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On September 06 2013 17:13 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote:
This PR is pretty reasonable. Maybe you could have mentioned Flash, as he is still top5 terran in the world.
There is absolutely nothing to complain in regards to Innovation's placement. I'd actually not have been surprised if the author didn't place him top 10 overall.
Innovation was overhyped the last months and last month he looked like any other mediocre korean terran, maybe except that fantastic vs. Taeja game (best game of the year imo).
Foreigners' situation is sad. Naniwa in a slump (out of WCS already!), Scarlett not having the spirit (taking a "break") and Stephano retiring (after too many losses?). Even TLO is in a slump and out of WCS already.
Koreans are now miles and miles away and have finally achieved complete dominance over the world, like in Broodwar days.
So this PR will most likely never ever again see a foreigner in top 10.
But it will be tense to watch Jaedong and Flash on their further way. Will be nice to see *if* they can turn on that final switch that once turned them from really good players to giants. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
Haha, yeah nice and ignorant  . Hope to see you back soon Scarlett!
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On September 06 2013 16:45 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 08:56 Lobotomist wrote:
Jaedong weirded me out so hard this month. Crushed through JvP (is that even a thing we can say any more?) and then totally fell apart against terran. My zerg bias wants to write it off as terran op but 0-8 is...beyond imbalance. "JvP" was coined because Jaedong used to stomp every protoss player so badly that it felt like a different match up from the normal match up every one else played.
The funny part is nowadays people use it with the complete opposite connotation.
Kinda like JYPvT :s
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On September 06 2013 16:54 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 06:58 Assirra wrote:On September 06 2013 05:45 FakePseudo wrote:On September 06 2013 05:40 Caladan wrote:On September 06 2013 02:33 Grumbels wrote:
I guess the new purpose of the power rank is to put recent results into context and to provide more narrative/story to the scene? (this would be why the only people that are in the power rank are the ones that did well at recent tournaments) This is a bit different from a power rank that's supposed to highlight the best players though. Because when TL did power ranks for SC2 tournaments it was more about the strongest players going into the tournament. ? Power Ranks have always been about results and beauty of play. Since the BW days. He's talking about the MLG PR we had a while ago and other Sc2 PRs we sometimes had for some events. But in a way, BW PRs used to be more stable, on the one hand BW scene was a bit less volatile but I feel there's also some kind of editorial choices that have been made recently that impacts the stability and overall meaning of the PRs we get now. It's cause there is simply waaay more tournaments going on compared to BW PR. You had proleague rankings mostly with once a while some OSL in the mix. Now we got 3 "OSL/Code S" tournaments going on at the same time followed by a final, we got 2 teamleagues and a crapload of weekend tournaments. That's not the important difference. In BW the most powerful player won much more frequently against weaker opponents. (Like e.g. JD and Flash facing each other in 4 straight finals or the reign of the bonjwas...) in sc2 anyone in top 20 can win a tournament.
Eh you'll actually be surprised. I guarantee flash and jaedong wouldn't have won as many tournaments if they played in as many tournaments + traveled as much as now (well I guess jaedong, flash hasn't traveled to much yet). I feel like people don't realize how much that actually affects players especially the more they do in a short amount of time.
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Given how heavily you guys tend to weight the most recent tournaments I'm surprised Innovation even made it to the list at all.
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I think there's an elephant in the room.
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On September 07 2013 03:21 1handsomE wrote:
I think there's an elephant in the room.
Because there are a whopping 4 elephants in the top ten? Or what did you mean, I'm puzzled?
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On September 06 2013 17:13 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote:
This PR is pretty reasonable. Maybe you could have mentioned Flash, as he is still top5 terran in the world.
There is absolutely nothing to complain in regards to Innovation's placement. I'd actually not have been surprised if the author didn't place him top 10 overall.
Innovation was overhyped the last months and last month he looked like any other mediocre korean terran, maybe except that fantastic vs. Taeja game (best game of the year imo).
Foreigners' situation is sad. Naniwa in a slump (out of WCS already!), Scarlett not having the spirit (taking a "break") and Stephano retiring (after too many losses?). Even TLO is in a slump and out of WCS already.
