EPTWCS Season 2 Regional League Finals Dates - Page 23
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:59 Plansix wrote: Well the issue isn't that they want it to be this weekend, it is that there aren't any other weekends that most of the production teams can do the finals. ELS has stuff to do, NASL has World of Tanks the next weekend and they only have 12 weeks to Blizzcon. It is just how it worked out with so many players in the scene and production companies like ESL, GOM and NASL working on multiple games. I don't buy it, EU finals could have easily been sooner. WCS EU is skipping 3 weeks between the end of the ro32 and the start of the ro16. | ||
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
It really is like scheduling the finals of a major rugby or cricket tournament at the same time as the FIFA World Cup finals. Utterly beyond belief. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:59 Plansix wrote: Well the issue isn't that they want it to be this weekend, it is that there aren't any other weekends that most of the production teams can do the finals. ELS has stuff to do, NASL has World of Tanks the next weekend and they only have 12 weeks to Blizzcon. It is just how it worked out with so many players in the scene and production companies like ESL, GOM and NASL working on multiple games. Well it's not like they started WCS yesterday, it's just another example of the poor execution from this Blizzard esport team. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:00 Dodgin wrote: I don't buy it, EU finals could have easily been sooner. WCS EU is skipping 3 weeks between the end of the ro32 and the start of the ro16. That would over lap with ASUS ROG Summer 2013 and Proleague finals, which are also that weekend. Unless they did it this weekend with almost no notice to the teams. I mean, all the options suck. I guess they could do it late August and have 9 weeks to get through season 3 before Blizzcon. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:41 Crytash wrote: Yes you are right, but you should also not underestimade the power of reddit/TL. Even casual gamers have friends, who are more involved in the scene and they gonna tell them and so forth, who says, that this shows not the general tendency of the gamers (even the more casual ones). Over all i am sure, that many of the so called old school gamers will tune in for such events as a anual Dota 2 super bowl as TI3 is and they will know where to look (TL and so forth) and they will read some of the sadness. Tbh the only good thing today is, that i actually accept, that Blizzard is not the Blizzard of the old and that i will think twice of supporting them in any way. I was very lucky with Diablo 3 (realy wanted to buy it, but a friend got it and i could see, how it not worked), but hey we will see what will happen with this whole scene as well. it is very nice that you think so highly of the harcore gaming communities  .Makes me feel better about posting on teamliqudi and reddit .As for blizzard it is only doing what it can to survive as a pay to play company in an internet dominated by free to play stuff.New fans seems to appreciate it hence the high sales of blizzard games so for them for every oldschool gamer they lose they gain a couple of thousands of new ones to fill their pockets | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:03 Plansix wrote: That would over lap with ASUS ROG Summer 2013 and Proleague finals, which are also that weekend. Unless they did it this weekend with almost no notice to the teams. Ro16 is during weekdays, I'm suggesting that they could have started the ro16 sooner and then they would have been able to do the top 8 weekend tournament the weekend before ti3. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:04 Dodgin wrote: Ro16 is during weekdays, I'm suggesting that they could have started the ro16 sooner and then they would have been able to do the top 8 weekend tournament the weekend before ti3. I don't know, that still doesn't fix the problem of NA and KR. We would be just be screaming about NA being that weekend. GOM has world of tanks playing those days as well. I don't think there is a weekend when those production crews are not spoken for. Doesn't ESL also do the LCS during the week? | ||
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:09 Plansix wrote: I don't know, that still doesn't fix the problem of NA and KR. We would be just be screaming about NA being that weekend. GOM has world of tanks playing those days as well. I don't think there is a weekend when those production crews are not spoken for. Doesn't ESL also do the LCS during the week? KR overlap wouldn't be a big deal because it doesn't air during the same time as TI3 and It's only the finals instead of a top 8 multi day tournament. AM could have started earlier as well, they are way behind schedule compared to EU for some reason(most likely the mlg nasl shakeup). | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:13 Dodgin wrote: KR overlap wouldn't be a big deal because it doesn't air during the same time as TI3 and It's only the finals instead of a top 8 multi day tournament. AM could have started earlier as well, they are way behind schedule compared to EU for some reason(most likely the mlg nasl shakeup). Yeah, that is likely the reason for the hold up. And I think ESL has to balance is production crew between WCS and LCS, unless they have double staff, but that would be crazy. This is the world we live in now, production studios featuring several games and sometimes the times and dates don't work out. If you take the time and try to factor into everything these studios are doing, it make sense that their time is limited. Really I am just glad Blizzard is taking the heat for this. