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On August 01 2013 01:40 synd wrote:
Now name 10 female pro gamers. -Nope, you can't.
I really wonder who will be in this league but also this could be a start point for female pro gamers to go big and perform way more often in major 'male' tournaments. Since there isn't really a gender restriction, they could participate everywhere.
BabyToss, DaSakura, Flo, Aphrodite, MiSs, Eve (she could come out of retirement after hearing about this), Luway, Tilea, Livibee, LivinPink.
That's 10 off the top of my head. If I actually did some research I could find more.
Plus there have to be women gamers who will be inspired by this to try harder and compete on TV.
lol, I even forgot to mention Scarlett at first... There are quite a few more too.
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On August 01 2013 02:26 DinoMight wrote:
Just like video games are more popular in Korea than Europe or NA. As a result you find the average Korean and male are better than the average non-Korean and female.
But, Star2 sold more in the West than in Korea.
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On August 01 2013 09:21 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 01:40 synd wrote:
Now name 10 female pro gamers. -Nope, you can't.
I really wonder who will be in this league but also this could be a start point for female pro gamers to go big and perform way more often in major 'male' tournaments. Since there isn't really a gender restriction, they could participate everywhere. BabyToss, DaSakura, Flo, Aphrodite, MiSs, Eve (she could come out of retirement after hearing about this), Luway, Tilea, Livibee, LivinPink. That's 10 off the top of my head. If I actually did some research I could find more. Plus there have to be women gamers who will be inspired by this to try harder and compete on TV. lol, I even forgot to mention Scarlett at first... There are quite a few more too.
It has to be women living in Korea.. so there's only 3 girls in pro team (Aphrodite, Barbie prime and maybe Scarlett?)
rest all amateurs... :O
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Pretty cool. I would've loved to cast this but I'm looking forward to the official cast nonetheless!
Obviously I'm most looking forward to seeing korean masters (even if they're low-mid), but seeing any solid effort will still be nice to see who might be up and coming. :D
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Northern Ireland27265 Posts
It's a nice step away from the blatant tokenism of the Korean girls that have been on teams thus far for the most part.
Is Aphrodite still the pick of the bunch?
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On July 31 2013 19:52 Porishan wrote:
will they be streamed ? :O
A) This is good! yay for return of the women's league. January 2.0 inc?
B) stream?
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 01 2013 04:51 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 04:12 Incomplet wrote:Poll: Would you date Scarlett?No (57) 52% Yes (37) 34% If you have time (16) 15% 110 total votes Your vote: Would you date Scarlett? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
User was warned for this post Poll: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth?Yes (109) 63% No (53) 30% Maybe (12) 7% 174 total votes Your vote: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Maybe
lol wax you are awesome
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Northern Ireland27265 Posts
I feel Incomplet's question was the wrong way around (the answer is 'yes' btw)
I mean, why should Scarlett want to date many of the scrubs on TL who have much inferior Starcrafting abilities?
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On August 01 2013 09:45 Caffeine0212 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 09:21 Shinta) wrote:On August 01 2013 01:40 synd wrote:
Now name 10 female pro gamers. -Nope, you can't.
I really wonder who will be in this league but also this could be a start point for female pro gamers to go big and perform way more often in major 'male' tournaments. Since there isn't really a gender restriction, they could participate everywhere. BabyToss, DaSakura, Flo, Aphrodite, MiSs, Eve (she could come out of retirement after hearing about this), Luway, Tilea, Livibee, LivinPink. That's 10 off the top of my head. If I actually did some research I could find more. Plus there have to be women gamers who will be inspired by this to try harder and compete on TV. lol, I even forgot to mention Scarlett at first... There are quite a few more too. It has to be women living in Korea.. so there's only 3 girls in pro team (Aphrodite, Barbie prime and maybe Scarlett?) rest all amateurs... :O
MiSs is on StarTale, so that's at least 4.
But yeah, to be fair they're the only ones I know off the top of my head as well.
