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Nis
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore45 Posts
May 10 2013 12:27 GMT
#2901
I dont get the number of sympathies in this thread for IdrA. There is a line between been arrogant and been contemptuous, and while arrogance is fine, especially if you have the results/skills to back it, Idra is downright contemptuous for the community / most of his fellow progamers. Why people support someone who holds them in utter contempt is just mind boggling.While I definitely didnt see it coming since EG have been tolerating his shit for years, it is a good move by EG. Sends a message across that popularity doesnt mean you can do whatever the hell you want with zero consequences.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
May 10 2013 12:33 GMT
#2902
well...time to move on. GL HF for EG and IdrA
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
May 10 2013 12:33 GMT
#2903
On May 10 2013 21:24 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:18 ALPINA wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??


There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort.


You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."?

I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame?

He went 4 base before lair on Daybreak and got himself into a huge lead against Polt. Polt didn't play particularly well at the start(not expecting such insane greed I suppose) as he meet more army than he expected. Eventually this lead into idra getting ultras, bls, infestors, corruptors.

Polt kept sniping the 12 oclock(6th base). Idra pushed to Polts 4th(he had a 5th too, I think it was not scouted at all), but with a PF and insane patienience and positioning Polt just waited for idra to make a move(while sniping the 6th and getting viking/raven count up to counter idras air).

Polt had essentially stabalised and was in very good position, but idra had 3k/3k banked and had better army supply(atleast he did a bit earlier). Idra backed off, Polt sniped his 5th and idra quit maxed out with 3k/3k after playing a terrible lategame.

Edit: I mean this game probably effected their decision heavily, but I think it was rather the post and idra immaturity as of late. I mean his argument with Demuslim probably doesn't help, as atm I'd say Demu is probably EGs best player(atleast if Stephano doesn't show his skill once more).


Thanks for analysis.

Either way his attitude towards winning games is very bad. As a team you want him to win games even if there are very little chances to win (Nestea anyone?) and IdrA's insta gg in many games is unacceptable imo.

And that post he made, well... i would say either of those reasons is enough to kick him out of the team. He is good guy who practices a lot, but he will never change he attitude.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
May 10 2013 12:35 GMT
#2904
On May 10 2013 21:23 prplhz wrote:
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On May 10 2013 21:08 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
On May 10 2013 20:43 prplhz wrote:
I don't like this at all.

This single comment doesn't bring anything new, he didn't lose a fain or gain a hater that he wouldn't have lost or gained otherwise. He is simply being who he has always been.

Firing him because of this single incident is dumb because it's nothing new, firing him because of all the incidents is dumb because IdrA is IdrA and they knew that when they signed him. He'd publicly been IdrA for years before EG signed him. If they didn't want him to do these kinds of things then why didn't they put it in his contract that he wasn't allowed to hurt the image of EG? Alexander Garfield saw a good deal and he jumped at it and now for some reason he wants to get out of it.

It's ironic how IdrA is getting sacked for telling the truth that is: he's getting paid for telling the truth. Alexander Garfield is acting all like "I had nothing to do with this" but what IdrA says is completely true: one of the big reasons EG hired him in the first place was because of his personality and Alexander Garfield knew about his behavior all along. He wanted his cake and he wanted to eat it too, he wanted IdrA's personality but he didn't want to take any of the fallout.

IdrA gave his best years to EG and now EG tries to squeeze the last drop out of him by the attention surrounding his firing. They didn't just let his contract expire, they made a big deal out of how he's getting fired for some vague and dumb reason. InControl said that EG also takes some care of their players after they let them go and I like that but I don't like this firing at all.


He's a prize horse that's past its prime, idrA's Achievements in SC2
He hasn't won anything in the last 3 quarters since August'12.
All this while being rude to not only the opponent, the game itself and now to everyone.

There was a line in the sand, he crossed it two fields ago.

1st, he failed to adapt to the new meta with its new units and dynamics. There is no longer 1 build fits all. HotS is now as dynamic as chess.


You can lose any time in Heart of the Swarm if you are not prepared for it.
Which is why, I believe led to idrA becoming increasingly frustrated and erratic, and led to being subsequently a liability to EG itself. Back in beta, I could already see it coming, idrA never used the new units in the Zerg arsenal, if he lost to the new units or BO based on new units, new unit compositions, he'd lose his shit and cuss everyone out.

Which leads to the 2nd point,
It got tiring fast, especially when the MU were pretty random and he was facing Korean pros losing and cussing them and Blizzard for imba as well as winning against obvious noobs bragging about being superior out.

Let's face it, it is entertaining watching drama from a tool. But it is tiring seeing the same complaints over and over by losing to an obviously superior opponent, and equally tiring to hear the same self praise by beating an obviously inferior opponent.

Needless to say, the act got tiring, which I believe leads to his continued drop on his viewership numbers. Especially when he started to say he hates the game itself, the final straw obviously for anyone trying to bring food on the table for everyone in the team including managers and coaches would be calling the fans "fucks" and being paid to do it.

Add in the recent tantrum, (from second hand information) dropping a decent game vs. Polt in a high profile tournament, you have a good formula of "How to get your ass fired in 7 days."

If they're firing people for being bad at StarCraft then other people on EG who would be more worthy of getting fired. They're not though, if you read the OP then IdrA's skills and achievements are not been mentioned at all.

Your idea that IdrA has become a liability for EG because he's getting increasingly frustrated with the HotS metagame is hilarious.

