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I dont follow american scene too much. Mostly GSL with tastosis + MLG. But even I heard of Idra. And its all because of his BM. Lets face it: he is an asshole. Just like that. Nothing more and nothing less. You can be skilled as hell in your job but if you have no manners ... well. If he was like Mourinho (who is shitting on everyone very cleverly) and thats why he is a superstar. But Idra... Sorry. I am so not intrested whats gonna happen to him. Just let him disappear .... The game would be better if we never heard of him again.
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On May 10 2013 20:50 Mensol wrote: btw im surprised that Machine is still on EG. I'm sure he doesn't cost them nearly as much as Idra though.
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We shouldn't get to ahead of ourselves now, this thread is about Idra not Machine, you wouldn't wanna get banned right? :D
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On May 10 2013 20:49 Wakimomo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:10 Hds wrote:On May 10 2013 20:08 Fluffboll wrote:On May 10 2013 20:06 Hds wrote:On May 10 2013 19:57 Wakimomo wrote:AWWWWWWWWWWWW so sad to hear machine go Wtf? He left? _________________________ ^ The joke ________________________ ^ your head He wasn't temp banned or anything like that for trolling, so I thought he was serious I guess mods are sleeping now __________________ ^ My reasonning __________________ ^Your reasonning Do you get temp banned for joking? O.o Depends, if the joke is in bad taste and uncalled for, especially in a topic like this which have had people banned left and right, you might Don't know
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On May 10 2013 20:38 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:30 zimz wrote: still the only foreigner to qualify through the GSL qualifiers legit. TLO, Jinro, huk all made it through the open brackets back in the open seasons I think naniwa and sase also made it to code a at least through legit means too Nope, once the code A/S system was established (after the first 3 seasons) not 1 foreigner managed to qualify the hard way.
I remember Idra and Jinro back in open season, not sure about TLO or Huk tough.
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On May 10 2013 20:50 SorrowShine wrote: I dont follow american scene too much. Mostly GSL with tastosis + MLG. But even I heard of Idra. And its all because of his BM. Lets face it: he is an asshole. Just like that. Nothing more and nothing less. You can be skilled as hell in your job but if you have no manners ... well. If he was like Mourinho (who is shitting on everyone very cleverly) and thats why he is a superstar. But Idra... Sorry. I am so not intrested whats gonna happen to him. Just let him disappear .... The game would be better if we never heard of him again.
mourinho wins leagues,cups though
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On May 10 2013 20:45 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:41 kafkaesque wrote: I don't know why you guys keep speculating which team he will join.
He has made a massive bank during the past couple of years, getting easily 8k a month, never having to pay for rent or food and probably not owning a car, so he will just retire and enjoy a wealthy, laid back student's life at a university of his choosing.
I dislike the dude, but there's no way to "gloat" about this news, since he'll be living the good life from now on. In fact, here's another plot twist: Idra himself wanted to do this (retirement -> uni) and EG milked the opportunity to present the best online drama play ever, starring Incontrol on SotG. If that conspiracy were true, Geoff truly deserves his Oscar now, because I almost cried with him... but I doubt it.
That would be the most insincere thing to happen in gaming since Tastosis' World of Tank cast, or the dude who sat in a wheelchair pretending to be handicapped to gain more stream viewers in WoW.
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Wow...
*sigh*
Watching IdrA is the reason I got into competitive Starcraft. Seeing a foreigner go toe to toe (more or less) with the mighty Koreans back in BW... now I feel like he might retire. Damn it. The frustration at his pre-emptive GGs is equally matched by the satisfaction as a fan of watching him play to his capability. Never really had a problem with his BM, aside from a few instances.
Good luck to you, Greg, wherever you end up.
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Guys at NASL were prophets about this issue. Someone diged it out on reddit.+ Show Spoiler +
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I remember when I used to follow TL before sc2 happened, and once the sc2 beta started Idra was the man, WoL releases and idra for awhile is still the most dominant player, then I stopped following sc2 almost completely.
