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On June 07 2013 23:29 _Search_ wrote:Show nested quote +I'll say that working with SC2 devs can be challenging because they don't tend to want to listen to your suggestions. They can also come across as quite dickesh because they feel they can do no wrong. Mind you there are some very nice devs on that team that actually give a shit, but some of the more "esteemed" devs have a superiority complex for sure. I really don't understand why this is so surprising. Everything I've seen from Kim/Browder speaks of unquestionable arrogance.
DB is really humble judging from various interviews if you ask me.
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On June 07 2013 23:29 _Search_ wrote:Show nested quote +I'll say that working with SC2 devs can be challenging because they don't tend to want to listen to your suggestions. They can also come across as quite dickesh because they feel they can do no wrong. Mind you there are some very nice devs on that team that actually give a shit, but some of the more "esteemed" devs have a superiority complex for sure. I really don't understand why this is so surprising. Everything I've seen from Kim/Browder speaks of unquestionable arrogance.
Those guys are practically christlike compared to greg street and the other mongoloids doing WoW balance.
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On June 07 2013 23:08 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 23:01 Elldar wrote:On June 07 2013 22:46 PassiveAce wrote: This person is really silly for burning bridges like this. If he wants to get work in this industry again he will have a tough time if the company ever sees that hes the kind of person that goes to reddit with [b] everything he knows[\b] as soon as he jumps ship.
This guy seems really really stupid the more I read. Sorry, but what do you mean with everything she knows? She mostly talks about her experience with Blizzard and her thoughts of the company, there is no insider information. Of course companies does not like if ex-employees talks about them publictly without their knowing about it. To her the ship is already burnt and she does not seem like going into the any game company after Blizzard and there is no onesided bashing either. You are more one-sided in your perception of the posts than the ex-employee posts are of Blizzard. Though the qoutes that got posted on TL seem really grumpy, and depicts the sc2 devs as "mostly dicks". Because most people with critical reading skills would pass it off as pretty much biased noise after reading it, then you got people who are nodding their heads in agreement after each passing sentence and puts this AMA as some kind of definitive justification for their own dissatisfaction. Of course a person's opinion is biased. You will have a rather unconsidered life if every time you hear a person's opinion that you disagree with, you call them naive and "biased" - as though the existence of a person with an opinion that you disagree with somehow gives more credence to you. When the choice is as simple as having less information or more information, I would rather have more information so I'm glad there is a place for AMAs.
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QA folks hate devs devs hate QA folks nothing new
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Eh, I'll take this with a grain of salt.
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If there weren't clear problems with SC2, WOW and D3 you could say she was just bitter. But that isn't the case now is it?
I mean when she's says the guys at Blizzard thought Dota was a joke, so they didn't jump on the idea...opening the door for valve, hon and LoL, you can't really call that being bitter.
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On June 08 2013 00:20 KingAce wrote: If there weren't clear problems with SC2, WOW and D3 you could say she was just bitter. But that isn't the case now is it?
I mean when she's says the guys at Blizzard thought Dota was a joke, so they didn't jump on the idea...opening the door for valve, hon and LoL, you can't really call that being bitter.
Whether they said Dota was a joke or not, I bet they are smacking themselves for not jumping on that lol. You also have too look at just how untouchable Blizzard was up until the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me if there are some arrogant devs at Blizzard, but it's not like it wasn't justified or anything.
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People really need to relax.. and read the whole damn thing first. If she's 'pissed off and venting' she wouldn't have more nice things to say than otherwise. And yeah, obviously you take what is being said with a grain of salt. Don't we all do the same thing when Blizzard head developers open their mouths?
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On June 08 2013 00:27 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 00:20 KingAce wrote: If there weren't clear problems with SC2, WOW and D3 you could say she was just bitter. But that isn't the case now is it?
I mean when she's says the guys at Blizzard thought Dota was a joke, so they didn't jump on the idea...opening the door for valve, hon and LoL, you can't really call that being bitter. Whether they said Dota was a joke or not, I bet they are smacking themselves for not jumping on that lol. You also have too look at just how untouchable Blizzard was up until the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me if there are some arrogant devs at Blizzard, but it's not like it wasn't justified or anything.
That was justified several years ago with SC:BW, WC3, D2, and the earlier days of WoW.
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On June 08 2013 00:31 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 00:27 AnomalySC2 wrote:On June 08 2013 00:20 KingAce wrote: If there weren't clear problems with SC2, WOW and D3 you could say she was just bitter. But that isn't the case now is it?
I mean when she's says the guys at Blizzard thought Dota was a joke, so they didn't jump on the idea...opening the door for valve, hon and LoL, you can't really call that being bitter. Whether they said Dota was a joke or not, I bet they are smacking themselves for not jumping on that lol. You also have too look at just how untouchable Blizzard was up until the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me if there are some arrogant devs at Blizzard, but it's not like it wasn't justified or anything. That was justified several years ago with SC:BW, WC3, D2, and the earlier days of WoW.
Exactly.
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On June 08 2013 00:20 KingAce wrote: If there weren't clear problems with SC2, WOW and D3 you could say she was just bitter. But that isn't the case now is it?
I mean when she's says the guys at Blizzard thought Dota was a joke, so they didn't jump on the idea...opening the door for valve, hon and LoL, you can't really call that being bitter.