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:17 tshi wrote: Wait so LoL is less popular than DoTA2? I mean either way SC2 is fucked, don't get me wrong,lol. But I thought LoL was the biggest esPoRt game No its totally the most popular game in the world still, but TI3 only comes once a year. Its like Christmas, so for that weekend it is bigger than LoL. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:17 tshi wrote: Wait so LoL is less popular than DoTA2? I mean either way SC2 is fucked, don't get me wrong,lol. But I thought LoL was the biggest esPoRt game well it really depends how you see stuff.from a casual perspective lol brags with more accounts but dota2 is begging to brag with many concurrent views lately too.From a proscene perspective lol has the stable lcs league while dota 2 has the multitude of tournaments and the international which is by far the biggest one weekend event in esports.Also geography is really important.Dota2 is more CHina/Eastern Euroepe/Russia while lol is mostly na/western europe/korea.Dunno nowadays its just like between football and basketball.None has a clear advantage.I persoanlly like sc2 with its many tournaments and the fact it has the cringiest drama of them all. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:24 theking1 wrote: well it really depends how you see stuff.from a casual perspective lol brags with more accounts but dota2 is begging to brag with many concurrent views lately too.From a proscene perspective lol has the stable lcs league while dota 2 has the multitude of tournaments and the international which is by far the biggest one weekend event in esports.Also geography is really important.Dota2 is more CHina/Eastern Euroepe/Russia while lol is mostly na/western europe/korea.Dunno nowadays its just like between football and basketball.None has a clear advantage.I persoanlly like sc2 with its many tournaments and the fact it has the cringiest drama of them all. Dota 2 teams are to busy to have drama, since they all have like 57 matches a week to play in 24 different 15K cups. All casted by Tobiwa and all hours of the day. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:29 Plansix wrote: Dota 2 teams are to busy to have drama, since they all have like 57 matches a week to play in 24 different 15K cups. All casted by Tobiwa and all hours of the day. hmm..never knew the dota2 scene is this well developed.need to pay closer attention .Too much sc2 to watch so many esports | ||
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drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
On July 23 2013 11:29 Plansix wrote: Dota 2 teams are to busy to have drama, since they all have like 57 matches a week to play in 24 different 15K cups. All casted by Tobiwa and all hours of the day. Oh trust me, even in the most barren of landscapes the llama finds a way. | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
From an eSports perspective, Valve has done something amazing for the community. By crowdsourcing the tournament via the International Compendium on Dota 2, they've raised over $4 million in revenue for the event alone, $1 million of which is going to increase the already substantial prize pool to $2.6 million, the biggest in eSports history. The $4 million from Compendium sales alone might be pushing the barrier for paying for the entire event itself. Wouldn't it be cool to see something as well-produced as the International and be told, "Yes, this was all done by you, the community. All of it was paid by your passion for our game." It is a complete 180 from the way Blizzard and Riot have handled things by trying to take more of the tournament development into the company's hands. Valve's dedication to the eSports community has been top-notch. The in-game pennant system and in-game ticket system give viewers the ability to support the tournaments they choose while also providing tangible benefit for the viewer who purchases them. Their observing client is second-to-none when it comes to the features that the game gives the viewer. You can even link your Twitch account to your Steam account with the hopes of winning items, in the case you can't actually watch the game from in-client. It's clear that Valve knows what they're doing when it comes to how to make their customers happy. Dota 2 tournaments are flooded with constant cup after cup after cup, and it's very common to see teams play two Bo3s a day, multiple days a week. It's almost becoming a problem when it comes to Dota 2 viewership. The International is the crowning achievement for all Dota 2 teams, and it makes itself stand out from everything else in a big way. Sorry, Blizzard, but this is an easy choice for me. | ||
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