EPTSC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 29
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On June 06 2013 05:50 Grumbels wrote: No, it tells us that the players are very close to each other in skill. And in my opinion if two players are considered for the top spot then you give the title to the person that is the ace of the best proleague team and that has the positive head to head and that won the finals. If only out of tradition. I re read my post and you are correct I worded that badly which may cause confusion, it should have read "a 4-3 result in BO7 tells us almost nothing about who is the better player, other than that it might be close". Ace of the best proleague team does not seem relevant, the best player on the worst team could be the best player in the world. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On June 06 2013 05:58 rysecake wrote: It's not exactly proleagues fault though. They can't help being the premier league in korea. Judge by the audience, i really wouldn't say that. also, If you can't deliver in BO series, then you are obviously not one of the best players. Rain at least accomplish an OSL, even long ago. Flash has accomplished nth in both WOL and HOTS. And i see it continue for a while. And yet, he ranked 3 in the power rank. So lets say flash was in semifinal in OSL would make him obviously the No.1. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On June 06 2013 05:58 rysecake wrote: It's not exactly proleagues fault though. They can't help being the premier league in korea. That is a big claim but who suddenly decided that? No doubt this was true in BW but how did it suddenly raise so big in sc2? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 06 2013 05:53 ROOTT1 wrote: top 4 spots are a no brainer, 5 to 10 is debatable. if the power rank was more skillbased as opposed to result-oriented i wouldnt have hero or symbol in the top 10. fantasy should have gotten a consideration and jangbi should have been no10 instead of hero, that being said heros been putting up some solid results lately. all in all its a pretty solid list Fantasy, seriously? LOL you are insane dude and I'm a SKT fan | ||
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
edit: and by should have gotten a consideration i mean he should have been in the "Close But No Cigar" category | ||
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Emzeeshady
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:30 ROOTT1 wrote: ??? lol fantasy and ty are the 3rd/4th best t's atm edit: and by should have gotten a consideration i mean he should have been in the "Close But No Cigar" category 17-15 (53.13%) that is his win rate in HOTS, 9 wins - 8 losses (52.94%) in PL specifically. It says more about how there are barely any good T's in PL than Fantasy being good. | ||
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
ok and flash had 2 terrible pl rounds in a row(he had close to a 20-30% winrate), your point being? before ty had his breakout round i had to convince newbs like this guy about how good he is. ull understand in time On May 04 2013 00:07 crazyweasel wrote: you should listen to ppl who placed higher than you every round so far. Hyvaa isnt so good, the only reason he gets points is because hes stx's main zerg so of course he gets playtime. while cure vs ty, if we just look at WoL + hots stats cure has been more solid and he has way better chances to get a multi kill (1-2-3) since hes a starter for t8 + the facts thats hes best terran on t8. while effort vs hero you know hero is more consistant. TY at 3 pts is only worth on proleague format when he can both play and ACE. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Emzeeshady
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:32 Dodgin wrote: have you seen fantasy's games? If that's top 10 in the world material I don't even know what to say. 4th best T in PL doesn't even make you a top 10 player in PL with all the Z/P around, never mind top 10 in the world including WCS. 17-15 (53.13%) that is his win rate in HOTS, 9 wins - 8 losses (52.94%) in PL specifically. It says more about how there are barely any good T's in PL than Fantasy being good. seems like your having trouble reading my post, i never said he should be in the top 10. not at the moment at least | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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1raxexpand
United States165 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:23 Assirra wrote: That is a big claim but who suddenly decided that? No doubt this was true in BW but how did it suddenly raise so big in sc2? Kespa fanbois decided that it is a premier league obviously | ||
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:45 Dodgin wrote: I read your post, he shouldn't be in the " close but no cigar " category because he's not close. his record is bad, his games look bad. I'd love to see him look good but he doesn't look good. ah ok, so your one of those dudes(95% of tlers) who just waits for someone to win a gsl or go on a huge winstreak before calling them good. takes alot of knowledge to do that | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:49 ROOTT1 wrote: ah ok, so your one of those dudes(95% of tlers) who just waits for someone to win a gsl or go on a huge winstreak before calling them good. takes alot of knowledge to do that no, I've watched all his games and I think he plays poorly. especially his macro, It's just awful. there's a reason you're the only one in the entire thread lobbying for a spot for him on the list. | ||
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TT1
Canada10035 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:54 Dodgin wrote: there's a reason you're the only one in the entire thread lobbying for a spot for him on the list. ill agree with u on that | ||
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Jealous
10314 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:49 1raxexpand wrote: Kespa fanbois decided that it is a premier league obviously It's been the premier league forever, and nothing has changed. It's not just about KeSPA or ProLeague itself even. It's teamleagues. Team Leagues have always gotten more attention in Korea both from the players and the people. Why? Because it's about the collective success. Every player has the added pressure of not letting down his/her team. Some players have even mentioned that they had to sacrifice individual practice time for team leagues. I find it hard to believe that anything has changed just because the platform is different; the mentality is the same. Just as you derisively say "Kespa fanbois decided that it is," I can say that "ESF SC2 noobie fanbois decided that it isn't," but that's not an argument at all. I at least have history and facts to fall back upon. The skill level is certainly high calibre; just look at the GSL finalists, what league do the play in? Or is GSL a faulty measure of skill now too? Please. | ||
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Emzeeshady
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