Koreans are now miles and miles away and have finally achieved complete dominance over the world, like in Broodwar days.
So this PR will most likely never ever again see a foreigner in top 10.
But it will be tense to watch Jaedong and Flash on their further way. Will be nice to see *if* they can turn on that final switch that once turned them from really good players to giants. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
That whoever wrote it is stupid as shit and doesn't understand that wrists that hurts need rest.
I hope you have a speedy recovery and returns stronger than ever.
Fighting!!!
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Maru so overrated. I'm mostly a Terran fan but tbf Maru's standard play is worse than any top10 Terran. He was just much better prepared during OSL than his opponents, probably due to a coach or teammate. In a setting where you can't prepare that deeply and just have to play solid games he can lose to any shitty player (see WCS finals)
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Im not sure innovation really deserves to slide that far down what did some of the people above him like maru really do so much better to stay higher? I think flash should get on the chart just because hes flash maybe add an eleventh spot and just always give it to him
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DRG is going to be up here next time around! <3
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On September 06 2013 21:38 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 16:54 Elroi wrote:On September 06 2013 06:58 Assirra wrote:On September 06 2013 05:45 FakePseudo wrote:On September 06 2013 05:40 Caladan wrote:On September 06 2013 02:33 Grumbels wrote:
I guess the new purpose of the power rank is to put recent results into context and to provide more narrative/story to the scene? (this would be why the only people that are in the power rank are the ones that did well at recent tournaments) This is a bit different from a power rank that's supposed to highlight the best players though. Because when TL did power ranks for SC2 tournaments it was more about the strongest players going into the tournament. ? Power Ranks have always been about results and beauty of play. Since the BW days. He's talking about the MLG PR we had a while ago and other Sc2 PRs we sometimes had for some events. But in a way, BW PRs used to be more stable, on the one hand BW scene was a bit less volatile but I feel there's also some kind of editorial choices that have been made recently that impacts the stability and overall meaning of the PRs we get now. It's cause there is simply waaay more tournaments going on compared to BW PR. You had proleague rankings mostly with once a while some OSL in the mix. Now we got 3 "OSL/Code S" tournaments going on at the same time followed by a final, we got 2 teamleagues and a crapload of weekend tournaments. That's not the important difference. In BW the most powerful player won much more frequently against weaker opponents. (Like e.g. JD and Flash facing each other in 4 straight finals or the reign of the bonjwas...) in sc2 anyone in top 20 can win a tournament. Eh you'll actually be surprised. I guarantee flash and jaedong wouldn't have won as many tournaments if they played in as many tournaments + traveled as much as now (well I guess jaedong, flash hasn't traveled to much yet). I feel like people don't realize how much that actually affects players especially the more they do in a short amount of time.
And i want to add on that, in old BW times, all the training, strategies, replay is strictly kept in team. And the ladder practice is far less effective than SCII. So basically, it's much harder for low level players to match the top-tier.
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taeja showed us how strong he was.
2-3 Polt
2-3 Bomber
He just got a bad luck. Unlike JD. JD was really bad vs Terran last season
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DRG is back, all this became totally irrelevant.
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jaedong - taeja 2:0 - nuff said! i hope people will stop with "taeja would destroy JD every time - all the time"
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Great rank! imo jaedong outranks maru tho
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On September 06 2013 21:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 16:45 Elroi wrote:On September 06 2013 08:56 Lobotomist wrote:
Jaedong weirded me out so hard this month. Crushed through JvP (is that even a thing we can say any more?) and then totally fell apart against terran. My zerg bias wants to write it off as terran op but 0-8 is...beyond imbalance. "JvP" was coined because Jaedong used to stomp every protoss player so badly that it felt like a different match up from the normal match up every one else played. The funny part is nowadays people use it with the complete opposite connotation. Kinda like JYPvT :s
nobody loves JYP anymore
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How can Jaedong not be #2 doh
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polt n bomber!!! yayyyy my fave 2 players!
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EPT
