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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
September 13 2013 03:11 GMT
#281
I wait for the day flash is #1 in the power ranking
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 15 2013 19:16 GMT
#282
On September 13 2013 11:53 snakeeyez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote:
This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl.
Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.


I think its always going to be like this because of just a big combination of factors no one will ever be able to pin down exactly why.

I can pin down one. There's less difference in skill between players.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
September 15 2013 19:30 GMT
#283
On September 13 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 07:54 rd wrote:
On September 12 2013 07:40 partydude89 wrote:
On September 12 2013 04:47 bourne117 wrote:
On September 09 2013 18:54 purgerinho wrote:
jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time"

Yeah but that was before the summer started and way before Taeja started looking like he does now. Taeja now looks on another level entirely. Plus both the games JD just won because Taeja didnt wall off the ramp from speedlings not exactly long macro games of JD outplaying him.

Also Taeja definitely deserves to be higher than JD. His only losses were Bomber and Polt (both crushed JD) and he barely lost to both 2-3. He also beat Polt earlier in WCS 2-1. He beat Innovation, duckdeok, and Rain. He basically beat the best player from Europe and America and two of the consensus best players in Korea. (and side note overcame his historically horrible performances against Rain)


JD just beat taeja 2-0 in iem qualifiers, and beat him in sc2 league..


If only JD did it 11 days ago during the month in question (and despite those wins wouldnt have put him ahead of Taeja anyways).


Man if only Taeja could make back to back finals also.


Well, maybe Taeja was just unlucky to meet the best player in that particular tournament one round earlier...

Still, everybody saying Taeja would destroy JD every time is just stupid, especially if you listened to their DH interviews where he stated they are like 50-50 in practice.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
September 16 2013 01:02 GMT
#284
Taeja best player in the world. The bracket he went through in DH might have been sicker than Bomber's WCS run.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 16 2013 01:39 GMT
#285
On September 13 2013 12:11 jax1492 wrote:
I wait for the day flash is #1 in the power ranking


Me too but it might be a very long wait. I think flash might be starting to see the volatility of this game compared to say other games he used to play where consistently winning is much harder to do.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#286
If SC2 is more volatile, does that make it harder (to win consistently) than BW? Discuss.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 16 2013 01:58 GMT
#287
On September 16 2013 10:56 lichter wrote:
If SC2 is more volatile, does that make it harder (to win consistently) than BW? Discuss.

Well very few players have been consistently at the top
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 02:33:19
September 16 2013 02:28 GMT
#288
On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote:
This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl.
Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.

Yes. It was known as the OSL curse. There were no repeat winners of the OSL for about 8 or so years. The exceptions came very late in BWs lifespan. Often winners were eliminated in the group stage the following season. Here's the complete list (very interesting!):
+ Show Spoiler +
Group = Ro16, except in 2006 where Group = Ro32, Elimination bracket started Ro8 except in 2006 where it started Ro16

Hanaro: Grrr... wins the first OSL final
Freechal: Grrr... out third in group, GARIMTO wins final

Hanbitsoft: GARIMTO out before Ro16, Boxer wins final
Coca-Cola: Boxer wins final
Sky 2001: Boxer loses final, GARIMTO wins

Nate: GARIMTO out third in group, Sync wins
Sky 2002: Sync out third in group, Reach wins
Panasonic: Reach out last, Nada wins

Olympus: Nada out last, Xellos wins
MyCube: Xellos out last in group, Kingdom wins
NHN: Kingdom out last in group, Nal_rA wins

Gillette: Nal_rA out third in group, July wins
Ever 2004: July out Ro8, Iloveoov wins
IOPS: Iloveoov out last in group, Nada wins

Ever 2005: Nada out 3rd in group, July wins
So1: July eliminated Ro8, Anytime wins
Shinhan 2005: Anytime out last in group, Iloveoov wins

Shinhan 2006-1: Oov eliminated Ro16, Casy wins
Shinhan 2006-2: Casy out last in group, Nada wins
Shinhan 2006-3: Nada loses the final, Savior wins

Daum: Savior loses Ro8, GGPlay wins
Ever 2007: GGplay out last in group, Jaedong wins
Bacchus 2007-8: Jaedong out Ro8, Flash wins

Ever 2008: Flash loses Ro8, July wins
Incruit: July out last in group, Stork wins
Batoo: Stork out Ro8, Jaedong wins

Bacchus 2009: Jaedong wins (first time since Boxer that we have a double champion)
Ever 2009: Jaedong loses Ro8, Flash wins

Korean Air 2010-1: Flash loses final, Effort wins
Korean Air 2010-2: Effort out last in group, Flash wins final
Bacchus 2010: Flash out third in group, Fantasy wins

Jin Air: Fantasy loses final, Jangbi wins

Tving: Jangbi wins the last OSL final
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 16 2013 02:43 GMT
#289
On September 16 2013 11:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 09:14 samuraibael wrote:
This absurd volatility is really killing my interest in sc2. Did an osl winner in bw ever get eliminated in the first round of the next one? Maybe july after beating best? But then it was a miracle that he won that osl.
Without stability it feels like watching professional dice rolling.

