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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:31 Taku wrote: It really is, but it's moments like this that justify it, no? xD Hmm, I disagree with your signature. It's not SC2 that came for BW, it was Blizzard's short-sightedness and greed. And now, it's also Blizzard's incompetence that's hurting SC2 more than the presence of and competition with DotA2/LoL. ^^ | ||
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Crytash
Germany251 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:32 theking1 wrote: you sort of fall into the oldschool gamer category aka the ones who played wc3 and dota1.Most new dota2 fans never played those.And reddit and teamliquid arent representative of casual fans but more of the more involved ones.Dota2 has hundreds of thousands of watchers.How many people are in the tl and reddit forum?Couple of thousands maybe.And many say they never heard of blizzard or sc2.... Yes you are right, but you should also not underestimade the power of reddit/TL. Even casual gamers have friends, who are more involved in the scene and they gonna tell them and so forth, who says, that this shows not the general tendency of the gamers (even the more casual ones). Over all i am sure, that many of the so called old school gamers will tune in for such events as a anual Dota 2 super bowl as TI3 is and they will know where to look (TL and so forth) and they will read some of the sadness. Tbh the only good thing today is, that i actually accept, that Blizzard is not the Blizzard of the old and that i will think twice of supporting them in any way. I was very lucky with Diablo 3 (realy wanted to buy it, but a friend got it and i could see, how it not worked), but hey we will see what will happen with this whole scene as well. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:42 Kishin2 wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if Valve had an alternate stream provider in case Twitch explodes. They already have. You can watch TI3 in game for free. | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:35 Plansix wrote: Not really, still obnoxious. But this is the Internet, so it is expected. Well, Blizzard justified the early shut-down of korean BW by essentially saying 'trust us and don't worry, we've got lots of good things in store for you' and clearly that statement has proven false. Kind of OT though, but yeah Blizzard's condescending statement they've put out isn't helping at all imo, they've lost serious credibility not only with the player/audience base, but more importantly with sponsors/organizers. | ||
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Gary Oak
Canada2381 Posts
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:42 Kishin2 wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if Valve had an alternate stream provider in case Twitch explodes. Download Dota 2 client to watch for free + casters, + anything else you want (player POV, etc..) | ||
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InstantKarma
United States205 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Riffandroll
Canada71 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:44 InstantKarma wrote: For the first time in years the NASL sound guy feels not only capable but extremely competent knowing that he will never be able to fuck up as badly as Blizzard did. Lol... I miss NASL :-( | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
So yeah. in the past years I've become a huge Valve fan and now have 500+ games of DotA 2 played. No regrets. Here's a conversation of me describing the experience of Dota to my best sc2 friend: "So, if you buy the ticket to the league, you can actually obs in game" "What!? What do you mean" "I mean like in the game observing, opening graphs, vision, first person views with cursors, the whole 9 yards" "Are you serious? But then there's no casting" "Well actually the casters from the live stream have their audio streamed into the client. So you can choose between any caster you like and still observe for yourself." "What the actual fuck" | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:43 Taku wrote: Well, Blizzard justified the early shut-down of korean BW by essentially saying 'trust us and don't worry, we've got lots of good things in store for you' and clearly that statement has proven false. Kind of OT though, but yeah Blizzard's condescending statement they've put out isn't helping at all imo, they've lost serious credibility not only with the player/audience base, but more importantly with sponsors/organizers. Yeah, I'm not really seeing it, but people see what they want to see. It is always fun when some bad news comes out and the drama gets hot and people come out of the woodwork to jump on the Blizzard hate train. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On the other hand... I guess... who cares. Season 2 WCS regional finals - not that important altogether, compared to TI3, even if you don't play or watch Dota 2 at all. Hell, even non-esports people will tune in for TI3, it's arguably the biggest esports event of the year. So, thanks Blizz, you make the choice what to watch very easy. You know what's the worst about it though - it shows blizz folks don't watch The International. Which means they are deprived of a sense of esports that anyone today should have. It's just sad. p.s. Twitch better prepare. Prepare their servers/bandwidth etc hard, because they are gonna be up for the rape of their lives. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30545 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:43 iKill[ShocK] wrote: Download Dota 2 client to watch for free + casters, + anything else you want (player POV, etc..) I think the dotatv client is gonna lag too Sometimes when I spectate live tourney matches, I get pretty bad lag as is (and I know for sure its not computer/internet issue) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:45 Emzeeshady wrote: When did Blizzard shut down Korean BW? Not saying they didn't but I just don't know. The filed a law suit for control of their IP(aka Starcraft) in Korea to confirm they would have control over it when they sold SC2. Since BW has been running for 10 years, there was question if they even controled it in Korea. It settled out of court and Blizzard has had control of the IP ever since. It is one of the reasons Blizzard started working with GOM back in the day, rather than Kespa. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:42 Fwizzz wrote: They already have. You can watch TI3 in game for free. Yes, but those are only the games. A huge portion of the content for TI3 will only be visible on stream (for now at least..). They're preparing all out to make this event the best ever. Missing the interviews, analysts, etc. would hurt. I kind of expect them to have prepared a back up plan with youtube or something to get that through in case something they can't fix on their end goes wrong. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 23 2013 10:56 DwD wrote: I'm just baffled at the thought of somewhere in Blizz HQ a group of people who makes these decisions thought this was a good plan... Who are these people who makes these decisions? They need to get fired asap because they just have 0 clue. Well the issue isn't that they want it to be this weekend, it is that there aren't any other weekends that most of the production teams can do the finals. ELS has stuff to do, NASL has World of Tanks the next weekend and they only have 12 weeks to Blizzcon. It is just how it worked out with so many players in the scene and production companies like ESL, GOM and NASL working on multiple games. | ||
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