On September 08 2013 18:26 Maeldun wrote: "With little exaggeration, it was the finest bo3 TvZ series we've seen in months."
Technically Scarlett vs Bomber was a Bo5, but that was also an amazing TvZ series (even tho Scarlett lost =\). How quickly we forget?
Scarlett was a beast in that matchup, but it doesn't deviate from the fact that it was an exciting matchup also because of the foreigner vs korean storyline, a factor which has always led to claims of 'best xvx series ever' in the past.
Innovation plays vs Z at a much higher level and at a high winrate even against people like Soulkey, and DRG still manages to take him on and beat him in his game. If you examine the amount and timings of runbys and how they are executed, as well as DRG's amazing game sense, you will know what I mean. GG WP indeed to the one true Dong.
I think the game on Whirlwind between Scarlett and Bomber was equal to that of DRG and Bomber, but the other games, though good, were definitely not as over-the-top spectacular as DRG vs Innovation.
On September 09 2013 09:27 igay wrote: That series that drg, innovation played was so so good
This series was quite overrated. Innovation's mine hits were terrible and his medivac harass was non-existent. He was slowly losing in all three games.
His placement of mines was as good as it always is, but there's only so much you can do to micro them, while DRG's anti-mine micro was spectacular. There also weren't really any good opportunities to drop, because DRG had amazing map vision, including putting overlords on the drop routes, and did an exceptional job of pulling his mutas back, away from Innovation's vision. This is a bigger deal than it sounds, because when you engage constantly with mutas, the terran player always has a rough estimation at least of where the flock is, but DRG was more conservative and did not give Innovation the luxury of that intel. DRG almost always had a threat of mutas being somewhere dangerous, because as far as Innovation knew, they could be anywhere. There simply weren't any safe routes, and he stopped trying to drop in the game on Derelict Watcher after two consecutive drops got scouted and sniped by mutas in areas where the zerg usually does not have map vision.
Plus, builds that are heavy on creep spread are also heavy on queens, so Innovation was wary of the possibility (and as it turned out, inevitability) of drops being shut down by multiple queens supported by static defense in each base.
On September 09 2013 09:27 igay wrote: That series that drg, innovation played was so so good
This series was quite overrated. Innovation's mine hits were terrible and his medivac harass was non-existent. He was slowly losing in all three games.
Doesn't matter, surviving innovation's never ending MMMM push is a prowess by itself.
Drops aren't a big part of Innovation's TvZ once he starts parade pushing with MMMM unless he knows he's well ahead and can spare units. Mine hits are barely his fault, a lot of luck goes into it though you can burrow/unburrow micro to avoid single zerglings. Innovation didn't deviate from his usual TvZ, and we all know how good that is.
i think the last time i watched a tvz with epicness like that was leenock vs mvp. there were a few mkp vs drg games i remember, but this bo3... cray cray dudes
On September 09 2013 14:30 bo1b wrote: Should have been a 2:0.
Ugh
maybe innovations right and mutalisks are op
Lol :D It's funny to see people failing to recognize that DRG isn't actually doing anything "new" in the match-up; ergo there is not going to be a shift of people being educated on how to play the match-up, so that they, too, can win. It's really just him being immaculate as a player.
On September 09 2013 14:30 bo1b wrote: Should have been a 2:0.
Ugh
maybe innovations right and mutalisks are op
Lol :D It's funny to see people failing to recognize that DRG isn't actually doing anything "new" in the match-up; ergo there is not going to be a shift of people being educated on how to play the match-up, so that they, too, can win. It's really just him being immaculate as a player.
On September 08 2013 18:26 Maeldun wrote: "With little exaggeration, it was the finest bo3 TvZ series we've seen in months."
Technically Scarlett vs Bomber was a Bo5, but that was also an amazing TvZ series (even tho Scarlett lost =\). How quickly we forget?
Hmmm we don't forget its just that Scarlett is a great Zerg...where as DRG, even if you were to forget his illustrious historic achievements, based on his play against INno alone was/is a Gweomul!!! A monster of the first kind!!!
Insane games...so super to be alive and watching these!! May his victory hold back the tide of complaints from the Zerg regarding the TvZ match up!
On September 09 2013 14:30 bo1b wrote: Should have been a 2:0.
Ugh
maybe innovations right and mutalisks are op
gtfo lol. The mutas didn't destroy innovation. He didn't secure his expansions several times. He also stacked mines / didn't get the burrow off several times. He saw ~20 mutas and built 2 turrets away from the SCVS. There were areas to improve innovation will no doubt improve. Also i hope people don't forget about the other series cuz they were pretty good too.
Note that Tasteless said when Innovation was attacking creep, that "It's the best anti creep play I've ever seen". I really exploded =D It was in game 2 I think if someone want to watch the vod, during the first anticreep push.
On September 09 2013 19:44 MrCon wrote: I uploaded it to youtube, virtualdub didn't want to edit my video format tho so I couldn't cut the video perfectly >< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QdX2e4dM7s
Was that where innovation killed 500 or so of drgs creep tumors?
EPT
I believe I have about 2 weeks left before I can remove this atrocity
