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CrashD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States40 Posts
May 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#1401
my fav NA zerg by far... Will miss him..
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:44:58
May 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#1402
On May 10 2013 09:40 Puph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:33 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:28 Puph wrote:
This is stupid. Tell me, who was NOT aware that IdrA believes we are Twitch.tv chat spamming pieces of shit? Because we are. This is what we do. We crowd in IdrA's channel and shout obscenities. I don't see a problem with IdrA calling us out on it because if we did not see it, we would be blind.



That's exactly Idra's mistake that cost him his job. Not such a smart move to generalize and assume that "all" people are the same, is it?

Kind of like stereotyping don't you think?

We aren't all "fucks" that spam stream-chats. Most of us don't even use stream-chats. Most of the community are not trolls. Most of the community is actually a mature, genuinely interested audience.

Teams like EG don't want to alienate their customers. It's like owning a bakery and telling customers that walk in "you are a fat fuck, can't believe you eat my pastries HAHA" . . .


Stereotyping? The majority of the feedback he receives is likely in his twitch chat, take any man and submit him to this and I won't be surprised with the outcome. is it that far of a stretch to assume he is speaking of a minority? because last I checked, minorities have observable qualities too.

anyhow, i feel like the butthurt is much too high. not only for the offended community but the idra fan boys as well. is what he said THAT far off from what he always says? what we have tolerated for so long? kind of a joke to call it now, in my opinion. Obviously we are all free to hold opinions on the matter, and I am certain they will be varied, what with such a touchy topic.


You really don't get the analogy do you. I'll state it again:

It's like owning a bakery and telling customers that walk in "you are a fat fuck, can't believe you eat my pastries HAHA" . . .

It doesn't take much awareness to realize that the 300 people in your freaking "stream-chat" are not representative of the community.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
May 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#1403
As a business owner myself, I saw this coming quite literally from day one. Eventually there was going to be a point where his BM exceeded his results for a period of time, and at that point he would not longer be an asset. He was such an ass some of the time, that I honestly thought he was just playing the "heel" as they do in wresting, but apparently he is this way all the time.
myasQo
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:44:40
May 10 2013 00:43 GMT
#1404
after wcs us games - i agree.
idra need asylum.
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Shoxy
Profile Joined June 2011
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:44:51
May 10 2013 00:44 GMT
#1405
Esports needs people like IdrA. Quite simply because the general population of the world are more similar to IdrA than anyone would like to admit. I watch and follow Greg because I have a similar view and mindset. If someone is a noob, no skill cheeser, I'm going to call them one. IF a game wasn't good, I'm not going to GG, why should I, because it's "manner"? who gives a shit, I'm not going to lose any sleep, neither will they.

If you think a person deserves to lose his team, and basically his livelihood, simply because of things he said, and his "manners" then freedom of speech is truly dead.

If esports degenerates into a bunch of circle jerking, let's hold each other's hands even though we're opponents, let's all love each other and be nice bunch of hippies, I don't want anything to do with it, and I"m pretty sure I'm not alone.

Plus you're all a bunch of pussies. BAD move by EG.

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ash88
Profile Joined November 2010
13 Posts
May 10 2013 00:44 GMT
#1406
On May 10 2013 09:39 SniXSniPe wrote:
LOL @ you actually trying to point the blame on the community as if it itself is the cause of IdrA's bad luck.

Not even legitimate of an excuse for him.

People start hating on him as a result of his actions. Why does nobody hate on someone like Innovation? Because obviously he doesn't act as verbally abusive as Idra.

HMMM, I wonder why the community does that? It's not like Idra hasn't called people a waste of life:

<lots of links>


I don't think anyone, including us "fan boys" would disagree that Idra is insultive, and abrasive. Your links are a good/entertaining reminder of that.

