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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
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forumtext
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On August 31 2013 13:23 negativedge wrote: if you show a build in a televised match, it can already be "mecilessly dissected with the click of a button." this just makes it easier. the real benefit is to people who aren't in team houses, ie. almost everyone who plays the game. Yes this is great news for all the fans out there, but bad news for the pros. It would be interesting to see what the pros really have to say about this. edit: It seems that the Chinese fans too are having mixed feeling about the mass release of replays. | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
On August 31 2013 13:40 LOcDowN wrote: Revealing replays to the public only enhances the competition and make everything better all-around within the competitive spirit that drives e-sport. I'm in full support of it! That's exactly right. With more access to replays more players can study and get better, which causes the over skill level to go up, which makes what the people at the top are doing much more impressive. Increasing the skill level makes a SC2 match more of a show. | ||
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Becuula
Germany65 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 31 2013 13:46 Snijjer wrote: That's exactly right. With more access to replays more players can study and get better, which causes the over skill level to go up, which makes what the people at the top are doing much more impressive. Increasing the skill level makes a SC2 match more of a show. The bane of replays is the game revolutionizes much quicker. In other words, players catch up quicker. BW was much better without them. Sorry, but it's true. People could still study the VODs and what have you but there were a number of things we could keep hush, hush and the creativity of the players shined through. If you want to slow things down and give the great players the spotlight longer you would second guess the whole replay resolve. | ||
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izmatic
United States104 Posts
On August 31 2013 09:05 negativedge wrote: that was practice. the NFL itself records every game from the All-22 angles and makes all of those tapes available to every team. they have done this for decades. starting two years ago, that film was made available to fans as well (if you pay for it). I can look at any play from any game played last year from either broadcast angles or coaches angles. if you run it in a game, it is available for literally every one to look at to prepare for you and to get better. this is a great thing for pros, not a bad thing. the spygate scandal was actually for video taping a defensive coordinators hand signals during the first half of a game from the sideline then analyzing them at halftime. And yeah game film has been made available to coaches for a long time now | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
We're considering releasing replays shortly after each match is played, but we're still discussing this both internally and with the players this would impact. In the meantime, you should keep an eye on the portal for the latest information. | ||
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Schism
Australia85 Posts
Someone can watch Flash replays until they're blue in the face, but they won't ever be a threat to him unless they can attain his APM, game sense, decision making, timing, it goes on and on. It might make the viewer 10 or 20% better in the long run though. That is a good thing. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On August 31 2013 15:15 Schism wrote: Complaining about the replay release is sheer elitism. People want e-sports to be taken seriously like other sports? In any other sport, on game day you are open to the highest level of scrutiny and analysis Someone can watch Flash replays until they're blue in the face, but they won't ever be a threat to him unless they can attain his APM, game sense, decision making, timing, it goes on and on. It might make the viewer 10 or 20% better in the long run though. That is a good thing. This. I don't see why people are complaining so much about it. Builds are meant to be stolen, dissected and broken down. That way we can see the people who are truly creative, and innovative shine through. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Currently any EU/AM player has the replays of their opponent. People in teams have a distinct advantage over those not, because they can share replays, and the probably will be able to talk to other teams as well. The main impact is on the Korea scene where replays would not really be available due to the fact it's all offline. But then in Korea there is a lot of ladder and cross team practice. Basically all these builds or replays are out there already being analysed and used, but currently it's only by some players, rather than all. This just evens up the playing field for those not on a large team/with lots of contacts. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
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forumtext
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
Good move. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On August 31 2013 13:43 forumtext wrote: Yes this is great news for all the fans out there, but bad news for the pros. It would be interesting to see what the pros really have to say about this. edit: It seems that the Chinese fans too are having mixed feeling about the mass release of replays. It's not really bad news for the pros, it will make them work harder and potentially not be so relaxed about their play styles (certain terrans ALWAYS going for 4M, certain protoss ALWAYS going for 3 base deathballs etc) It will improve the meta game evolution and ultimately provide better games. #BigPicture | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
On August 31 2013 06:08 Greendotz wrote: This is pretty damn cool actually. Really good to see Blizzard more willing to work with third parties +1 Now, does this take away MLG's reason to refuse to release replays because they contain "information that allows you to DDOS players"? Because honestly, I thought that was bullshit from day 1. This means Blizzard either fixed that, or nobody gives enough of a shit because they got the replays from OSL and GSL! I don't think they were ever required to forcefully send replays to Blizzard so Blizzard could eventually backstab them by releasing their precious replays to the world. I'm pretty sure KeSpa and eSF are cool with this. | ||
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