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Evil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 59

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AwesomeFossum
Profile Joined February 2013
United States312 Posts
May 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#1161
On May 10 2013 08:56 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:51 Ysellian wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:49 tubs wrote:
I watched the ragequit versus Polt in WCS and laughed like crazy. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary - that's the Idra most of us are used to. If EG booted him for that, it doesn't make any sense. Haven't gone through the other 50 pages in this thread or loaded SoTG on time, so if it was for something else, ignore this.


The Polt thing wasn't the issue. It was the comment he made here on TL that preceded it that made it all look really bad.


what did he say?


www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411483&currentpage=4#73
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
May 09 2013 23:56 GMT
#1162
holy fucking shit
133 221 333 123 111
gh0st
Profile Joined January 2010
United States98 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1163
It was unfair and also not very smart to have Incontrol on SotG when he learns of Idra's dismissal. Unfair because clearly Inc and Idra are close buds. Not the brightest move because you don't know how Inc is going to react to that information on a live stream... Having a public blow-up over a personnel decision is the same class of bad publicity as Idra's posts... That said, Inc seems like the consummate pro, and showed a fair bit of restraint from what I saw. Poorly handled by the team, though, imo.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1164
On May 10 2013 08:44 Chise wrote:
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On May 10 2013 08:39 Masq wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised, but I doubt his comment is the reason he was removed from EG. As many have said, this is typical Idra being Idra. I think the real issue is that he is no longer considered a top foreigner and people are probably tired of covering up his shit while putting up no results.


While Idra certainly isn't a top foreigner anymore he still makes a lot more money for himself (and evil geniuses) than a lot of players because he is popular. Releasing Idra is probably not the right decision for EG in terms of money, so I think their statement makes sense.

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On May 10 2013 08:42 Holgerius wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Liquid`IdrA

Yeah... not gonna happen. He goes against all principles that TL stand for.


He still received an offer a couple of years ago by TL, but decided to join EG. Your point?


Maybe the situation isn't the exact same as a couple of years ago?
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1165
How ironic is it that a post arguing that player personality is more important than skill in promoting e-sports, using Idra as Exhibit A, has actually been the catalyst for his downfall? And the cause of that downfall being the very controversial personality endorsed in that post.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1166
On May 10 2013 08:54 Thieving Magpie wrote:
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On May 10 2013 08:52 Defacer wrote:
Honestly, IdrA brought a lot of attention to EG but that attention has gotten increasingly negative, with diminishing returns.

Think about it. Would EG be stereotyped as this 'BM, bad-boy, money-grubbing corporation' if IdrA wasn't on the team? Probably not.

It's time for EG and IdrA to evolve away from each other.


They'd be labeled bad boys if Idra and Stephano were winning as often as they used to or gave Koreans a run for their money like they used to.


Yes. Like I said in the other thread, EG is branding themselves as 'the badass' team.

There's nothing 'badass' about quitting a broadcast tournament game with a max army and 2000/2000 banked.

They gave IdrA a million chances to change his attitude. Time to move on.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1167
On May 10 2013 08:56 ninjamyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:51 Ysellian wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:49 tubs wrote:
I watched the ragequit versus Polt in WCS and laughed like crazy. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary - that's the Idra most of us are used to. If EG booted him for that, it doesn't make any sense. Haven't gone through the other 50 pages in this thread or loaded SoTG on time, so if it was for something else, ignore this.


The Polt thing wasn't the issue. It was the comment he made here on TL that preceded it that made it all look really bad.


what did he say?