However, you could go on to prove he murdered kittens, and that doesn't invalidate the point that the community is toxic to the players.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 10 2013 00:44 GMT
#1407
Suppy is the new 'murican hope
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
May 10 2013 00:44 GMT
#1408
I didn't understand why Idra called his own teammate a piece of crap when he knew both their streams were live. Not that that is the reason or anything, but it sort of reflects a general trend for him.
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1409
Nice, I hate EG slightly less now. Still don't like them but it's a positive I guess.

As for IdrA, good. I had to stop myself from posting a few things in recent days after his comments and honestly I hope he just quits SC2 and goes to do something completely different with his life --- we don't need someone toxic like him in the community to encourage the childish trolls. Isn't Destiny done with SC2 as well? Maybe the community will start to mature a bit with the 2 most terrible influences gone. I know there are a few others that are outspokenly toxic but no one on either of their levels.

He hasn't been relevant as a player in over a year so it's not a big loss for EG or fans of the game
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MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1410
On May 10 2013 09:40 Diks wrote:
I'm sad, Idra was like THE iconic player from EG.
This company is called Evil Genius for god's sake.



well they have the dong for alittle bit but people who don't know broodwar or watch korean leagues don't know/care about Jaedong.
we all hope to be like whitera one day
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1411
HOLY SHIT BALLS
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:46:05
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1412
Quite a shock, it's hard to imagine EG and Idra without eachother.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1413
On May 10 2013 09:19 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
I might get burned for this, but I really don't care..

The amount of hate towards Greg is pathetic, really really pathetic.

"He deserved it", sure, he said things that were crossing the line, done things that were deemed bad mannered.. But the community riding him for his attitude since the very beginning surely hasn't helped him either. The guy tried to work on his attitude, getting professional help and when he cursed even once after people knew about him getting professional help, most of you were like "It's not helping, still so bm" blablabla, the community kept on riding him and honestly, those who call Greg toxic, look at the community as a whole first.

The community consists of hypocrites, morons.. And people are talking about making e-sports as big as any other professional sport? Gl with that, especially with the kind of community sc2 has..

When it comes to his words about the community.. can't help but agree with the lad.


I totally agree on this one, esp. with the hypocrit part. Brace yourself and get out the pitchforkes.

I love players like stephano, naniwa and idra because they acutally have charakter. You need the good charakters like grubby but you also need players like idra, that creates awesome story lines. Haters gonna hate.
dashiz
Profile Joined August 2010
Costa Rica193 Posts
May 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#1414
ROOT.IdrA ? LOL
Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1415
Some weep.

Some cheer.

Thorzain is a spoon.

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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1416
On May 10 2013 09:38 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:33 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:27 KristofferAG wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:25 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:18 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:16 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:03 Redox wrote:
Never understood what the big deal about him was. he was not a factor competetively for a long time. Yeah sometimes he did some "funny" antics, but that was about all he brought to the table.
He's a Broodwar legend among foreigners. He's like the foreigner Boxer. Even when he's not really competitive, there's a huge community that follows his every step.


Except Boxer made a significant contribution to esports.

Idra did the exact opposite.

Idra sacrificed his life in America to live in Korea in a professional team house and practice 24/7 at a time when the foreign Broodwar was long past its bright sparks (like Grrrr... and ElkY). His dedication has inspired many people.

He was just as annoyingly whiny in BW, and people were just as split about him back then as they were now. Maybe even more, considering he was one of few foreign faces ever in the Korean scene.
But of course he was whiny and controversial back then too, he's Idra, after all. Doesn't change the fact he was the most relevant foreigner for some time.

Without a doubt, he racked up some seriously impressive achievements, and he does deserve some respect, but still not even remotely comparable to BoxeR in the big, esports picture. Hell, I'd say someone like Grrr..., Elky and Legionnaire rank higher in that regard, though they were all in a completely different period of time.
Of course Idra has not accomplished as much as Grrrr... etc in terms of strictly comparable results in Korea (not even close), but what he did was at a lot more developed time and it was very valuable for that. And the comparison to Boxer is only in terms of having a great following and legacy to this day. Even when painted in negative light (quite often), Idra is remembered.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1417
On May 10 2013 09:40 Diks wrote:
I'm sad, Idra was like THE iconic player from EG.
This company is called Evil Genius for god's sake.

