EPTOn June 12 2013 11:14 skylarr wrote:
Looks like someone's troll detection mechanism is failing
Looks like someone's troll detection mechanism is failing
Mine is going off the charts reading your posts.
Situation Report: June 11, 2013 - Page 7
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Mine is going off the charts reading your posts. | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
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Mattumsfox
United States233 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:20 Bagi wrote: Mine is going off the charts reading your posts. Except that he isn't trolling lol. He is just actually that zerg biased. | ||
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:20 Bagi wrote: Mine is going off the charts reading your posts. im flamed from dk's decision. excuse me | ||
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RandomAccount#106470
Lithuania1506 Posts
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FlyingFalap
Canada22 Posts
This too shall pass | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Well that said the muta problem was attempted to be solved through buffing the spores so I want more of that approach. I'd prefer to see them modify corruption on corruptors or something over nerfing the voids. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:05 skylarr wrote: Yes, now that fungal's a skill shot,no complaints can be made about a good fungal. And no one suggests that hellbats and mines to be rendered useless. It's just that it's a problem when zerg has to all in every game vs terran. Dont you think? In which world does zerg, a race with a much, much stronger late game than terran, have to allin versus terran every game? Don't base your whines off Innovation's TvZ, no one else in the world, except maybe Flash, can pull off that kind of micro. | ||
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v_lm
France202 Posts
I feel like both units need to be change because they "lock" the gameplay in their own way. WM prevent tactical moves such as siege tank positionning but also mech upgrade timings or simply waiting the right army number for moving out. They also require very few micro from the terran. There is also no point in questioning oneself : "Should I build a widowmine or save the money for something else" because they are very cheap and its always a good idea to build them. VR prevent any kind of timing play from the zerg and forces the game to be muta corruptor harass based with no other true game plan / a split map situation with swarmhost corruptors and vipers. Worst is that after sOs s game everybody on the ladder starts to plays this kind of style, split map games can be fun but I hate being forced in a specific play without the possibility of doing anything else. Even with a big skill difference. Very frustrating. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:19 xAdra wrote: I think they could try introducing more buffs as opposed to nerfs. Like something that will majorly shake up the game, such as Tanks getting +damage against shields, or stalkers having better upgrade scaling but longer blink cooldown. It would be really cool, especially the former which will make mech viable. If mech were viable, TvP as both a viewer and a player would be diversified so much, it would seem like an all new sc2. Tanks getting +damage against shields? What? Er, no. Thanks, but no, thanks. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:41 aZealot wrote: Tanks getting +damage against shields? What? Er, no. Thanks, but no, thanks. Can't argue with this kinda reasoning. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
Yeah, I think it's good to try out. I mean, mech is not viable against toss as it is. | ||
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SOWxDISCORD
Brazil15 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Oh, please. Spare me your EZ mode mech fetish. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:52 xAdra wrote: Yeah, I think it's good to try out. I mean, mech is not viable against toss as it is. Why should it be viable? Apart from the panting longing for BW Mech? Terran also has a unit that can be produced in multiple numbers that is able to destroy Protoss shields. And now you want another? Which already also does considerable damage, especially to armoured on top of that? Think about it for a while, and you'll see why it's another one of those ideas that sound nice, but are really, just more than a little silly. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:02 aZealot wrote: Oh, please. Spare me your EZ mode mech fetish. Oh the irony coming from a protoss player. On June 12 2013 12:04 aZealot wrote: Why should it be viable? Apart from the panting longing for BW Mech? Terran also has a unit that can be produced in multiple numbers that is able to destroy Protoss shields. And now you want another? Which already also does considerable damage, especially to armoured on top of that? Think about it for a while, and you'll see why it's another one of those ideas that sound nice, but are really, just more than a little silly. Clearly colossi shouldn't deal splash damage, protoss has templar for that. | ||
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AKA.
76 Posts
When you see an army of Marines and Widow Mines, it comes down to the skill of the players in that specific battle." I spit out my drink when i read this. They think the reason you don't know how a widow mine related battle will turn out (in relation to tank/thor) is because of the terrans ability to apply SKILL???? The widow mine hits (unless microd with a trick thats almost never used even by innovation) a random (from the terrans point of view) target that can either kill one zergling, or like infinity banelings. How in gods name is that a more skill intensive result than siege tank target fire?????? | ||
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
hellbats! | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:04 aZealot wrote: Why should it be viable? Apart from the panting longing for BW Mech? Terran also has a unit that can be produced in multiple numbers that is able to destroy Protoss shields. And now you want another? Which already also does considerable damage, especially to armoured on top of that? Think about it for a while, and you'll see why it's another one of those ideas that sound nice, but are really, just more than a little silly. Because we want to diversify play? Is that wrong? Would you like to be back in the days when protoss had to go robo every game or die instantly? Saying that marauders take that role is stupid: would you go marauder/tank? Units that have different upgrades? I'm no terran player, but it's obvious that bio and mech are completely different playstyles. While bio players want constant harass and aggression, relying on micro and mechanics to stay on even footing, mech players utilize decision making and positioning to a greater extent. By allowing mech against protoss, you make the game more interesting. Let's ask a different question: why are you so violently adverse to the idea of making mech more viable? Apart from the panting longing for ladder points against terran? | ||
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Elldar
Sweden287 Posts
warp gate gives the protoss instant reiforcement, larva inject let the zerg create new armies instantly and mule let the terran have better economy then the other races(less workers needed for the same eco as the other races). These mechanics is all imbalanced given certain situations which makes for flimsical gameplay. on topic though I can not see how widow mines require as much skill to use as to play against. Only real microing that can be going is reburrowing, retargetting is not something any good terran can do without neglecting something else. Maybe you can retarget 1-3 wm in battle but that is pushing it (if all terran did so every battle would be bad for the zerg). Reburrowing just make the terran tantrum from beta that zerg should bait widow mines shots with a few lings obsolete or not as great. On a side note the most boring match-up is ZvP to play on ladder, the toss either does some weirdass all in with 1 or 2 bases Or they sit on there asses while getting void rays then 1-a at some point unless you hit a nice hydra timing. Just a ridicolous match-up right now. Widow is less random then the toss cheeses imo. | ||
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