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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On May 10 2013 21:54 KarlKaliente wrote: Source? Or do you have any more details to that. Classy move though. Incontrol mentionned it in SotG, I don't recall any additional info regarding that. | ||
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BillHicks
Germany8 Posts
Maybe its best for him to just retire, or take some break from this game. | ||
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raser
Norway301 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:12 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Incontrol mentionned it in SotG, I don't recall any additional info regarding that. No he said they would probably help him in the transition period. | ||
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Usernameffs
Sweden107 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote: Lets face it : He was dead in the water. Polt kept deniing his expansions, had the same amount of expansions, had the better armycomposition and already transitionied to skyterran. All idra would be doing if polt doesnt fuck up is running around over the map with a fairly immobile army clearing out drops before he would be smashed in a desperate attempt on polts middle base. The bad thing about this is, that he never went for a final engagment because if polt fucks up big time (just like heart in the suppy game) he still might have had a shot. BUt that isnt idras mindset, idra doesnt expect polt to fuck up and that is why he left. Idra has the terrible mindset (and it is not hard to get that with zerg) that once he is behind he cant catch up and he doesnt realize that his opponents are also human. Just like suppy won against heart, in 999games out of 1000 heart wins this. But yet suppy at least TRIED. The point a lot of people are missing is that idra wasnt AHEAD or EVEN, he also wasnt behind a LITTLE, he was incredibly behind. Being 200/200 on ultra broodlord means shit if you keep getting your bases denied whereas the terran is on 5+ bases with the better composition/position and the nearly completed skyterran transition. He missed his opportunty to cursh polts middle base when he had the lead. He didnt do it and then polt just played his hand well. If he could get enough bank for a second remax he can always win doesn't matter if Polt has 10k min 10k gas in the bank and 20 pfs. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Mentos
United Kingdom203 Posts
To be honest I never understood why he gained so much attention, there are far more deserving players you should donate your hard earned cash to, not someone who basically openly takes a dump on your heads. Time for a reality check people, just because someone knows how to be rude, doesn't mean that he has a unique personality, it's actually the exact opposite. | ||
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote: Lets face it : He was dead in the water. Polt kept deniing his expansions, had the same amount of expansions, had the better armycomposition and already transitionied to skyterran. All idra would be doing if polt doesnt fuck up is running around over the map with a fairly immobile army clearing out drops before he would be smashed in a desperate attempt on polts middle base. The bad thing about this is, that he never went for a final engagment because if polt fucks up big time (just like heart in the suppy game) he still might have had a shot. BUt that isnt idras mindset, idra doesnt expect polt to fuck up and that is why he left. Idra has the terrible mindset (and it is not hard to get that with zerg) that once he is behind he cant catch up and he doesnt realize that his opponents are also human. Just like suppy won against heart, in 999games out of 1000 heart wins this. But yet suppy at least TRIED. The point a lot of people are missing is that idra wasnt AHEAD or EVEN, he also wasnt behind a LITTLE, he was incredibly behind. Being 200/200 on ultra broodlord means shit if you keep getting your bases denied whereas the terran is on 5+ bases with the better composition/position and the nearly completed skyterran transition. He missed his opportunty to cursh polts middle base when he had the lead. He didnt do it and then polt just played his hand well. That's my point! He could have just suicided his immobile BL/ultra/infestor army and either go: 1) an extremely mobile muta/ling/bling composition to combat the slow skyterran unit comp, sniping production/tech, or 2) a pressure style mass Swarm Host/viper/hydra with spine forest composition which is very hard for raven based skyterran composition to break; he already HAD ENOUGH BANK TO SWITCH to either one! Edit: formatting. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:13 raser wrote: No he said they would probably help him in the transition period. Ok, my bad D: | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
You'll fit our community really well. | ||
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1RR3
Finland5 Posts
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thenanox
Spain73 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:06 tomatriedes wrote: The thread title should really have been 'Evil Geniuses releases the Gracken'. you won sir | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