Hindsight is 20/20. Free to play was a joke in 2009 and was associated with Zynga, facebook and farmville. The Wii was king of the world and we all bought 2 copies of Rockband because we loved it. Everyone was talking about how facebook games and motion control were the future and Xbox live was the answer to online gaming. Sony was hated by gamers and Steam was this weird thing that you played TF2 on and kind sold games. Twitch TV did not exist and we all read RSS feeds. Starcraft 2 was released one year later in July, 2010, and we all thought the marauder was totally IMBA.
In 2013, Zynga is going bankrupt and closing offices, Free to play LoL is the new WoW and Steam made everyone love or ignore DRM. Rockband is done, motion controls are played out and streaming is amazing. The Wii is done, the Wii U is a joke and Sony is looking like they could recapture the hearts of games. Also, Iphones and Ipads have market shares that rival gaming consoles. We all player games on our PC with Xbox controlers or hook them up to our TVs. We also watch twitch on our TV, iphone and Xbox. Twitter is massive and Idra was trending world wide when he was left go from EG
Blaming Blizzard for not being able to accurately predict the future that none of us knew as coming is a little silly. Its easy for us now, because we can just look back and say "Oh its so obvious, how could you not see that coming?"
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That's true but at the same time, Dota did have a giant playerbase even as a simple mod for Warcraft 3.....Surely they could have seen the draw to it, and surely they could have predicted there would be some developers out there that would take that formula and run away with success.
But your point is valid, the rapid evolution (or trends) the internet has brought about, that is pretty hard to predict. Specifically the gaming industry is in an extremely volatile state right now, and there is a massive saturation of me-too! devs that are flooding each genre with their own clones, which really diminishes the value of the originals. I guess I'm thinking of WoW when I say that. There are an insane amount of WoW clones that have gone free to play, and I imagine it has hurt the enthusiasm people once had for MMOs.
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On June 08 2013 01:01 AnomalySC2 wrote: That's true but at the same time, Dota did have a giant playerbase even as a simple mod for Warcraft 3.....Surely they could have seen the draw to it, and surely they could have predicted there would be some developers out there that would take that formula and run away with success.
But your point is valid, the rapid evolution (or trends) the internet has brought about, that is pretty hard to predict. Specifically the gaming industry is in an extremely volatile state right now, and there is a massive saturation of me-too! devs that are flooding each genre with their own clones, which really diminishes the value of the originals. I guess I'm thinking of WoW when I say that. There are an insane amount of WoW clones that have gone free to play, and I imagine it has hurt the enthusiasm people once had for MMOs.
And the massive failure of those MMOs to capture the audience of WoW is the reason we don't see tons of LoL clones. There are a few that are out their, but most of them have fallen flat, with the exception of Dota 2. The fact of the matter is that companies are likely to fail chasing the success of others. Blizzard has watched EA and every other major publisher in the world fail in amazing ways while chasing the success of WoW. There is no reason for them to do the same with LoL.
And Blizzard is working on Blizzard all-stars, which I bet is going to be linked into the spawning feature they just released, the desktop battle.net and Hearthstone. I can see a lot of cross over with people coming for one and then getting pulled into the other games. But the whole idea that Blizzard is going to flip the F2P button on SC2 is just silly. I just isn't that simple or even proven that it would be a good idea.
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Is there any proof? The guy sounds way too immature to be working for Blizzard.
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On June 08 2013 01:17 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2013 01:01 AnomalySC2 wrote: That's true but at the same time, Dota did have a giant playerbase even as a simple mod for Warcraft 3.....Surely they could have seen the draw to it, and surely they could have predicted there would be some developers out there that would take that formula and run away with success.
But your point is valid, the rapid evolution (or trends) the internet has brought about, that is pretty hard to predict. Specifically the gaming industry is in an extremely volatile state right now, and there is a massive saturation of me-too! devs that are flooding each genre with their own clones, which really diminishes the value of the originals. I guess I'm thinking of WoW when I say that. There are an insane amount of WoW clones that have gone free to play, and I imagine it has hurt the enthusiasm people once had for MMOs. And the massive failure of those MMOs to capture the audience of WoW is the reason we don't see tons of LoL clones. There are a few that are out their, but most of them have fallen flat, with the exception of Dota 2. The fact of the matter is that companies are likely to fail chasing the success of others. Blizzard has watched EA and every other major publisher in the world fail in amazing ways while chasing the success of WoW. There is no reason for them to do the same with LoL. And Blizzard is working on Blizzard all-stars, which I bet is going to be linked into the spawning feature they just released, the desktop battle.net and Hearthstone. I can see a lot of cross over with people coming for one and then getting pulled into the other games. But the whole idea that Blizzard is going to flip the F2P button on SC2 is just silly. I just isn't that simple or even proven that it would be a good idea.
Well there are an awful lot of LoL clones, or at least similar mobas, that are already out and more are coming out. It's hard to imagine there is room for more than Dota 2 or LoL, but we will see I guess :D
If history is to repeat itself, all it will do is burn people out on the entire genre, and people will be starving for something new.
The gaming industry is by FAR the worst with getting fixated on one good idea that sells well, and I think that is a big part as to why it is in a bit of crisis right now.
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Sad, but iam not surprised.
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People talking about "her". Did he/she say who he/she is? All the posts are deleted now ...
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Not really familiar with reddit, but I'm looking at it and it looks like his responses have been deleted? Anyone archive that?
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She may have gotten worried about a "Knock it off" letter from Blizzard.
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colossus still in the game, i believe this person.
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