Idra never struck me as evil, more like angry, emotional and maybe mean. Neither did he seem to be a genius, in fact his in-game decisions were some of the worst from any pro-player.

In any case evil genius is just a name, and not what they look for in a player. Do you think Fnatic looks for fanatics? Liquid looks for people with abnormal liquid intake? Axiom looks for mathematicians or logicians? IM looks for miracles? MVP only cares about getting the MVP award? TSL only wanted players who lived like an scv?
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1418
On May 10 2013 09:44 Shoxy wrote:
Esports needs people like IdrA. Quite simply because the general population of the world are more similar to IdrA than anyone would like to admit. I watch and follow Greg because I have a similar view and mindset. If someone is a noob, no skill cheeser, I'm going to call them one. IF a game wasn't good, I'm not going to GG, why should I, because it's "manner"? who gives a shit, I'm not going to lose any sleep, neither will they.

If you think a person deserves to lose his team, and basically his livelihood, simply because of things he said, and his "manners" then freedom of speech is truly dead.

If esports degenerates into a bunch of circle jerking, let's hold each other's hands even though we're opponents, let's all love each other and be nice bunch of hippies, I don't want anything to do with it, and I"m pretty sure I'm not alone.

Plus you're all a bunch of pussies. BAD move by EG.


Freedom of speech... CRY ME A RIVER. The things IdrA does would cost him any job in the real world, and the fact that EG even put up with him for this long was ridiculous.

You didn't call the entire SC2 community "a bunch of fucks"
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1419
On May 10 2013 09:41 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:38 KristofferAG wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:33 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:27 KristofferAG wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:25 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:18 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:16 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:03 Redox wrote:
Never understood what the big deal about him was. he was not a factor competetively for a long time. Yeah sometimes he did some "funny" antics, but that was about all he brought to the table.
He's a Broodwar legend among foreigners. He's like the foreigner Boxer. Even when he's not really competitive, there's a huge community that follows his every step.


Except Boxer made a significant contribution to esports.

Idra did the exact opposite.

Idra sacrificed his life in America to live in Korea in a professional team house and practice 24/7 at a time when the foreign Broodwar was long past its bright sparks (like Grrrr... and ElkY). His dedication has inspired many people.

He was just as annoyingly whiny in BW, and people were just as split about him back then as they were now. Maybe even more, considering he was one of few foreign faces ever in the Korean scene.
But of course he was whiny and controversial back then too, he's Idra, after all. Doesn't change the fact he was the most relevant foreigner for some time.

Without a doubt, he racked up some seriously impressive achievements, and he does deserve some respect, but still not even remotely comparable to BoxeR in the big, esports picture. Hell, I'd say someone like Grrr..., Elky and Legionnaire rank higher in that regard, though they were all in a completely different period of time.


You're talking two different things. IdrA's contribution wasn't results or persona, it was outreach. Many more people know of IdrA than Boxer. Hell, my gf knows IdrA but hasn't heard of Boxer (or perhaps heard the name when MKP wore it ). Whether you like this or not is irrelevant.


Idra more popular/more known than boxer? that's funny, maybe if you talk about the american scene or w/e but in korea he's more popular/known than idra ever could hope to be .
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worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
May 10 2013 00:46 GMT
#1420
yeah i think this is a terrible move by EG.

to me, Idra WAS EG. Sure he hasnt been performing well of late. But I feel that he's done so much for the image and branding of EG so far. The first 'big' sign-up. And IdrA, fault him as you will. He has personality. He's a rare individual in that he doesnt need to be liked with the community (and it's better that he's not liked!). He just needs to get on the with the game.

Disappointed by EG in this. I feel it's releasing him more for his results than anything else though.
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