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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 23 2013 02:42 GMT
#461
SC2 is basically the only eSport I watch with the only exception being TI's No clue why you'd want to go up against the biggest event of the year -.-
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 23 2013 02:44 GMT
#462
LoL is more popular than Dota2 and a bigger e-sport, but The International is Dota2's Super Bowl. It's stupid to try and compete against it. I think SC2 could probably be fine against any other Dota2 tournament throughout the year, depending on what players were involved, but going against The International is just something that Blizzard really shouldn't have done. All it it's going to do is get people to scream, 'SC2 IS DEAD!' when the WCS America finals have 22,000 viewers and The International has 200,000.

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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 23 2013 02:50 GMT
#463
On July 23 2013 11:44 Fionn wrote:
LoL is more popular than Dota2 and a bigger e-sport, but The International is Dota2's Super Bowl. It's stupid to try and compete against it. I think SC2 could probably be fine against any other Dota2 tournament throughout the year, depending on what players were involved, but going against The International is just something that Blizzard really shouldn't have done. All it it's going to do is get people to scream, 'SC2 IS DEAD!' when the WCS America finals have 22,000 viewers and The International has 200,000.



Ti3 should do way better than 200k, I could see WCS getting less than 20k for the finals if they get unlucky with a boring finals, it didn't even break 20k today for a great Polt vs Taeja game that it had nothing else to compete with.
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
July 23 2013 02:50 GMT
#464
On July 23 2013 11:44 Fionn wrote:
LoL is more popular than Dota2 and a bigger e-sport, but The International is Dota2's Super Bowl. It's stupid to try and compete against it. I think SC2 could probably be fine against any other Dota2 tournament throughout the year, depending on what players were involved, but going against The International is just something that Blizzard really shouldn't have done. All it it's going to do is get people to scream, 'SC2 IS DEAD!' when the WCS America finals have 22,000 viewers and The International has 200,000.



200K? Didn't it have upwards of 500K including China last year?
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Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 02:57:25
July 23 2013 02:56 GMT
#465
over 560k viewers last time.

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dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
July 23 2013 02:56 GMT
#466
bad move blizzard i'm not missing TI3... i'll just wait for the global finals
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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
July 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#467
As if there's no downtime between games...
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 23 2013 03:06 GMT
#468
Didn't care much about TI3 since I'm not a fan. SC2 fans will watch sc2, Dota fans will watch TI3. Fans of both games.. its their choice lol. Stupid is three WCS finals in one weekend. And the earlier stages couple of days before that, God its tiring to watch that. And also gl to twitch,
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Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
July 23 2013 03:12 GMT
#469
On July 23 2013 11:50 LiamTheZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 11:44 Fionn wrote:
LoL is more popular than Dota2 and a bigger e-sport, but The International is Dota2's Super Bowl. It's stupid to try and compete against it. I think SC2 could probably be fine against any other Dota2 tournament throughout the year, depending on what players were involved, but going against The International is just something that Blizzard really shouldn't have done. All it it's going to do is get people to scream, 'SC2 IS DEAD!' when the WCS America finals have 22,000 viewers and The International has 200,000.



200K? Didn't it have upwards of 500K including China last year?


Yeah, but consider that 400,000 compendiums have already been bought, with more being bought each day, and the fact that all those do is enhance viewing of TI3, they aren't actually required to view it at all. It's completely extra.

It's going to be redonkulous, and I get to be there live 8]
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scBaldwin
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
July 23 2013 03:15 GMT
#470
hmm well i'm very sad now.. is there anything we can do? any chance blizzard will change the dates when they see the outcry?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2013 03:17 GMT
#471
On July 23 2013 12:15 scBaldwin wrote:
hmm well i'm very sad now.. is there anything we can do? any chance blizzard will change the dates when they see the outcry?

No place to put the events. NASL and ELS got other events to run the next weekends. They didn't want to put it here, but it is how it worked out.
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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 23 2013 03:18 GMT
#472
Would it really be that crazy for them to host the regional finals on a weekday just before/after the weekend? Wouldn't it detract less from the event than going on the weekend?
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
July 23 2013 03:18 GMT
#473
Dota and sc2 have the most overlap of any fanbase... and I'm pretty sure the dates for TI3 have been out for a while. Blizzard can't just bullshit this off as if overlap is impossible to avoid. it's not the overlap, it's this overlap in particular. TI3 definitely the biggest thing that they should want to avoid, so don't play it off like Asus ROG is the same weekend as Assembly, because it is not the same.
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
July 23 2013 03:18 GMT
#474
OT but my brother and I were comparing games to RL sports and I think we did a good job.