How long was left on his contract anyway? | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:22 RogerShah wrote: IdrA is 23, his best years have passed. I think he will retire. It is a really good thing for you that I'm not a moderator on this forum. You're just like a cockroach. When the house is on fire you come crawling out of the woodwork to chew away at someone when they are down. Go back inside your hole, Idra is going to put this fire out. User was warned for this post | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:16 Hattori_Hanzo wrote: That's my point! He could have just suicided his immobile BL/ultra/infestor army and either go: 1) an extremely mobile muta/ling/bling composition to combat the slow skyterran unit comp, sniping production/tech, or 2) a pressure style mass Swarm Host/viper/hydra with spine forest composition which is very hard for raven based skyterran composition to break; he already HAD ENOUGH BANK TO SWITCH to either one! Edit: formatting. No, not at this stage of the game, polt was already set up and was ahead on bases, there was no way idra would have gotten the time/money to build up a massive spinecrawler forest and transition to catzzerg. ONly works when you prepare it really early and when you trade off that ultra broodlord army decently (which is unlikely). Idra wouldnt have gotten a decent trade with polt anymore, let alone the fact that polt had more income and killed 2 expansions of idra. Mobile army doesnt cut it against a terran with a shitload of orbitals, whould should he kill? Some workers? Polt would thank him for that. But i agree, he should have at least give it a shot, mb if polt fucks up and he gets an unexpected decent trade he is still in the game. But idras mindset doesnt allow it. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:22 RogerShah wrote: IdrA is 23, his best years have passed. I think he will retire. It makes me feel really old when you put '23' and 'retire' in the same sentence -__- | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:16 Mentos wrote: idra has always been mediocre when compared to true pro-gamers and relied on his bad manners to get noticed. To be honest I never understood why he gained so much attention, there are far more deserving players you should donate your hard earned cash to, not someone who basically openly takes a dump on your heads. Time for a reality check people, just because someone knows how to be rude, doesn't mean that he has a unique personality, it's actually the exact opposite. Yeah, ranking 27th in the world as far as earnings is pretty average. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:08 Sokrates wrote: Lets face it : He was dead in the water. Polt kept deniing his expansions, had the same amount of expansions, had the better armycomposition and already transitionied to skyterran. All idra would be doing if polt doesnt fuck up is running around over the map with a fairly immobile army clearing out drops before he would be smashed in a desperate attempt on polts middle base. The bad thing about this is, that he never went for a final engagment because if polt fucks up big time (just like heart in the suppy game) he still might have had a shot. BUt that isnt idras mindset, idra doesnt expect polt to fuck up and that is why he left. Idra has the terrible mindset (and it is not hard to get that with zerg) that once he is behind he cant catch up and he doesnt realize that his opponents are also human. Just like suppy won against heart, in 999games out of 1000 heart wins this. But yet suppy at least TRIED. The point a lot of people are missing is that idra wasnt AHEAD or EVEN, he also wasnt behind a LITTLE, he was incredibly behind. Being 200/200 on ultra broodlord means shit if you keep getting your bases denied whereas the terran is on 5+ bases with the better composition/position and the nearly completed skyterran transition. He missed his opportunty to cursh polts middle base when he had the lead. He didnt do it and then polt just played his hand well. He was not "Dead in the water". I'm actually quite confused by this post. You open it up by saying(paraphrasing) "There was no chance to win for idra", then go on to say "Well Suppy was far behind yet still made a comeback"(Suppy was actually a lot further behind than Idra, though admittedly Heart is also a lot worse player than Polt) and then end off with "200/200 zerg army doesn't matter". It's full of contradictions. Idra was far behind, he had a very strong army, he made a ton of mistakes in the lategame that got him from being very far ahead to behing far behind. If there is one army that can make a comeback its infestor BL army. He needed a good engagement and quite frankly for Polt to make a mistake. Rather than playing it out, he decided to take a 100% chance of a loss rather than lets say 85% chance of a loss. I really don't understand people that defend him for leaving that game. I do agree he was behind, but when you have a full army(even higher resource army) and a bank, you atleast play it out. People often preemptively GG, but that is usually just when they have no army and the opponent is moving in for the kill, or a toss gets DTs into your base and you have no detection even close to being ready. Everything else is just ruining the viewing experience for people and not representing your team/sponsors well at all. Tbh I wouldn't even have minded WCS fining him for that(Edit: This is ofc assuming there is some clause about sportmanship for playing in WCS). | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:16 Mentos wrote: idra has always been mediocre when compared to true pro-gamers and relied on his bad manners to get noticed. To be honest I never understood why he gained so much attention, there are far more deserving players you should donate your hard earned cash to, not someone who basically openly takes a dump on your heads. Time for a reality check people, just because someone knows how to be rude, doesn't mean that he has a unique personality, it's actually the exact opposite. I can identify with this post. In my experience at least, people who are truly gentle and kind are much rarer than people who are asshats. | ||
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