http://i.imgur.com/FgezXgU.jpg

holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 09 2013 23:57 GMT
#1168
On May 10 2013 08:51 realityyy wrote:
The sc2 community is "not good" to say it politely. The community puts way too much focus on the "entertainment"-side of a player and as soon as someone does something slightly questionable he gets hated so badly for it. For example the ddos incident with stephano shows how high the hating can peak (its not ordinary, but still very alarming to me). Also, the players you meet in ladder make IdrA look like the politest man in the world. The last "gg" I received was combined with a "fu**er". Plus, i actually dont feel like a part of a community. We play the same game, but I dont feel a "together" at all. Could be a personal thing though. The last point I want to mention is viewers on streams, being the community. The chats of a large number of streams reflects a massive immaturity, being filled with trolls and offending people, not representing that much of a support to esports. So I think IdrA criticizing the community is a good move to me, cause he's one of the few ones that mentions that without fearing to lose money cause a part of that "community" could stop "supporting" esports by bringing money to the companies. I hope he gets a new team that at least in some way still believes in the spirit of esports, not the spirit of money. Cause thats the impression I got from EG the last months and finally with this act. So let me finish this post with a final example of how grown up the community is. ( I hope the picture is fine, please delete if someone has a problem with it )

[image loading]


Leauge of Legends is your example of a "grown" community? Wow, just wow.
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:00:18
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#1169
Is there a summary of events somewhere? I got the feeling from tweets and stuff around his WCS NA performance that something had happened, but I don't actually know what happened.

Edit: Nvm, answered right above me :D
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 23:59:13
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#1170
i'd rather this be a community of few hardcore well mannered people rather than hordes and hordes of bm encouraging/loving children.

possibility losing popularity in eu/am by ridding of "bm"?

i couldnt care less, i can survive with proleague and korean casting alone.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#1171
Words cannot express my emotions at hearing this news.

I'm being vague on purpose.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
durrrrr
Profile Joined August 2012
Bulgaria106 Posts
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#1172
any vod of incontrols reaction?
durrrrr?
c0ldwinter
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States238 Posts
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#1173
wtf... . best of luck anyways IdrA. Always have been a loyal fan despite hardships
rouzga
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23 Posts
May 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#1174
So they keep InBronzeControl and InSilverMachine but get rid of their biggest fanbase? wtf

User was temp banned for this post.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#1175
I wonder if IdrA leaving the scene would have a noticeable negative impact on the SC2 viewership.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
May 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#1176
Well I was always an Idra fan and will continue to suport him, EG... shame on you =P
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 00:01:42
May 10 2013 00:00 GMT
#1177
On May 10 2013 08:57 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:51 realityyy wrote:
The sc2 community is "not good" to say it politely. The community puts way too much focus on the "entertainment"-side of a player and as soon as someone does something slightly questionable he gets hated so badly for it. For example the ddos incident with stephano shows how high the hating can peak (its not ordinary, but still very alarming to me). Also, the players you meet in ladder make IdrA look like the politest man in the world. The last "gg" I received was combined with a "fu**er". Plus, i actually dont feel like a part of a community. We play the same game, but I dont feel a "together" at all. Could be a personal thing though. The last point I want to mention is viewers on streams, being the community. The chats of a large number of streams reflects a massive immaturity, being filled with trolls and offending people, not representing that much of a support to esports. So I think IdrA criticizing the community is a good move to me, cause he's one of the few ones that mentions that without fearing to lose money cause a part of that "community" could stop "supporting" esports by bringing money to the companies. I hope he gets a new team that at least in some way still believes in the spirit of esports, not the spirit of money. Cause thats the impression I got from EG the last months and finally with this act. So let me finish this post with a final example of how grown up the community is. ( I hope the picture is fine, please delete if someone has a problem with it )

[image loading]


Leauge of Legends is your example of a "grown" community? Wow, just wow.


Yeah I'm not sure whether to laugh or not. League of Legends community is a subreddit which is about 50x times more toxic then TL then include the players inside the game.

On-topic: I actually really believed this thread was a troll even after reading the OP. Man was I shocked

Every post i've seen so far that hates EG for this has been like 1-10 post count people, what the hell is going on
Jaedong & Faker
invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
May 10 2013 00:00 GMT
#1178
I can't believe they actually did that o_O ..............................................Liquid Grack that would b the biggest troll ever
SnM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
May 10 2013 00:00 GMT
#1179
I lost all respect for EG they way they did this and went about it. EGIdrA helped with the EG name...and deff put evil into it...I wont be rooting for EG anymore :/
SayNoMore
invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
May 10 2013 00:00 GMT
#1180
Release the Gracken!!!!
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