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On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him.
Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain)
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Awww, I was really hoping for Taeja at number 1, though I totally understand why he wasn't. His play in the WCS Grand Finals was just sublime. All in all, I find it hard to argue with the ranking this month
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On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him. Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain)
While I agree with you that I believe Taeja is above JD for now, I disagree with your reasoning. Taeja's mistakes against Jaedong is a mistake he should've made in the first place and I think he should be punished for it. Other than that, I agree that Taeja had a better month and performance.
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On September 07 2013 06:39 mechengineer123 wrote: Maru so overrated. I'm mostly a Terran fan but tbf Maru's standard play is worse than any top10 Terran. He was just much better prepared during OSL than his opponents, probably due to a coach or teammate. In a setting where you can't prepare that deeply and just have to play solid games he can lose to any shitty player (see WCS finals) So which of Scarlett and aLive are you saying is a shitty player? Out of curiosity.
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No special mention for DRG? Will he make it into the top 10 next one if he makes it to RO8?
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On September 12 2013 07:37 Aeceus wrote: No special mention for DRG? Will he make it into the top 10 next one if he makes it to RO8? I think this was made before DRG played innovation. I dont know if DRG should be in the top 10 but I refuse to believe JD is better than DRG though
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On September 12 2013 07:39 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 07:37 Aeceus wrote: No special mention for DRG? Will he make it into the top 10 next one if he makes it to RO8? I think this was made before DRG played innovation. I refuse to believe JD is better than DRG though
I kind of agree with you there. He is only better in ZvZ ? I guess
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On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him. Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain)
JD just beat taeja 2-0 in iem qualifiers, and beat him in sc2 league..
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On September 12 2013 07:40 partydude89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him. Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain) JD just beat taeja 2-0 in iem qualifiers, and beat him in sc2 league..
If only JD did it 11 days ago during the month in question (and despite those wins wouldnt have put him ahead of Taeja anyways).
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Looks like we hit a nosedive for Bomber!
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On September 12 2013 21:41 hansonslee wrote: Looks like we hit a nosedive for Bomber!
Its just bombers Law coming into affect.
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This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl. Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.
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On September 12 2013 07:54 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 07:40 partydude89 wrote:On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him. Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain) JD just beat taeja 2-0 in iem qualifiers, and beat him in sc2 league.. If only JD did it 11 days ago during the month in question (and despite those wins wouldnt have put him ahead of Taeja anyways).
Man if only Taeja could make back to back finals also.
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On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote: This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl. Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling. but maru's still in it yo
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On September 10 2013 17:46 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On September 06 2013 16:45 Elroi wrote:On September 06 2013 08:56 Lobotomist wrote: Jaedong weirded me out so hard this month. Crushed through JvP (is that even a thing we can say any more?) and then totally fell apart against terran. My zerg bias wants to write it off as terran op but 0-8 is...beyond imbalance. "JvP" was coined because Jaedong used to stomp every protoss player so badly that it felt like a different match up from the normal match up every one else played. The funny part is nowadays people use it with the complete opposite connotation. Kinda like JYPvT :s nobody loves JYP anymore
I do <3
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On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote: This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl. Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.
I'm with you man, It's starting to get to me too. I fear we'll never have a truly consistent player ever again, Innovation is the closest we've had to one in HotS and he's only won one tournament despite being so good.
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On September 13 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 07:54 rd wrote:On September 12 2013 07:40 partydude89 wrote:On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote: jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time" Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him. Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain) JD just beat taeja 2-0 in iem qualifiers, and beat him in sc2 league.. If only JD did it 11 days ago during the month in question (and despite those wins wouldnt have put him ahead of Taeja anyways). Man if only Taeja could make back to back finals also.
Yeah, if only Taeja could make back to back finals on the figurative back of a single match-up and then go 0-8.
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jaedong will forever have a weak matchup.
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On September 06 2013 21:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 16:45 Elroi wrote:On September 06 2013 08:56 Lobotomist wrote: Jaedong weirded me out so hard this month. Crushed through JvP (is that even a thing we can say any more?) and then totally fell apart against terran. My zerg bias wants to write it off as terran op but 0-8 is...beyond imbalance. "JvP" was coined because Jaedong used to stomp every protoss player so badly that it felt like a different match up from the normal match up every one else played. The funny part is nowadays people use it with the complete opposite connotation. Kinda like JYPvT :s I thought that that was the original conotation, i guess i was wrong
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On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote: This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl. Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.
I think its always going to be like this because of just a big combination of factors no one will ever be able to pin down exactly why.
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