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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:28 Jer99 wrote: I disagree. If they had met in either finals, Taeja would have crushed JD Taeja would have crushed JD in any tournament, any round. Partially Terran op, partially jd kinda terrible in z vt. Frankly, JD got lucky in those tournaments by avoiding strong T, which by the way there's a lot. I doubt he could make out of Scarlett's group. | ||
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Mocking
Brazil52 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:28 Jer99 wrote: I disagree. If they had met in either finals, Taeja would have crushed JD I don't think this rank is about who beat who, but who have done better this month... And JD has done better than Taeja in my opinion. | ||
Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:35 Mocking wrote: I don't think this rank is about who beat who, but who have done better this month... And JD has done better than Taeja in my opinion. In terms of placings, Jaedong definitely did better then taeja, but Taeja did much better vs those opponents (3-2 loss to bomber and polt compared to jaedongs 4-0 losses) | ||
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IAmHaunteR
United States36 Posts
On September 05 2013 10:06 lichter wrote: I have no complaints about this Power Rank. He got to Finals twice. WCS AM and WCS World. | ||
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Mocking
Brazil52 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:41 Jer99 wrote: In terms of placings, Jaedong definitely did better then taeja, but Taeja did much better vs those opponents (3-2 loss to bomber and polt compared to jaedongs 4-0 losses) Still, JD have done better in this month. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8160 Posts
That's the last point I have | ||
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FatCat_13
Russian Federation117 Posts
Seriously, with the results like these it looked like "okay we've got these 8 players let's randompick 'em into our chart". Tbh, even Bomber's place on top is a bit shaky with his close series with Scarlett. If it'd be me highlighting a person that'd be definitely Scarlett with her very impressive play. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:05 Zealously wrote: Well, Polt at least managed to beat Naniwa so I guess I'd bet on him to win =D Stop being so biased yo, Naniwa told us to stop. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:23 RiSkysc2 wrote: Jaedong > Taeja. A little TL bias going on? No, I agree with the Power Rank. Taeja has been really hot. Taeja has played more games (45-20), has won way more games, and has beaten more top opponents -- granted, most of their major wins were vs protoss, but Taeja has beaten top Protoss convincingly in a match-up that Terrans have struggled in recently. The wins however just weren't at the right juncture of a tournament. All Jaedong has over Taeja are the second place finishes where the 0-4's really hurt him. Taeja lost to the same opponents, but went the distance narrowly losing both 2-3. Maru on the other hand, I would have definitely put Jaedong ahead of. | ||
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On September 06 2013 00:49 Mocking wrote: Wow, I can't agree a lot . My god, why soulkey is there? Why Parting is there? Scarlett have done way better than both of them in this month, even Naniwa i would agree more than both of them. Bomber first i agree. Taeja 2nd? Why he is there? yeah he show to us amazing games, but he didn't accomplished nothing. JD I would put him perhaps a little better, but is fine. Maru have won WCS korea, but in WCS finals he get crushed, so #3 is ok. And duckdeock deserve more than Parting the #10 but not that much... Please, Pleaaaase get some knowledge of the scene, its (very recent) history (by that I mainly mean players' records and run in tournaments, nothing else) and how seeding is working for the WCS system before saying utter bullshit like this. | ||
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Mocking
Brazil52 Posts
On September 06 2013 02:06 Jer99 wrote: You aren't taking into account the difficulty of opponents, taeja had much harder players to face IMO which is why he is above JD and I think overall played a lot better too. That's the last point I have Difficulty? Well as i well remember JD have beaten all the top protoss in the world, Naniwa, First, Rain, opponents who could have beaten any player that taeja have take out. | ||
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Mocking
Brazil52 Posts
On September 06 2013 03:06 FakePseudo wrote: Please, Pleaaaase get some knowledge of the scene, its (very recent) history (by that I mainly mean players' records and run in tournaments, nothing else) and how seeding is working for the WCS system before saying utter bullshit like this. I have only said that because he was saying soulkey ZvT is better tha scarlett, but i can't agree if that, Scarlett prove that she is one of the strongest players to take the title of the best ZvT in the world as Soulkey can have that title too. And this rank is avaliating the best performances of the month. Are you going to say to me that Soulkey had a better performance than scarlett this month? A lot of players would say no. I'm not saying that scarlett or naniwa are better than soulkey, he did won the hardest tournament in the world, but as I have said before, not this month. | ||
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On September 06 2013 05:00 Mocking wrote: I have only said that because he was saying soulkey ZvT is better tha scarlett, but i can't agree if that, Scarlett prove that she is one of the strongest players to take the title of the best ZvT in the world as Soulkey can have that title too. And this rank is avaliating the best performances of the month. Are you going to say to me that Soulkey had a better performance than scarlett this month? A lot of players would say no. I'm not saying that scarlett or naniwa are better than soulkey, he did won the hardest tournament in the world, but as I have said before, not this month. This month, Soulkey didn't lose a serie to anybody else than innovation an a supernova probably at its hottest in a while. That's it. Period. This guy is a rock and has had the most consistent good results on HoTS. And please, if you didn't already, get some knowledge about the current state of TvZ and particularly Innovation v Z. Your comment on innovation 3-0ing soulkey (in close fought fashion imho) was nothing but stupid doucheyness. | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On September 06 2013 02:33 Grumbels wrote: I guess the new purpose of the power rank is to put recent results into context and to provide more narrative/story to the scene? (this would be why the only people that are in the power rank are the ones that did well at recent tournaments) This is a bit different from a power rank that's supposed to highlight the best players though. Because when TL did power ranks for SC2 tournaments it was more about the strongest players going into the tournament. ? Power Ranks have always been about results and beauty of play. Since the BW days. | ||
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On September 06 2013 05:40 Caladan wrote: ? Power Ranks have always been about results and beauty of play. Since the BW days. He's talking about the MLG PR we had a while ago and other Sc2 PRs we sometimes had for some events. But in a way, BW PRs used to be more stable, on the one hand BW scene was a bit less volatile but I feel there's also some kind of editorial choices that have been made recently that impacts the stability and overall meaning of the PRs we get now. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
maybe he would win against jd but he would not win against players JD crushed... i really hope that taeja is not at no2 just because he is from liquid.. but again, i can't see another reason why he is where he is.. his performance is not no2, not even in a dream.. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On September 06 2013 06:13 purgerinho wrote: taeja at no2? funny... maybe he would win against jd but he would not win against players JD crushed... i really hope that taeja is not at no2 just because he is from liquid.. but again, i can't see another reason why he is where he is.. his performance is not no2, not even in a dream.. Taeja beat Rain, who also lost to JD Do you really think Taeja isn't able to beat Naniwa, First, MC or Jim and Scarlett? He'd be favorite against all of them | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
it was a great post.. scarlett won against top korean terrans in august.. if she was korean she would be in top10, that is not in question.. PR shoould have some points system.. points for tournament placements, points for streaks, points for wins etc. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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