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JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 22:29:38
June 30 2013 22:27 GMT
#41
I tend to use all of them, actually. I prefer it to too much mouse usage. With Protoss, I used them all as well, but with Zerg I didn't use quite so many, due to Zerg only having one production building. I play Terran now.

Mouse button 4 - army
Mouse button 5 - other army type, or a drop. I don't use this one often
1 - tanks
2- barracks
3 - CC
4 - Factory
5 - Starport
6 - Engi bays
~ - Widow mines
Q - Scouting unit or vikings

I also use camera hotkeys for bases and the point where my units are rallied.
sixilli
Profile Joined April 2013
51 Posts
June 30 2013 22:29 GMT
#42
Yeah I agree more hotkeys is usually better. It's really nice to have something just a button away. I'll have to try the q,w remap.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3408 Posts
June 30 2013 22:39 GMT
#43
Is it not possible to have more than 10 control groups?
I currently have:
0: Forges/Cybercore
9: Stargate
8: Robotics Facility
7: Gateways
6: Nexus
5: Observer
4: Warp Prism/Oracle/DT, other harass
3: Split army; Phoenix/Blinkstalker
2: Sentry
1: Main army
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
June 30 2013 22:41 GMT
#44
1 core army
2, 3 support (ghosts, vikings etc)
4 CC's
5 rax
6 fact
7 port
8, 9 drops, stray units/hitsquads, armory
0 ebays/armories
And I click the minimap instead of using camera hotkeys
(Also, why would you keep hotkeying gateways when WG is done o.O)
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sixilli
Profile Joined April 2013
51 Posts
June 30 2013 22:43 GMT
#45
It just occurred to me that I can use my thumb to assign control groups past 7 . . . . Just thought I would share that useful information with you guys. haha
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
June 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#46
I don't know if you know, but if you rebind a control group it still appears as his former number on the CG bar (IE I replaced 8 with ² to bind my factories, but they still appear as on 8). So if you see a pro using 7/8/9/0 CGs on his streams, he's not necessarily using the 7/8/9/0 keys.
RacerX
Profile Joined December 2010
United States168 Posts
June 30 2013 23:38 GMT
#47
When I changed my control groups to using all 10 keys I had to change my hand position. My hand is now more-so placed closer to the middle of the keyboard so I can hit 8 9 0 easier. It will also take at least a week or so to start getting used to it.
Thats the power of pine sol
sixilli
Profile Joined April 2013
51 Posts
June 30 2013 23:39 GMT
#48
On July 01 2013 08:35 Nimix wrote:
I don't know if you know, but if you rebind a control group it still appears as his former number on the CG bar (IE I replaced 8 with ² to bind my factories, but they still appear as on 8). So if you see a pro using 7/8/9/0 CGs on his streams, he's not necessarily using the 7/8/9/0 keys.


Yeah I know this. It's specifically why I was asking for particular hotkey setups and not control groups. Which people still posted anyways. None the less I can say this thread was worth making I learned a few tricks!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
June 30 2013 23:40 GMT
#49
On July 01 2013 08:38 RacerX wrote:
When I changed my control groups to using all 10 keys I had to change my hand position. My hand is now more-so placed closer to the middle of the keyboard so I can hit 8 9 0 easier. It will also take at least a week or so to start getting used to it.

You could change the control group positions to be closer to the rest of the keys Less hand movement helps make you play faster in my opinion.
jjakji fan
OhMyGhosty
Profile Joined October 2012
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 23:52:50
June 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#50
As Zerg I use

1 : Main Army
2 : Casters, runbys etc
3 : Upgrades + all tech buildings + creep queens
4 : Hatcheries
5 : Inject Queens
6 : 1st overlord for scouting

then I reminded 7 to `~` and use that also for Muta harass, runbys, etc.


So I'd say just rebind stuff using shift or w.e
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
June 30 2013 23:53 GMT
#51
On July 01 2013 06:52 slowbacontron wrote:
I mean, I know advocates of TheCore are like zerglings swarming over to attack everyone's mineral lines, but seriously, just one of the many features of TheCore is that all ten control groups are at MOST 2 keys away from your hand's natural resting position. Including your two most important groups, CCs and production buildings, literally right under your index and middle fingers. All the rest are completely available for army, scouting, harass, etc. I recommend looking into it.

Note: I'm talking about Terran and Protoss here, Zerg is in a way even more extremely optimized and I don't know anything about it.

Edit: oh I see you're already using it. Cool


I think the Core is overly complicated and a waste of time to try and figure. No one should have to spend 100-300 games to figure out a hotkey method.

Personally I designed my setup around WASD because I played primarily shooters before I got into SC. I never liked moving my hand a whole lot and I wanted to keep it centered around WASD. This is for Terran.

