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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:17 sluggaslamoo wrote: Breaking news, Blizzard has just discovered something that everyone wanted since Beta. + Show Spoiler + Now replace the Colossus No. Everyone says they want it but will kick up a shitstorm if any changes are made that make the game more difficult for them. The only thing that people actually want is easy wins. | ||
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Muggs
United States148 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Danzo
2820 Posts
On June 12 2013 09:02 Waxangel wrote:
uh what? I feel like we're missing an explaination of how this is skill and not random I almost feel like it was back words lol. | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
do you really think about before you vote are you just all really .....? | ||
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JIJI_
United States123 Posts
WoL at the end Terran was insanely UP almost to the point where you were wasting your time playing the game as Terran. Nerfing the mine into the ground so people will make tanks will just make tons of terran's quit or switch races. Nerf the mine and hellbat into the ground (like every toss and zerg players wants.....big suprise! lol) and you have WoL terran (which was already terrible at the end) and a toss and zerg that are much stronger due to new ultras, new mutas, mothership core, SH, new void ray, tempest, oracle, vipers. I think toss and zerg players especially are so used to just steam rolling terran that now terran is winning again it makes them angry. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
So our question here becomes “is this a good thing that Widow Mines have replaced Siege Tanks as the primary splash damage units?” We believe the answer is yes. When you see an army of Marines and tanks clash with a Zerg army, you pretty much know who will come out ahead, even before the battle. When you see an army of Marines and Widow Mines, it comes down to the skill of the players in that specific battle. I think he's pushing this point far too far. The difference in tank usage from low master to pro level is night and day, in terms of their usefulness on the map and in engagements | ||
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:40 JIJI_ wrote: Terran needs the widow mine. WoL at the end Terran was insanely UP almost to the point where you were wasting your time playing the game as Terran. Nerfing the mine into the ground so people will make tanks will just make tons of terran's quit or switch races. Nerf the mine and hellbat into the ground (like every toss and zerg players wants.....big suprise! lol) and you have WoL terran (which was already terrible at the end) and a toss and zerg that are much stronger due to new ultras, new mutas, mothership core, SH, new void ray, tempest, oracle, vipers. I think toss and zerg players especially are so used to just steam rolling terran that now terran is winning again it makes them angry. zerg was hard to play against bc of the infestor, so now wouldn't be as bad now that infestors are as worthless as shit. And you're kidding right? terran dominated the sc2 scene for a good 2 years until the patchzerg era | ||
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either I or
116 Posts
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JIJI_
United States123 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:46 skylarr wrote: zerg was hard to play against bc of the infestor, so now wouldn't be as bad now that infestors are as worthless as shit. Infestor is hardly "worthless as shit." I see it in almost every TvZ I play that goes into late game. You just need to anticipate where your opponents units will be and aim it similar to the ghost. My point is all terran got was mines and hellbats......nerfing them both to the ground like most zerg and toss players want so they can get easy wins will make it WoL Terran against a buffed toss and zerg that got tons of things. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5219 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:18 larse wrote: I hope David Kim has this mentality for Terran as well. Terran's tech options are very limited in one matchup. Most higher tier units are useless. Why doesn't he address this as well? Marines and Marauders address most of the issues Terran has. It isn't dynamic or exciting, but it has made Terran by far the most successful race in SC2. For this reason, David Kim has no reason to mess around with Mech. Clearly HOTS was a (near, HOTS lifecycle isn't complete) complete failure when it came to making Mech viable. All it ended up doing was killing the Siege Tank in TvZ and adding in Hellbats and Widow Mines to compliment Bio. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
So rather than dealing with the actual problems, they're having a look at fucking SWARM HOSTS?! Without swarm host/mass static defence, there is literally no way for Zerg to take on Protoss in the late game once they have their death army of colossus/ht/voidray. God damn it. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:49 JIJI_ wrote: Infestor is hardly "worthless as shit." I see it in almost every TvZ I play that goes into late game. You just need to anticipate where your opponents units will be and aim it similar to the ghost. My point is all terran got was mines and hellbats......nerfing them both to the ground like most zerg and toss players want so they can get easy wins will make it WoL Terran against a buffed toss and zerg that got tons of things. Yes, now that fungal's a skill shot,no complaints can be made about a good fungal. And no one suggests that hellbats and mines to be rendered useless. It's just that it's a problem when zerg has to all in every game vs terran. Dont you think? | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
On June 12 2013 08:47 Koshi wrote: Playing zerg vs terran became much more intense for me in HotS due to the widow mines. I really like that you just can't a-move at all anymore. I agree that they shouldn't be adjusted. finally. someone who understands | ||
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ultrik
United States7 Posts
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
Looks like someone's troll detection mechanism is failing | ||
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skylarr
Canada209 Posts
On June 12 2013 11:13 ultrik wrote: I find it funny that zerg say widow mine require no skill when mine requires much much more skill than baneling or ultra. planting a mine and having the offchance of it doing tons of damage sounds really skillful. | ||
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Albinoswordfish
United States108 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
I think they could try introducing more buffs as opposed to nerfs. Like something that will majorly shake up the game, such as Tanks getting +damage against shields, or stalkers having better upgrade scaling but longer blink cooldown. It would be really cool, especially the former which will make mech viable. If mech were viable, TvP as both a viewer and a player would be diversified so much, it would seem like an all new sc2. | ||
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