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On August 01 2013 02:00 Empirimancer wrote:
Female-only chess leagues also only exist because female chess players generally can't compete with males.
It's like SC2, there's fewer players, therefore fewer pros at basically all levels. Judit was in the top 20 for a number of years, and basically always played vs males. On the other hand, female tournaments (and a different rating pool) helps support female chess by giving young players role models, an environment they feel safe in, an environment to grow in and so forth. The downside is, obviously, that the level of competition is not as high.
Certainly the top active women (Yifan Hou and Humpy Koneru for example) can compete at a pretty high level vs men, but just not necessarily at the 2700+ level (code a vs code s, to put it in sc2 terms).
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On August 01 2013 02:49 tiocsti wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:00 Empirimancer wrote:
Female-only chess leagues also only exist because female chess players generally can't compete with males.
It's like SC2, there's fewer players, therefore fewer pros at basically all levels. Judit was in the top 20 for a number of years, and basically always played vs males. On the other hand, female tournaments (and a different rating pool) helps support female chess by giving young players role models, an environment they feel safe in, an environment to grow in and so forth. The downside is, obviously, that the level of competition is not as high. Certainly the top active women (Yifan Hou and Humpy Koneru for example) can compete at a pretty high level vs men, but just not necessarily at the 2700+ level (code a vs code s, to put it in sc2 terms).
Wasn't there that one girl this year who was starting to reach that level? I forgot her name. Black girl from the US--I feel terrible for forgetting 
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Let's be real for a moment, some dudes watch female sports for the sex appeal. And I hate to disappoint some of you, but I wouldn't be surprised if the motivation for these tournaments aren't to give female players a chance to compete. Deep down, it's hosted probably to draw in a large audience who really just watch the sport for the sex appeal. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if Scarlette was rejected, for the same reason why unattractive girls are rejected from waitressing.
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On August 01 2013 03:23 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Let's be real for a moment, some dudes watch female sports for the sex appeal. And I hate to disappoint some of you, but I wouldn't be surprised if the motivation for these tournaments aren't to give female players a chance to compete. Deep down, it's hosted probably to draw in a large audience who really just watch the sport for the sex appeal. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if Scarlette was rejected, for the same reason why unattractive girls are rejected from waitressing.
Female tournaments historically have far lower viewer turnout, and most of the organizers are likely women who want to see more women compete and succeed. This isn't bikini mud wrestling.
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On August 01 2013 03:07 Thieving Magpie wrote:Wasn't there that one girl this year who was starting to reach that level? I forgot her name. Black girl from the US--I feel terrible for forgetting
I couldn't find any reference to that (which doesn't mean that it isn't the case, of course) on chessdrum (a web site which specializes in chess news related to black chess players, both male and female) in 2013, but perhaps she was at a slightly lower level. Hou was invited to Tata Steel (a super-gm invitational tournament), though, and did pretty well (but is a chinese player so neither black nor american).
Obviously, Judit played at a high level, but had the misfortune to develop in an era dominated by a single player.
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On August 01 2013 01:01 never_Nal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 00:01 Enema wrote:
So are players like Scarlett allowed to join? Or do you have to be born female to join? Not sure if troll or troll? But now I have my doubts as well 
How is this trolling it's a legitimate question I'm also curious if she would be able to play
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Do you need a proxy to watch afreeca ?
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Poll: Would you date Scarlett?No (57) 52% Yes (37) 34% If you have time (16) 15% 110 total votes Your vote: Would you date Scarlett? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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On August 01 2013 03:49 Rombur wrote:
Do you need a proxy to watch afreeca ?
I don't think you will need for this tournament.
Given there is ESF and Blizzard logo in the banner, I'd expect some sort of stream available to people through TL as always.
And I don't think they would charge $$$ for that stream to watch female league lol... (unless there is a bonus )
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On August 01 2013 03:27 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 03:23 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Let's be real for a moment, some dudes watch female sports for the sex appeal. And I hate to disappoint some of you, but I wouldn't be surprised if the motivation for these tournaments aren't to give female players a chance to compete. Deep down, it's hosted probably to draw in a large audience who really just watch the sport for the sex appeal. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if Scarlette was rejected, for the same reason why unattractive girls are rejected from waitressing. Female tournaments historically have far lower viewer turnout, and most of the organizers are likely women who want to see more women compete and succeed. This isn't bikini mud wrestling.
It's not doing well because the sex appeal is low.
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So wait I have a serious question, will Scarlett be allowed to play in this tournament?
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On August 01 2013 04:12 Incomplet wrote:Poll: Would you date Scarlett?No (57) 52% Yes (37) 34% If you have time (16) 15% 110 total votes Your vote: Would you date Scarlett? (Vote): Yes
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I feel bad but... "If you have time" fucking LOL.
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That pool is terrible and has no purpose beyond publicly humiliating someone. I don't know why it is still up.
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On August 01 2013 04:12 Incomplet wrote:Poll: Would you date Scarlett?No (57) 52% Yes (37) 34% If you have time (16) 15% 110 total votes Your vote: Would you date Scarlett? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth?Yes (109) 63% No (53) 30% Maybe (12) 7% 174 total votes Your vote: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth? (Vote): Yes
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Too bad if it's only streamed on afreeca, hopefully there will be restreams. Can't really watch afreeca that well in Northern Europe :/
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On August 01 2013 04:51 Waxangel wrote:Poll: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth?Yes (109) 63% No (53) 30% Maybe (12) 7% 174 total votes Your vote: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth? (Vote): Yes
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How the fuck is that 50-50 what is wrong with you people
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I think this is great news! I think women-only tournaments are a niche that's just waiting to be filled. Several female gamers have said that they got into competitive gaming through female-only cups, so I'm hoping this will catch the attention of more potential female progamers and help to improve the gender ratio in SC2.
Do the players have to reside in Korea, though? Although it wouldn't be a problem gathering 16 women to play, 16 Korean (or staying in Korea) women might be harder (at least if they should all be pros). Perhaps this is a kind of grassroots tournament to draw aspring Korean talent into competitive gaming (which would be great in its own respect), but as a tournament for the top pros, Korean residents might be a bit too restrictive. I guess it's best to wait for a translation. Either way, I hope it's going to turn out great!
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On August 01 2013 04:51 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 04:12 Incomplet wrote:Poll: Would you date Scarlett?No (57) 52% Yes (37) 34% If you have time (16) 15% 110 total votes Your vote: Would you date Scarlett? (Vote): Yes
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User was warned for this post Poll: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth?Yes (109) 63% No (53) 30% Maybe (12) 7% 174 total votes Your vote: Would you punch Incomplet in the mouth? (Vote): Yes
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If I had time
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Poll: Were you surprised to see Waxangel post in this thread ?If he had time (30) 51% Yes, he loves drama (13) 22% No, he spends all day in Nada's Body thread (9) 15% I will get warning/ban for this one :( (7) 12% 59 total votes Your vote: Were you surprised to see Waxangel post in this thread ? (Vote): Yes, he loves drama
(Vote): No, he spends all day in Nada's Body thread
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(Vote): I will get warning/ban for this one :(
Sorry for bit offtopic  made some on-topic comments in previous posts so bit humor shouldn't be punished now
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On August 01 2013 04:55 namste wrote:
Too bad if it's only streamed on afreeca, hopefully there will be restreams. Can't really watch afreeca that well in Northern Europe :/
Wasn't there some rule about how tournaments have to be streamed on Twitch?
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