Did a look at Liquipedia and there are a few in the rest of the asian area. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Female_SC2_Scene#Asia
Still, hopefully such an event will encourage more women to give it a shot in korea.
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On August 01 2013 09:21 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 01:40 synd wrote:
Now name 10 female pro gamers. -Nope, you can't.
I really wonder who will be in this league but also this could be a start point for female pro gamers to go big and perform way more often in major 'male' tournaments. Since there isn't really a gender restriction, they could participate everywhere. BabyToss, DaSakura, Flo, Aphrodite, MiSs, Eve (she could come out of retirement after hearing about this), Luway, Tilea, Livibee, LivinPink. That's 10 off the top of my head. If I actually did some research I could find more. Plus there have to be women gamers who will be inspired by this to try harder and compete on TV. lol, I even forgot to mention Scarlett at first... There are quite a few more too.
Shouldn't you be asking if a tournament only announced in Korean spheres on a Korean-only streaming service would allow foreigners to compete?
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On August 01 2013 05:50 renaissanceMAN wrote:rofl also afreecatv? are companies running out of decent names?
Its Afreeca.TV not "A Free Cat".
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On August 01 2013 10:30 Iodem wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 09:21 Shinta) wrote:On August 01 2013 01:40 synd wrote:
Now name 10 female pro gamers. -Nope, you can't.
I really wonder who will be in this league but also this could be a start point for female pro gamers to go big and perform way more often in major 'male' tournaments. Since there isn't really a gender restriction, they could participate everywhere. BabyToss, DaSakura, Flo, Aphrodite, MiSs, Eve (she could come out of retirement after hearing about this), Luway, Tilea, Livibee, LivinPink. That's 10 off the top of my head. If I actually did some research I could find more. Plus there have to be women gamers who will be inspired by this to try harder and compete on TV. lol, I even forgot to mention Scarlett at first... There are quite a few more too. Shouldn't you be asking if a tournament only announced in Korean spheres on a Korean-only streaming service would allow foreigners to compete?
Nope, that wouldn't be a good question at all imo. Quite self-explanatory actually...
Also details are not given at all yet. The question was "can you name 10 female pro gamers". That's an easy task...
Whether they make this league Korean only or not, offline only or not, etc isn't released yet.
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지난 2006년 이후 국내에서 맥이 끊겼던 여성부 스타리그가 부활한다. 스타테일TV서 새롭게 출발한 ESTV가 '스타크래프트 II: 군단의 심장'으로 여성부 스타리그(Woman StarCraft® II League, 이하 WSL)’ 계획을 발표했다.
ESTV의 법인회사 에스게이트(SGATE)는 오는 8월 9일부터 한 달간의 일정으로 2013 아프리카TV WSL 개최한다고 밝혔다. 아프리카TV가 타이틀스폰서로 나선 이번 대회는 ESTV가 주최와 주관을 맡았고 블리자드 엔터테인먼트와 이스포츠연맹이 후원한다.
ESTV는 WSL을 정규적으로 편성해서 2013년 하반기와 2014년 개최할 예정이다. 개막일은 오는 8월 9일(금)로 예정되어 있으며 차주부터 매주 토요일과 일요일 저녁에 진행될 계획이다.
참가신청은 30일 저녁 9시부터 내달 5일까지 접수받으며 대진은 6일 공개될 예정이다. 참가를 희망하는 사람은 startale01@gmail.com 으로 ▲이름 ▲배틀넷 아이디 ▲배틀넷 계정 ▲ 종족 ▲ 연락처 를 기재해서 보내면 된다.
Translation:
The domestic female starleague, which post-2006 had been discontinued, is being revived. StartaleTV, through the newly running ESTV, is announcing plans for a Woman Starcraft® II League (WSL) for Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm.
SGATE, the corporation that runs ESTV, announced that the month-long scheduled WSL will begin on August 9th, 2013 on afreecaTV. This tournament, whose title sponsor is AfreecaTV, will be produced and organized by ESTV. Blizzard Entertainment & the esports leagues will also be sponsoring this event.
