Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 61

Maasked

United States567 Posts

May 10 2013 00:03 GMT

#1201

Honestly I am surprised people didnt see this coming for a long time. Idra has refused to dedicate himself to improvement in any way for probably a year now. It is blatantly obvious he doesn't care about the game. In fact I wouldnt doubt that the only reason he has played at all the last few months is to stream to keep his team happy, he was simply sitting back and taking the money.
He was becoming toxic to the community and to his team. If he wasn't released now, I'm sure EG wouldn't have renewed his contract.
As for people wondering about Machine and Incontrol, they do more than just act as players for the organization, Incontrol specifically puts on a HUGELY positive PR side for the team, he also commits himself to becoming a better person at playing, commentating, etc.
Its the fact that Idra just didnt try anymore that makes me glad he is gone.

FrogOfWar

Germany1406 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1202

On May 10 2013 09:00 invisigoat wrote:
Release the Gracken!!!!

touché ...

disinfect

Sweden65 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1203

Who's idra anyway? He hasn't produced anything special for over 1 1/2 years. Anyway, that's a somewhat silly reason to fire him. It's way worse when he acts like a dick before, during and after tournament games. Oh, no.. he called the community a bunch of fucks! Quick! Call the waahbulance! No one cares. No one was offended. What is offensive is when he doesn't GG in tournaments like he did against Polt yesterday. I hope it was for some other reason.

c0ldfusion

United States8293 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1204

I still can't believe how cynical some of you are. Are we forgetting that when Idra joined EG he was the de facto best foreigner in the world? And arguably a top 10 SC2 player in general. Prior to him joining EG, their roster consisted of inControl, LzGamer, InkA, StrifeCro and axSlav. Enough said.

EG, as we know it today, was built, in no small part, on the back of Greg's renown and results during the early days of SC2.
And this is how Alex Garfield chose to show his gratitude? It's a cut-throat world.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1205

On May 10 2013 09:00 Thinasy wrote:

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Yeah I'm not sure whether to laugh or not. League of Legends community is a subreddit which is about 50x times more toxic then TL then include the players inside the game.

On-topic: I actually really believed this thread was a troll even after reading the OP. Man was I shocked

Every post i've seen so far that hates EG for this has been like 1-10 post count people, what the hell is going on

At first I thought it was a troll because of no link to the official site (originally dunno if it has it now). Very surprising.

skeldark

Germany2223 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1206

With combatX ignored, destiny gone and now idra gone,
who will fill the empty place of the
"Living joke of sc2" ?

llIH

Norway2143 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1207

Release the Kraken

Savagewood

United States84 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1208

Good luck Greg!

MaeStrO.OrtSeaM

13 Posts

May 10 2013 00:04 GMT

#1209

Still hoping for a free vod of SOTG with InControL.

PiQLiQ

Sweden702 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1210

Wow I'm quite surprised. O_O

dddoushio

81 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1211

On May 10 2013 09:04 skeldark wrote:
With combatX ignored, destiny gone and now idra gone,
who will fill the empty place of the
"Running joke of sc2" ?

WCS America

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1212

On May 10 2013 08:44 Chise wrote:

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He still received an offer a couple of years ago by TL, but decided to join EG. Your point?

Back then he came fresh from a several year long period on a Kespa-team, and while he was still getting banned every now and then from TL due to his BM and stuff, there was still hope for him behaving in a somewhat professional manner. However, since then he has time and time again shown a clear lack of said professionalism and respect for organisers, fans, and the community.

It should be noted that neither you, me, nor anyone else posting in this thread atm really have any idea what is actually going on behind the scenes, but I would be absolutely shocked like never before if TL announced they're picking up Idra. It would be awesome since I'm a fan of both TL and Idra, but I just don't see it happening. At all.

Cyrak

Canada536 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1213

On May 10 2013 08:58 jinorazi wrote:
i'd rather this be a community of few hardcore well mannered people rather than hordes and hordes of bm encouraging/loving children.

possibility losing popularity in eu/am by ridding of "bm"?

i couldnt care less, i can survive with proleague and korean casting alone.

Someone misses Brood War!!

Vindicare605

United States16100 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1214

On May 10 2013 09:04 c0ldfusion wrote:
I still can't believe how cynical some of you are. Are we forgetting that when Idra joined EG he was the de facto best foreigner in the world? And arguably a top 10 SC2 player in general. Prior to him joining EG, their roster consisted of inControl, LzGamer, InkA, StrifeCro and axSlav. Enough said.