F1: Idle Workers
F2-F9: Camera Hotkeys for Bases
1: Command Centers + Engineering Bays + Armories
2: Barracks
3: Factories
4: Starports
Q: Primary Army Hotkey
W: Secondary Army Hotkey
E: Tertiary Army Hotkey
~: Drop Hotkey 1
Front Mouse Button: Drop Hotkey 2

I also changed most of the ability hotkeys and building hotkeys that are displaced by my QWE on FDRTCV. I use F and D a lot of switching modes for siege tanks, widow mines, vikings, etc.
Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
June 30 2013 23:56 GMT
#52
1- Spellcasters/Tanks/Mines/Vikings
2- Main Army
3- Barracks
4- CCs
5- Starport
6- Factory
7- Spellcasters/Tanks/Mines/Vikings
8- N/A
9- N/A
0- Upgrades

Camera Hotkeys F1, F3, F4, F5.

1 and 7 and dependent on the match-up. My control groups may not be optimal, but they work for me
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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
June 30 2013 23:59 GMT
#53
interesting, since i played BW I do use all, 1-2 army 3 main 4-6 buildings 7 drops 8-9 expansions 0 all ccd
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
MannerzMan
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States63 Posts
July 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#54
I play Protoss at mid-high masters. My hotkeys are:
1- stalkers
2 -zlot/sentry/collu
3 - templar
4- nexuses
5- robo
6- stargate
7- (space) tech building (storm timing or range collu timing etc etc)
8- (tab) - mothership core
9- (q) - upgrades
0- (`) - harass unit (pylon block, warp prism, observer)

use camera hotkeys on all nexuses f2-fwhatever bases i get to
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 01 2013 00:31 GMT
#55
On July 01 2013 08:53 BlackPanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 06:52 slowbacontron wrote:
I mean, I know advocates of TheCore are like zerglings swarming over to attack everyone's mineral lines, but seriously, just one of the many features of TheCore is that all ten control groups are at MOST 2 keys away from your hand's natural resting position. Including your two most important groups, CCs and production buildings, literally right under your index and middle fingers. All the rest are completely available for army, scouting, harass, etc. I recommend looking into it.

Note: I'm talking about Terran and Protoss here, Zerg is in a way even more extremely optimized and I don't know anything about it.

Edit: oh I see you're already using it. Cool


I think the Core is overly complicated and a waste of time to try and figure. No one should have to spend 100-300 games to figure out a hotkey method.

Personally I designed my setup around WASD because I played primarily shooters before I got into SC. I never liked moving my hand a whole lot and I wanted to keep it centered around WASD. This is for Terran.

F1: Idle Workers
F2-F9: Camera Hotkeys for Bases
1: Command Centers + Engineering Bays + Armories
2: Barracks
3: Factories
4: Starports
Q: Primary Army Hotkey
W: Secondary Army Hotkey
E: Tertiary Army Hotkey
~: Drop Hotkey 1
Front Mouse Button: Drop Hotkey 2

I also changed most of the ability hotkeys and building hotkeys that are displaced by my QWE on FDRTCV. I use F and D a lot of switching modes for siege tanks, widow mines, vikings, etc.

I would disagree with you on the point of TheCore. If done correctly and carefully, more research on a good hotkey layout will definitely improve its effectiveness and allow a player to play faster and more accurately. You could spend less time and make do with something that seems intuitively right, but luckily TheCore has been made and it's been worked on for over a year to bring the best benefits to one's gameplay it can.
jjakji fan
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 01 2013 00:34 GMT
#56
Guys, please stop listing what units you put on each group. It's not what the OP asked for xD
jjakji fan
ComBro1
Profile Joined March 2011
80 Posts
July 01 2013 00:35 GMT
#57
I have rebound 9 and 0 to q and w, with 8 being the biggest stretch (but i only use 8 for ghost academy), and in a good TvP, I will use all 10 hotkeys, but I think that thats the kind of thing that doesnt really come naturally, its more of a forced thing (to use all 10).
Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 00:53:30
July 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#58
Terran Hotkeys

1 - All army units Or Bio only if you have ghosts.
2 - Ghosts, Tanks, Medivacs, Mines
3 - Ghosts, Tanks, Medivacs, Mines
4 - CC
5 - Barracks, Factorys, Starports (I use the tab method)
6 - Engineering Bay, Armory


Im also using a fully custom plus very compact hotkey setup i made. I have small hands so i can only stretch so far. 6 is a big stretch for me.
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VIPlol
Profile Joined November 2011
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 00:54:26
July 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#59
1 army
2 tanks/vikings/WM
3 CCs / ghosts
4 Marines
5 production
6 EBays
7-9 CCs
0 lol?
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 01 2013 01:04 GMT
#60
On July 01 2013 09:34 slowbacontron wrote:
Guys, please stop listing what units you put on each group. It's not what the OP asked for xD

2nd time on the same page lol
jjakji fan
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