EPTSC2 Power Rank - September 2013 - Page 15
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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rift
1819 Posts
On September 13 2013 11:53 snakeeyez wrote: I think its always going to be like this because of just a big combination of factors no one will ever be able to pin down exactly why. I can pin down one. There's less difference in skill between players. | ||
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
On September 13 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote: Man if only Taeja could make back to back finals also. Well, maybe Taeja was just unlucky to meet the best player in that particular tournament one round earlier... Still, everybody saying Taeja would destroy JD every time is just stupid, especially if you listened to their DH interviews where he stated they are like 50-50 in practice. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
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snakeeyez
United States1231 Posts
On September 13 2013 12:11 jax1492 wrote: I wait for the day flash is #1 in the power ranking Me too but it might be a very long wait. I think flash might be starting to see the volatility of this game compared to say other games he used to play where consistently winning is much harder to do. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On September 16 2013 10:56 lichter wrote: If SC2 is more volatile, does that make it harder (to win consistently) than BW? Discuss. Well very few players have been consistently at the top | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote: This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl. Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling. Yes. It was known as the OSL curse. There were no repeat winners of the OSL for about 8 or so years. The exceptions came very late in BWs lifespan. Often winners were eliminated in the group stage the following season. Here's the complete list (very interesting!): + Show Spoiler + Group = Ro16, except in 2006 where Group = Ro32, Elimination bracket started Ro8 except in 2006 where it started Ro16 Hanaro: Grrr... wins the first OSL final Freechal: Grrr... out third in group, GARIMTO wins final Hanbitsoft: GARIMTO out before Ro16, Boxer wins final Coca-Cola: Boxer wins final Sky 2001: Boxer loses final, GARIMTO wins Nate: GARIMTO out third in group, Sync wins Sky 2002: Sync out third in group, Reach wins Panasonic: Reach out last, Nada wins Olympus: Nada out last, Xellos wins MyCube: Xellos out last in group, Kingdom wins NHN: Kingdom out last in group, Nal_rA wins Gillette: Nal_rA out third in group, July wins Ever 2004: July out Ro8, Iloveoov wins IOPS: Iloveoov out last in group, Nada wins Ever 2005: Nada out 3rd in group, July wins So1: July eliminated Ro8, Anytime wins Shinhan 2005: Anytime out last in group, Iloveoov wins Shinhan 2006-1: Oov eliminated Ro16, Casy wins Shinhan 2006-2: Casy out last in group, Nada wins Shinhan 2006-3: Nada loses the final, Savior wins Daum: Savior loses Ro8, GGPlay wins Ever 2007: GGplay out last in group, Jaedong wins Bacchus 2007-8: Jaedong out Ro8, Flash wins Ever 2008: Flash loses Ro8, July wins Incruit: July out last in group, Stork wins Batoo: Stork out Ro8, Jaedong wins Bacchus 2009: Jaedong wins (first time since Boxer that we have a double champion) Ever 2009: Jaedong loses Ro8, Flash wins Korean Air 2010-1: Flash loses final, Effort wins Korean Air 2010-2: Effort out last in group, Flash wins final Bacchus 2010: Flash out third in group, Fantasy wins Jin Air: Fantasy loses final, Jangbi wins Tving: Jangbi wins the last OSL final | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On September 16 2013 11:28 Plexa wrote: Yes. It was known as the OSL curse. There were no repeat winners of the OSL for about 8 or so years. The exceptions came very late in BWs lifespan. Often winners were eliminated in the group stage the following season. Here's the complete list (very interesting!): + Show Spoiler + Group = Ro16, except in 2006 where Group = Ro32, Elimination bracket started Ro8 except in 2006 where it started Ro16 Hanaro: Grrr... wins the first OSL final Freechal: Grrr... out third in group, GARIMTO wins final Hanbitsoft: GARIMTO out before Ro16, Boxer wins final Coca-Cola: Boxer wins final Sky 2001: Boxer loses final, GARIMTO wins Nate: GARIMTO out third in group, Sync wins Sky 2002: Sync out third in group, Reach wins Panasonic: Reach out last, Nada wins Olympus: Nada out last, Xellos wins MyCube: Xellos out last in group, Kingdom wins NHN: Kingdom out last in group, Nal_rA wins Gillette: Nal_rA out third in group, July wins Ever 2004: July out Ro8, Iloveoov wins IOPS: Iloveoov out last in group, Nada wins Ever 2005: Nada out 3rd in group, July wins So1: July eliminated Ro8, Anytime wins Shinhan 2005: Anytime out last in group, Iloveoov wins Shinhan 2006-1: Oov eliminated Ro16, Casy wins Shinhan 2006-2: Casy out last in group, Nada wins Shinhan 2006-3: Nada loses the final, Savior wins Daum: Savior loses Ro8, GGPlay wins Ever 2007: GGplay out last in group, Jaedong wins Bacchus 2007-8: Jaedong out Ro8, Flash wins Ever 2008: Flash loses Ro8, July wins Incruit: July out last in group, Stork wins Batoo: Stork out Ro8, Jaedong wins Bacchus 2009: Jaedong wins (first time since Boxer that we have a double champion) Ever 2009: Jaedong loses Ro8, Flash wins Korean Air 2010-1: Flash loses final, Effort wins Korean Air 2010-2: Effort out last in group, Flash wins final Bacchus 2010: Flash out third in group, Fantasy wins Jin Air: Fantasy loses final, Jangbi wins Tving: Jangbi wins the last OSL final well then...lol | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
On September 16 2013 13:01 GumBa wrote: Me thinks Taeja number 1 next PR ? If the month ended now I would agree. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On September 16 2013 13:01 GumBa wrote: Me thinks Taeja number 1 next PR ? Still half of the month to go, he might get bopped in WCS AM, you never know :p | ||
Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR | ||
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braller
96 Posts
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote: Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing). As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR It's sort of silly to say "made it out of his group in one sided affairs, except for that one match" when there are only three matches in a group. | ||
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padiseal2
Austria721 Posts
On September 16 2013 14:30 braller wrote: It's sort of silly to say "made it out of his group in one sided affairs, except for that one match" when there are only three matches in a group. I think we can still agree that he is quite underrated in this month's PR. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote: Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing). As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR If nothing crazy happens till the end of the month there is no way Innovation will be #1 when he is 0-4 vs Taeja. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 16 2013 22:39 DifuntO wrote: If nothing crazy happens till the end of the month there is no way Innovation will be #1 when he is 0-4 vs Taeja. Head to head doesn't really matter. Innovation was 0-4 against Maru but was ranked first, three places ahead of Maru. If the month continues it's going to be close, because Innovation has alot of wins; nearly twice as much as Taeja, and against better opponents. | ||
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Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
On September 16 2013 23:35 rd wrote: Head to head doesn't really matter. Innovation was 0-4 against Maru but was ranked first, three places ahead of Maru. If the month continues it's going to be close, because Innovation has alot of wins; nearly twice as much as Taeja, and against better opponents. Yeah head to head doesn't matter. For a long period of time Federer was losing a lot to Nadal but was still overall the best player. I mean in something like 2008. | ||
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