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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
June 07 2013 11:01 GMT
#161
Can still read it here:
http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/former-qa-and-gm-spills-blizzard-secrets
#1 Terran hater
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 07 2013 12:09 GMT
#162
On June 07 2013 09:03 Gaizokubanou wrote:
I don't get this complaint about these big companies not listening to feedback... when feedback itself is just so diverse and the fanbase itself is arguing among themselves. You must not be reading the forums (the irony man) to think that community feedback is some unified hivemind voice of reason.

The problem with feedback is that it is coming in a different set of colors, BUT there are usually different types of quality to it. Remember when we had a "hot topic" about dynamic unit movement? Blizzard even tried it and then said that it didnt change much ... which clearly shows that they completely missed the point of the exercise!

Some feedback (criticism) is well reasoned and logically explained and yet they totally refuse to act upon it. An example is my very own "Stalkers vs Marines" problem, where one Stalker can fight against three Marines well, but as soon as the numbers increase the Stalkers will lose without extra gadgets like Forcefield and Blink. Since these require skill to use and that skill isnt available in the same amount across all levels of the ladder it is a bad design that needs to be changed. There is no one who will argue with the gameplay comparison of the two units at low and high number count and that only leaves the conclusions to make. The only logical one is that the numbers of units in a certain area of the battlefield need to be limited by some method (kinda like BW did it). Forcefield has been an ultra powerful spell so far and yet there is no equivalent "crutch" for the two other races. This makes them unequal in the skill required to play and thus it needs to be changed ... and yet they totally ignore the problem ...

tl;dr
Smart people can split feedback into "valid criticism" and "mostly junk" and "for fun" sections easily from the posts.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Elldar
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 13:29:43
June 07 2013 13:24 GMT
#163
On June 07 2013 09:11 Chronos. wrote:
Like other have said, this really does just sound like an angry ex-employee.

Also, I think his answer to why Starcraft 2 took so long was really misguided. The reason they always take so long to release games is because of their ridiculously high standard of quality. For example, here's a quote I read on gameinformer a week ago about why they cancelled Starcraft: Ghost:

"Pardo said that the company felt internally that it was an 80-85 game. According to Pardo, the company had no desire to release a game of that quality."

If a company is making sure that all their games are essentially going to be guaranteed to be getting at least 9/10's from reviewers consistently, their games are going to take a damn long time. Plus, it's Blizzard.


It was probably a 40/100 game and that's why it was scrapped. No game-company would totally scrap a game that was bound for a mere 80/100 which would probably gain some income for all that hardship and cost of actually creating the game. You should take that qoute with a pinch of salt.

Personally why no inside information about Blizzard is disclosed is probably of the contract they have with Blizzard which would prevent laid-off personal to say anything about future projects and whatnot or risk huge fines. Which is pretty standard for such companies. That person seem to have some knowledge about blizzard innards to be honest if you read the posts. So she probably has some information about blizzard and is probably who she says she is.

Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 07 2013 13:40 GMT
#164
This sounds like he is bitter..
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
June 07 2013 13:42 GMT
#165
Guy sounded a bit salty about getting laid off to be honest. Reading about blizzard and the business itself from an inside perspective was still interesting though.
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synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
June 07 2013 13:43 GMT
#166
On June 07 2013 07:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 07:37 synd wrote:
SC2 devs superiority complex, perfectly describes why none of the community feedback changes anything in the game.

Person pretends that they're from Blizzard and shits all over employees, community believes it. Perfectly describes why SC2 devs don't listen to the community.

He says good and bad things. Most of the stuff he said can be confirmed by other Blizz people.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 07 2013 13:44 GMT
#167
What do you know, sc2 devs are the worst ones apparently
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 13:48:52
June 07 2013 13:46 GMT
#168
This person is really silly for burning bridges like this.
If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with everything he knows as soon as he jumps ship.

This guy seems really really stupid the more I read.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 07 2013 13:50 GMT
#169
Somehow most if not all WoW fans who have met Metzen only tell good things about him from what I heard.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
June 07 2013 13:53 GMT
#170
--- Nuked ---
Orangered
Profile Joined June 2013
289 Posts
June 07 2013 13:59 GMT
#171
thanks for this
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 14:02:10
June 07 2013 14:00 GMT
#172
On June 06 2013 23:32 Assirra wrote:
This honestly just smells like a fired person venting about his previous employer.


On June 07 2013 22:53 zeru wrote:
This person simply sounds bitter for getting fired and is giving the community the answers they want to hear.


How often do people really do that when their employers were really great to them though?
I'm not inclined to believe this is just malevolent spin.

There are just as many (or a similar number of) die-hard Blizzard fans that will assume it is what you say it is as there are people looking to grumble about Blizzard.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
June 07 2013 14:01 GMT
#173
On June 07 2013 22:46 PassiveAce wrote:
This person is really silly for burning bridges like this.
If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with everything he knows as soon as he jumps ship.