Yes. It was known as the OSL curse. There were no repeat winners of the OSL for about 8 or so years. The exceptions came very late in BWs lifespan. Often winners were eliminated in the group stage the following season. Here's the complete list (very interesting!):
+ Show Spoiler +
Group = Ro16, except in 2006 where Group = Ro32, Elimination bracket started Ro8 except in 2006 where it started Ro16

Hanaro: Grrr... wins the first OSL final
Freechal: Grrr... out third in group, GARIMTO wins final

Hanbitsoft: GARIMTO out before Ro16, Boxer wins final
Coca-Cola: Boxer wins final
Sky 2001: Boxer loses final, GARIMTO wins

Nate: GARIMTO out third in group, Sync wins
Sky 2002: Sync out third in group, Reach wins
Panasonic: Reach out last, Nada wins

Olympus: Nada out last, Xellos wins
MyCube: Xellos out last in group, Kingdom wins
NHN: Kingdom out last in group, Nal_rA wins

Gillette: Nal_rA out third in group, July wins
Ever 2004: July out Ro8, Iloveoov wins
IOPS: Iloveoov out last in group, Nada wins

Ever 2005: Nada out 3rd in group, July wins
So1: July eliminated Ro8, Anytime wins
Shinhan 2005: Anytime out last in group, Iloveoov wins

Shinhan 2006-1: Oov eliminated Ro16, Casy wins
Shinhan 2006-2: Casy out last in group, Nada wins
Shinhan 2006-3: Nada loses the final, Savior wins

Daum: Savior loses Ro8, GGPlay wins
Ever 2007: GGplay out last in group, Jaedong wins
Bacchus 2007-8: Jaedong out Ro8, Flash wins

Ever 2008: Flash loses Ro8, July wins
Incruit: July out last in group, Stork wins
Batoo: Stork out Ro8, Jaedong wins

Bacchus 2009: Jaedong wins (first time since Boxer that we have a double champion)
Ever 2009: Jaedong loses Ro8, Flash wins

Korean Air 2010-1: Flash loses final, Effort wins
Korean Air 2010-2: Effort out last in group, Flash wins final
Bacchus 2010: Flash out third in group, Fantasy wins

Jin Air: Fantasy loses final, Jangbi wins

Tving: Jangbi wins the last OSL final

well then...lol
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 16 2013 04:01 GMT
#290
Me thinks Taeja number 1 next PR ?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
September 16 2013 04:04 GMT
#291
On September 16 2013 13:01 GumBa wrote:
Me thinks Taeja number 1 next PR ?


If the month ended now I would agree.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 16 2013 04:13 GMT
#292
On September 16 2013 13:01 GumBa wrote:
Me thinks Taeja number 1 next PR ?


Still half of the month to go, he might get bopped in WCS AM, you never know :p
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
September 16 2013 05:10 GMT
#293
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR
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braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
September 16 2013 05:30 GMT
#294
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote:
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR


It's sort of silly to say "made it out of his group in one sided affairs, except for that one match" when there are only three matches in a group.
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
September 16 2013 13:30 GMT
#295
On September 16 2013 14:30 braller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote:
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR


It's sort of silly to say "made it out of his group in one sided affairs, except for that one match" when there are only three matches in a group.

I think we can still agree that he is quite underrated in this month's PR.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
September 16 2013 13:34 GMT
#296
it's your standard tournament results rank thread
rip prime
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
September 16 2013 13:39 GMT
#297
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote:
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR


If nothing crazy happens till the end of the month there is no way Innovation will be #1 when he is 0-4 vs Taeja.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 14:10:21
September 16 2013 14:10 GMT
#298
Taeja basically has October's rank 1 spot locked up provided he wins his WCS AM group, which is likely as he drew a grand total of 0 Koreans. No one can dispute how dominant he was at DH.
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rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
September 16 2013 14:35 GMT
#299
On September 16 2013 22:39 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote:
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR


If nothing crazy happens till the end of the month there is no way Innovation will be #1 when he is 0-4 vs Taeja.


Head to head doesn't really matter. Innovation was 0-4 against Maru but was ranked first, three places ahead of Maru. If the month continues it's going to be close, because Innovation has alot of wins; nearly twice as much as Taeja, and against better opponents.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
September 16 2013 15:00 GMT
#300
On September 16 2013 23:35 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 22:39 DifuntO wrote:
On September 16 2013 14:10 Jer99 wrote:
Don't forget that although innovation lost to taeja in these finals, he is still top 2 in DH and is 5-0 in GSTL including an all kill, + he made it out of his group in the Ro32 in WCS KR in one sided afairs (aside from the DRG thing).

As much as I love Taeja and want to see him #1 every month, I think it's too close to call who would be #1 at the next power ranks and we definetily need to see how the rest of the month plays out, but no question in my mind that they are #1 and #2 at this time for the next PR


If nothing crazy happens till the end of the month there is no way Innovation will be #1 when he is 0-4 vs Taeja.


Head to head doesn't really matter. Innovation was 0-4 against Maru but was ranked first, three places ahead of Maru. If the month continues it's going to be close, because Innovation has alot of wins; nearly twice as much as Taeja, and against better opponents.

Yeah head to head doesn't matter. For a long period of time Federer was losing a lot to Nadal but was still overall the best player. I mean in something like 2008.
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