Registrations for this event will begin on the 30th from 9:00PM, and applications will be received until the 5th of next month (August 5th.) Brackets are planned to be announced on the 6th. For the hopeful applicants wishing to participate, please email startale01@gmail.com with the following statements:
Name
Battlenet ID
Battlenet Account
Race
Contact Information.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
Also: If you argue that women shouldn't get women's only leagues because they are bad and should compete versus men in "real tournaments", then WCS AM, WCS EU, Shoutcraft America, Dreamhack, MLG, and all other regional foreign tournaments should be trashed because only Koreans are any good at this game.
See how ridiculous this kind of reasoning is?
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On August 01 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
Also: If you argue that women shouldn't get women's only leagues because they are bad and should compete versus men in real tournaments, then WCS AM and WCS EU should be trashed because only Koreans are any good at this game.
See how ridiculous this kind of reasoning is?
I'd be completely fine with that, only watch Koreans anyway.
I don't watch the CFL, I watch the NFL.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 01 2013 14:36 Rhaegal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
Also: If you argue that women shouldn't get women's only leagues because they are bad and should compete versus men in real tournaments, then WCS AM and WCS EU should be trashed because only Koreans are any good at this game.
See how ridiculous this kind of reasoning is? I'd be completely fine with that, only watch Koreans anyway. I don't watch the CFL, I watch the NFL.
That's fine if that's your opinion then, as long as you're consistent!
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Northern Ireland27265 Posts
On August 01 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
Also: If you argue that women shouldn't get women's only leagues because they are bad and should compete versus men in "real tournaments", then WCS AM, WCS EU, Shoutcraft America, Dreamhack, MLG, and all other regional foreign tournaments should be trashed because only Koreans are any good at this game.
See how ridiculous this kind of reasoning is?
I don't see region-specific as being the same as genderlocked tournaments.
Most sports need that kind of structure to really prosper. You become the best at something in your city or region, go compete in your national championships, then once you triumph there in continental or world championships.
In E-sports, the nature of the internet obviously flips a lot of this around, but I still value the model. I prefer the WCG/original WCS format by far for an 'Olympics of E-sports' format than the current WCS.
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Not a huge fan of having a separate female league when there isn't an already established gender lock on any tournaments.
Would really like to find out if it's open to strictly "birth females" or if anyone who identifies as a female can join. Hopefully it's the former, because the latter would ruin any sense of excitement.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 01 2013 14:42 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
Also: If you argue that women shouldn't get women's only leagues because they are bad and should compete versus men in "real tournaments", then WCS AM, WCS EU, Shoutcraft America, Dreamhack, MLG, and all other regional foreign tournaments should be trashed because only Koreans are any good at this game.
See how ridiculous this kind of reasoning is? I don't see region-specific as being the same as genderlocked tournaments. Most sports need that kind of structure to really prosper. You become the best at something in your city or region, go compete in your national championships, then once you triumph there in continental or world championships. In E-sports, the nature of the internet obviously flips a lot of this around, but I still value the model. I prefer the WCG/original WCS format by far for an 'Olympics of E-sports' format than the current WCS.
In an online game, why are regional competitions important?
I can understand that the infrastructure of traditional sport was built on regional tournaments, local fans and support, and locally sourced talent. That's understandable because you could only really watch the teams nearby. But SC2 and esports do not have these kinds of geographic restrictions (ok, some lag but we can fix that) because a.) of internet and technology (communications is easier, forums allow disparate communities to interact, streaming matches, VODs, etc); b.) tournaments can be held online; and c.) teams don't have to source local talent. You can see this happening in traditional sports as well, albeit slowly and with restrictions to (b). I don't see why esports needs to be structured in a way similar to traditional sports in such a rigid way.
The only reason in favour of these regional tournaments is that people want to cheer for their next door neighbor, even though they aren't very good. How is that argument different from the argument made for or against women-only competitions?
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On August 01 2013 14:35 lichter wrote:
The female casters thread was closed for idiocy and it migrates into this topic? Sheesh.
I already verbally obliterated gr33n in that thread. He had zero chance.
#letzombiecast
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