This guy seems really really stupid the more I read.


No kidding.

"GRARR, DID YOU KNOW THAT ENTRY-LEVEL PEOPLE WITH FEW SKILLS ARE REPLACEABLE!? GRAAA"
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 07 2013 14:01 GMT
#174
1 former employee and look at the impact, lol.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Elldar
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden287 Posts
June 07 2013 14:01 GMT
#175
On June 07 2013 22:46 PassiveAce wrote:
This person is really silly for burning bridges like this.
If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with [b] everything he knows[\b] as soon as he jumps ship.

This guy seems really really stupid the more I read.


Sorry, but what do you mean with everything she knows? She mostly talks about her experience with Blizzard and her thoughts of the company, there is no insider information. Of course companies does not like if ex-employees talks about them publictly without their knowing about it. To her the ship is already burnt and she does not seem like going into the any game company after Blizzard and there is no onesided bashing either. You are more one-sided in your perception of the posts than the ex-employee posts are of Blizzard.

Though the qoutes that got posted on TL seem really grumpy, and depicts the sc2 devs as "mostly dicks".
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 14:07:37
June 07 2013 14:05 GMT
#176
^Talking about the faults of the company and employees (on a massive public forum) after leaving is pretty fucking stupid and il tell you why.
Because the next company she applies for will look at this and say "wow, I dont want to have to deal with this down the road"

She ommitted some of the things that could get her sued like specifics on the titan project, but its still really dumb.

And its not like this applies only to the video game industry, ANY company that sees something like what she wrote up will think twice about hiring her.

Im not even saying anything she says is wrong or innacurate, im just saying that it is really dumb of her to post it all publicly.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 07 2013 14:08 GMT
#177
On June 07 2013 23:01 Elldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 22:46 PassiveAce wrote:
This person is really silly for burning bridges like this.
If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with [b] everything he knows[\b] as soon as he jumps ship.

This guy seems really really stupid the more I read.


Sorry, but what do you mean with everything she knows? She mostly talks about her experience with Blizzard and her thoughts of the company, there is no insider information. Of course companies does not like if ex-employees talks about them publictly without their knowing about it. To her the ship is already burnt and she does not seem like going into the any game company after Blizzard and there is no onesided bashing either. You are more one-sided in your perception of the posts than the ex-employee posts are of Blizzard.

Though the qoutes that got posted on TL seem really grumpy, and depicts the sc2 devs as "mostly dicks".


Because most people with critical reading skills would pass it off as pretty much biased noise after reading it, then you got people who are nodding their heads in agreement after each passing sentence and puts this AMA as some kind of definitive justification for their own dissatisfaction.

As for the burning bridges, this isn't restricted to a game company. Whether those bridges actually matter is one thing, but to pretend things like this only happen in a game company, this person would be even more naive than they would seem in this AMA.
Get it by your hands...
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 07 2013 14:19 GMT
#178
On June 07 2013 23:01 Elldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 22:46 PassiveAce wrote:
This person is really silly for burning bridges like this.
If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with [b] everything he knows[\b] as soon as he jumps ship.

This guy seems really really stupid the more I read.


Sorry, but what do you mean with everything she knows? She mostly talks about her experience with Blizzard and her thoughts of the company, there is no insider information. Of course companies does not like if ex-employees talks about them publictly without their knowing about it. To her the ship is already burnt and she does not seem like going into the any game company after Blizzard and there is no onesided bashing either. You are more one-sided in your perception of the posts than the ex-employee posts are of Blizzard.

Though the qoutes that got posted on TL seem really grumpy, and depicts the sc2 devs as "mostly dicks".


Well as they say... if the condom fits.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
June 07 2013 14:28 GMT
#179
Kind of interesting, but obviously extremely biased.

This person is clearly not to pleased about being let go. It is also worth noting he/she was QA and a WoW GM. Which is to say he/she doesn't know a damn thing about actually making a video game (design/programming). Their opinion isn't worth a whole lot more than the average fan's. And if you know anything about the gaming industry, QA is pretty close to the bottom of the totem pole.

This is sort of like asking what the secretary or janitor thinks of the executives and professionals of a company. You're probably not going to get an objective and balanced opinion.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
_Search_
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada180 Posts
June 07 2013 14:29 GMT
#180
I'll say that working with SC2 devs can be challenging because they don't tend to want to listen to your suggestions. They can also come across as quite dickesh because they feel they can do no wrong. Mind you there are some very nice devs on that team that actually give a shit, but some of the more "esteemed" devs have a superiority complex for sure.


I really don't understand why this is so surprising. Everything I've seen from Kim/Browder speaks of unquestionable arrogance.
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