DoTA2 = NBA. It has the most recognizable names and personalities. Everyone knows Na'Vi, with Puppey, Kuroky, Xboct, some Chinese players are huge, TL players like Korok and Bulba are huge, EG has Demon etc. etc. Valve with the trading cards has done great in promoting.

LoL = NFL. Biggest eSport but I don't see their players as very recognizable.

Fighting Games = XGames. With FG's nobody cares until Evo. Same as XGames, nobody watches until Evo then people all suddenly want Daigo autographs.

Call of Duty = Hockey. Violent and brutal, with a limited fanbase.

SC2 now that is probably closest to Baseball. Or maybe Tennis. But I like the Baseball analogy more. A hardcore viewing experience, most people consider SCII boring to watch but for the included it can be most exciting. SCII like Baseball is slow but with really exciting and tense moments. Also both have gratuitous downtime.

SCII has some recognizable stars, and like baseball only one region has all the best players. (a bit of a stretch as MLB is multicultural but still USA has no equal).

So anyway imagine if the World Series got put up against NBA Finals. It would maybe be okay admittedly but there would be very polarized viewing audiences. Baseball would get killed because as a young person, you would never choose MLB > NBA.

Same thing in SC2, I just feel like the hype train is much much too strong for DoTA2. Its really cocky for Blizzard to do this.

I just think Blizzard is a cheesy and awful company now, its like the Microsoft of games. The 2010 Microsoft. Pay2Win in WoW, 24 hours straight of SCII, Diablo 3 auctions. Just too much bullshit.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
July 23 2013 03:20 GMT
#475
Am I the only one thinking this is no big deal? SC2 EU and KR shouldnt be affected, or minimally affected. WCS AM is also the least interesting one to me. And theres generally enough downtime on streams to enjoy both (WCS AM and TI3). I'll be sure to enjoy every hour of esports that weekend.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 23 2013 03:23 GMT
#476
On July 23 2013 12:20 Kreb wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this is no big deal? SC2 EU and KR shouldnt be affected, or minimally affected. WCS AM is also the least interesting one to me. And theres generally enough downtime on streams to enjoy both (WCS AM and TI3). I'll be sure to enjoy every hour of esports that weekend.

They may be able to work around TI3 or have minimal overlap, it depends on what is going on. It is the finals, so it can't take that long.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 03:30 GMT
#477
I think I'll be at the beach that weekend surfing shit gotta resched
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Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
July 23 2013 03:41 GMT
#478
On July 23 2013 12:20 Kreb wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this is no big deal? SC2 EU and KR shouldnt be affected, or minimally affected. WCS AM is also the least interesting one to me. And theres generally enough downtime on streams to enjoy both (WCS AM and TI3). I'll be sure to enjoy every hour of esports that weekend.


You're not the only one. I don't care about dota2 or moba games in general, and I'll just do what I always do when it comes to watching any sc2. I'll watch what I can (probably wcs kr and a bit of am, eu is in the middle of the night for me), and check TL for results on what I missed. Don't really have time for vods unfortunately.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
July 23 2013 03:43 GMT
#479
To me it just seems more like an underhanded way to stifle Dota growth in Korea than incompetence.
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 03:56:24
July 23 2013 03:55 GMT
#480
On July 23 2013 12:23 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 12:20 Kreb wrote:
Am I the only one thinking this is no big deal? SC2 EU and KR shouldnt be affected, or minimally affected. WCS AM is also the least interesting one to me. And theres generally enough downtime on streams to enjoy both (WCS AM and TI3). I'll be sure to enjoy every hour of esports that weekend.

They may be able to work around TI3 or have minimal overlap, it depends on what is going on. It is the finals, so it can't take that long.

I'm pretty sure that NA and EU will be playing RO8 and on (including placement match) that weekend like they did last season, and the schedule posted in the OP includes semifinals scheduling for korea but only RO16 group stages for US/EU.
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