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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:20 saltis wrote: Uh, and you get super uber additional unit just for additional 50/100 LOL that must be too good to be true. I hope you don't mean Oracle, because they are seriously a borderline trash unit. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
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Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
The warp prism is going to cause great annoyance in my ongoing campaign against cheesing protoss players on ladder. Concerning the Hellbat nerf, I don't know what to think about. However, I am wondering what the go to TvT build will be following the banshee and hellbat changes. | ||
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Dudasc
Brazil286 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:23 Absentia wrote: Considering we practically never see banshees anymore outside of TvT, I'm not sure why there are people complaining about a banshee buff... The warp prism is going to cause great annoyance in my ongoing campaign against cheesing protoss players on ladder. Concerning the Hellbat nerf, I don't know what to think about. However, I am wondering what the go to TvT build will be following the banshee and hellbat changes. we dont see banshees cuz hellbat are too strong. now banshee wil be imba | ||
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:05 Nightsz wrote: 1/1/1 wont do shit because of nexus pew pew cannon owns anything at siege tank range Indeed, I wonder how people are thinking to 1-1-1 toss. Ask him for an honourable battle in the middle of the map? Otherwise he just sits happily at his natural and the moment you attack planetary nexus solves it. Lately since at least at my level phoenix openings are extremely rare again, (unlike a bit ago), I went for the WoL banshee into mech strategy again. With these changes it might get to the same strenght it had in WoL, which also wasn't exactly OP. Why? Simply because toss has so many more early game all-ins, that you outright die to if you would follow the WoL BO. So currently for example I use my factory for widow mines, instead of tech lab switch, slowing everything down. Then for example wall offs are really problematic vs toss who likes to snipe supply depots, but without them you are more vulnerable to DTs, which are less of an investment for toss. When you arrive at the toss base a banshee will be heavily damaged by planetary nexus before it leaves its range. So unless you really go coinflip style: lets hope the toss doesn't all-in me, or even poke me at the front (really toss should do that way more often) and do it WoL style, it won't come faster than in WoL with these changes. And lets face it, the chance a toss doesn't all-in you is pretty low. | ||
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Happa
Russian Federation6 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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saltis
159 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:24 Sissors wrote: Indeed, I wonder how people are thinking to 1-1-1 toss. Ask him for an honourable battle in the middle of the map? Otherwise he just sits happily at his natural and the moment you attack planetary nexus solves it. If you want honorable battle - play TvT. Toss players are not guilty that Blizzard made it 200 Amove race. | ||
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midnight999
United States257 Posts
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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midnight999
United States257 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:24 Dudasc wrote: we dont see banshees cuz hellbat are too strong. now banshee wil be imba Imba? Where were these banshees near the end of WOL? It is even easier to defend vs them in HOTS. | ||
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
stop making TvT obnoxious blizzard. | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:33 ZenithM wrote: Yeah this actually looks grim in TvT. We'll probably only see cloaked banshees or blind ravens for a while, this shit just comes too early not to use now. 20s is really fast. This overbuffing Terran syndrome can bite other T's in the ass too. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On June 15 2013 06:36 Cloak wrote: 20s is really fast. This overbuffing Terran syndrome can bite other T's in the ass too. You in particular should be happy though  I haven't done the math nor can I test it on this PC right now, but can you reasonably go cloak with one gas now? I don't think you can but I'd like to check anyway. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Then some time later, nerf Banshee again and we would have gotten nerfed without anything in return. | ||
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