IdrA has called a lot of people a lot of things, he's always done that, it isn't something new. Being bad mannered has always been part of his "charm".


ORLY? Which part of using WoL builds in HotS beta THE WHOLE TIME entertaining? Back in the final months of the beta I spent two hours watching idrA play, he banned folks from his channel for even suggesting using a new unit (roach/hydra/viper)!

That's the thing about BM, it's entertaining at times, people tolerate/enjoy it when BMer is winning like a boss, like how Andre Agassi was back in his 20s and how he could get away with stunts that could have gotten a lesser tennis player banned for life.
Cauterize the area
Afxx
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom10 Posts
May 10 2013 12:35 GMT
#2905
@ Nis
What about naniwa ? he is also downright contemptuous for the community / most of his fellow progamers. That cant be denied, but IdrA has down more for the communities growth then naniwa but no one bashes nani.

Glhf Greg maybe you can go away and sort yourself out maybe come back to starcraft one day mentally better.
Goodnight sweet Grack
ShinsoEU
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria92 Posts
May 10 2013 12:35 GMT
#2906
Finally.
Only the strong survive, I got the scars to prove it.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 12:40:10
May 10 2013 12:39 GMT
#2907
On May 10 2013 21:35 Afxx wrote:
@ Nis
What about naniwa ? he is also downright contemptuous for the community / most of his fellow progamers. That cant be denied, but IdrA has down more for the communities growth then naniwa but no one bashes nani.

Glhf Greg maybe you can go away and sort yourself out maybe come back to starcraft one day mentally better.
Goodnight sweet Grack

How manytimes has naniwa changed his team? He was kicked out/ left from dignitas, quantic, complexity maybe im missing some


Also i dont recall him being quite as bm as idra. His 6 probe rush against nestea was bull but i think he never leaves when he isnt dead in the water and he also usually ggs out.
HpplVgn
Profile Joined December 2012
27 Posts
May 10 2013 12:39 GMT
#2908
On May 10 2013 20:22 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 20:21 Abominous wrote:
On May 10 2013 20:17 RyF wrote:
If Idra starts streaming again his viewer count will be higher than any Sc2 player ever had before.

Idra will prolly smile and think: "Only bad news are good news."

So much attention for a player who did not show any decent results for a long time. His self marketing is just incredible...

I'd like to see him beating 14k achieved by Stephano. That's the most I've seen.


IdrA had 20k+ once or twice



When Jaedong first posted his stream he peaked 25k viewers =)
dunkincrsip
Profile Joined April 2013
10 Posts
May 10 2013 12:42 GMT
#2909
well idra is not plaing well at the moment either, and really the only thing that made his personality attractive and entertaining to begin with was that he was one of the best players in the world while release. theres a difference between basically the best foreigner being rude and edgy or some mid tier american pro being extremely rude and edgy. i hope idra either reaches old shape and glory or quits the game completely. with his personality (which i love btw) there can be no in between
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2013 12:45 GMT
#2910
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 10 2013 12:47 GMT
#2911
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

That's a terrible scenario.
TyrianSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 12:51:06
May 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#2912
After listening to Geoff on SotG and reading into the events, all I can say is best of luck to Greg, and I don't think the StarCraft eSports community will really be the same without him. I'm choosing not to speak on his actions, as the rest of the community has really done this already and I'm in agreement with Geoff's comments on SotG regarding what happened and how the decision was made. I'm sure this is a very difficult time for Greg and everyone over at EG equally. Nobody over there went to bed last night feeling good about what happened. I hope everyone is able to make peace of out this resolution.

Good luck Greg, and good luck EG
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
May 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#2913
On May 10 2013 21:35 Afxx wrote:
@ Nis
What about naniwa ? he is also downright contemptuous for the community / most of his fellow progamers. That cant be denied, but IdrA has down more for the communities growth then naniwa but no one bashes nani.

Glhf Greg maybe you can go away and sort yourself out maybe come back to starcraft one day mentally better.
Goodnight sweet Grack


Naniwa has results. It's a big difference.

Anyways, Alliance.idra #soon
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#2914
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

And you expect him to behave any different then?
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#2915
Those 'release the gracken' T-shirts seem even more apt now >_>
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#2916
On May 10 2013 21:35 Afxx wrote:
@ Nis
What about naniwa ? he is also downright contemptuous for the community / most of his fellow progamers. That cant be denied, but IdrA has down more for the communities growth then naniwa but no one bashes nani.

Glhf Greg maybe you can go away and sort yourself out maybe come back to starcraft one day mentally better.
Goodnight sweet Grack


what has Idra done for the community. I'm pretty curious about that. And insulting other players and the game itself on his stream does not count!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
May 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#2917
On May 10 2013 21:48 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

And you expect him to behave any different then?

He would say that zerg is overpowered lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 10 2013 12:51 GMT
#2918
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

Please no.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2013 12:51 GMT
#2919
On May 10 2013 21:48 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

And you expect him to behave any different then?
He never behaved differently back in BW, why should he now? I expect some good old chat comments about the Protoss sexual orientation and such.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 12:52:01
May 10 2013 12:51 GMT
#2920
On May 10 2013 21:47 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 21:45 figq wrote:
Best scenario: Idra goes back to BW (terran) and has some amazing fights with Sziky and the others in the future TLSs.

That's a terrible scenario.

No that's awesome.
Edit : We need Nony too.
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