EG, as we know it today, was built, in no small part, on the back of Greg's renown and results during the early days of SC2.
And this is how Alex Garfield chose to show his gratitude? It's a cut-throat world.

They've been more than lenient as far as I'm concerned. Idra kept fans away from EG as easily as he attracted them. EG earned themselves at least one new fan today with this move, in the end their fanbase is diverse and broad and this releasing won't come back to hurt them.

yowza

Finland210 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1215

Dude was a douche for years and made no efforts to improve his behaviour (unlike for example, naniwa, who has become a completely different person in public). His talent, or lack of, wasn't enough to redeem his awful attitude.

Good riddance.

PhoenixDark

United States286 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1216

Good fucking riddance

RHoudini

Belgium3627 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1217

On May 10 2013 08:52 Honeybadger wrote:

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Telling people to grow up and then using the term "titties in a knot" is really, really ironic.

Professionalism is severely important in the professional world. Do you walk up to complete strangers and just start ridiculing them? Do you insult your friends in mean, hateful and hurtful ways (not in jest, either)? Of course not. Am I supposed to let my staff make inappropriate comments to or even ABOUT members in public?

Professionalism is the reason society exists. BM and posts like yours are more demonstrative that this sport is still filled with children. Do you think Boxer's handshake with every oppnnent, or Idra's childish insulting fans and temper tantrums, is going to do more to overturn the general opinion of "angry nerds in their basement?"

Defending a jerk does not validate being a jerk yourself

So true. I'm a 40+ year old business owner and have always wondered how an organization like EG can tolerate insulting and unprofessional behavior of key individuals in the organization.
Releasing IdrA is a sure sign that this whole eSports business thing is growing up.

Ravensong170

United States858 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1218

SO is this in response to a single event? or a multitude of events? (I can understand their decisions, cause they can't do it on results, cause they have plenty of people who do literally nothing)

I haven't followed Idra in about a year(outside of major tourney performances). so I'm out of the loop on his antics.

AwesomeFossum

United States312 Posts

May 10 2013 00:05 GMT

#1219

On May 10 2013 09:03 Thinasy wrote:

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On May 10 2013 09:02 LuckoftheIrish wrote:

On May 10 2013 09:00 Thinasy wrote:

On May 10 2013 08:57 holy_war wrote:

On May 10 2013 08:51 realityyy wrote:
The sc2 community is "not good" to say it politely. The community puts way too much focus on the "entertainment"-side of a player and as soon as someone does something slightly questionable he gets hated so badly for it. For example the ddos incident with stephano shows how high the hating can peak (its not ordinary, but still very alarming to me). Also, the players you meet in ladder make IdrA look like the politest man in the world. The last "gg" I received was combined with a "fu**er". Plus, i actually dont feel like a part of a community. We play the same game, but I dont feel a "together" at all. Could be a personal thing though. The last point I want to mention is viewers on streams, being the community. The chats of a large number of streams reflects a massive immaturity, being filled with trolls and offending people, not representing that much of a support to esports. So I think IdrA criticizing the community is a good move to me, cause he's one of the few ones that mentions that without fearing to lose money cause a part of that "community" could stop "supporting" esports by bringing money to the companies. I hope he gets a new team that at least in some way still believes in the spirit of esports, not the spirit of money. Cause thats the impression I got from EG the last months and finally with this act. So let me finish this post with a final example of how grown up the community is. ( I hope the picture is fine, please delete if someone has a problem with it )

Leauge of Legends is your example of a "grown" community? Wow, just wow.

I think you misunderstood. I'm pretty sure that picture is intended to illustrate the problems with the community, not its successes. Of course, it's a different game and a different scene, so it's wholly beside the point. Still. He's not holding the LoL community up on a pedestal; rather, he's using them as an example of what not to do.

Yeah I might have misunderstood it, if so im sorry for that

Just FYI - it's the red lights in the shape of "something". (Top right of picture)

Epishade

United States2267 Posts

May 10 2013 00:06 GMT

#1220

Idra shows absolutely no respect to the community or the people he plays against. Although for some, this behavior draws interest, I find it most cancerous to Starcraft players and tournaments. He should have been let go sooner for his completely disrespectful actions to most everyone he plays against.

I will say though, I still hadn't expected this. Especially because he was kicked off because of a post he made on TL, instead of something he did at a tournament.

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