And today I stumble upon this thread, wow. Sorry to ask this, but what did he do? I couldn't find it in the thread
[edit] nvm found it
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in a world where the norm is to fake it every day and force media-friendly language, political correctness and other bullshit i'm glad IdrA didn't forsake who he is and continues to speak his mind
keep on keeping on IdrA, it's a pity EG took the easy way out but i'm sure you'll find a team who appreciates who you are and not just your play skill eventually
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On May 10 2013 20:52 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:38 farnham wrote:On May 10 2013 20:30 zimz wrote: still the only foreigner to qualify through the GSL qualifiers legit. TLO, Jinro, huk all made it through the open brackets back in the open seasons I think naniwa and sase also made it to code a at least through legit means too Nope, once the code A/S system was established (after the first 3 seasons) not 1 foreigner managed to qualify the hard way. I remember Idra and Jinro back in open season, not sure about TLO or Huk tough. I rechecked: Artosis, Jinro, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S1. Loner, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S2. No foreigner made it in S3, and after that only seeds.
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On May 10 2013 20:55 Kelberot wrote: I remember when I used to follow TL before sc2 happened, and once the sc2 beta started Idra was the man, WoL releases and idra for awhile is still the most dominant player, then I stopped following sc2 almost completely.
And today I stumble upon this thread, wow. Sorry to ask this, but what did he do? I couldn't find it in the thread
I guess this was the last straw http://i.imgur.com/FgezXgU.jpg
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On May 10 2013 20:55 Kelberot wrote: I remember when I used to follow TL before sc2 happened, and once the sc2 beta started Idra was the man, WoL releases and idra for awhile is still the most dominant player, then I stopped following sc2 almost completely.
And today I stumble upon this thread, wow. Sorry to ask this, but what did he do? I couldn't find it in the thread http://i.imgur.com/FgezXgU.jpg thats basically the tip of the iceberg of years of bm towards this game, industry and the community
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On May 10 2013 20:57 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:52 Assirra wrote:On May 10 2013 20:38 farnham wrote:On May 10 2013 20:30 zimz wrote: still the only foreigner to qualify through the GSL qualifiers legit. TLO, Jinro, huk all made it through the open brackets back in the open seasons I think naniwa and sase also made it to code a at least through legit means too Nope, once the code A/S system was established (after the first 3 seasons) not 1 foreigner managed to qualify the hard way. I remember Idra and Jinro back in open season, not sure about TLO or Huk tough. I rechecked: Artosis, Jinro, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S1. Loner, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S2. No foreigner made it in S3, and after that only seeds. edit: sorry, you are talking about past open seasons (:
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On May 10 2013 20:17 RyF wrote: If Idra starts streaming again his viewer count will be higher than any Sc2 player ever had before.
Idra will prolly smile and think: "Only bad news are good news."
So much attention for a player who did not show any decent results for a long time. His self marketing is just incredible...
The first few times he streams from now on definitely. But if he wants to make a living out of it he has to stream on a regular, daily basis and I doubt that he can keep this numbers up.
I think he made enough money to finance himself a good university education und get some regular pocket money through streaming, be it Starcraft or any other game. In my opinion it would be the smartest thing to do. Nothing beats a good education nowadays.
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On May 10 2013 20:57 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:52 Assirra wrote:On May 10 2013 20:38 farnham wrote:On May 10 2013 20:30 zimz wrote: still the only foreigner to qualify through the GSL qualifiers legit. TLO, Jinro, huk all made it through the open brackets back in the open seasons I think naniwa and sase also made it to code a at least through legit means too Nope, once the code A/S system was established (after the first 3 seasons) not 1 foreigner managed to qualify the hard way. I remember Idra and Jinro back in open season, not sure about TLO or Huk tough. I rechecked: Artosis, Jinro, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S1. Loner, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S2. No foreigner made it in S3, and after that only seeds. I stand corrected then  Forgot all about Loner
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Any particular reason for release?
Actually i thought it's gonna happen long ago, it's long time since he showed any significant results. However he really practices a lot, i just think he reached plateau long time ago. Looks like in last 2 years he didn't really improved at all. Just my 2 cents.
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I dont follow SC2 anymore for the last 2 years, but fire Idra for a single comment on TL? Wtf was that, Idra is the BM of SC2, he and BM go together, that's just the way it is. This all happen on the INTERNET after all. I would agree if Idra got fire after said something like this in a real event. At most, they should let him put out an apology and be done about it.
Well, maybe EG was thinking of letting him go for quite a while now, and they are just waiting for Idra to make and mistake to make it official.
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On May 10 2013 20:43 prplhz wrote:I don't like this at all. This single comment doesn't bring anything new, he didn't lose a fain or gain a hater that he wouldn't have lost or gained otherwise. He is simply being who he has always been. Firing him because of this single incident is dumb because it's nothing new, firing him because of all the incidents is dumb because IdrA is IdrA and they knew that when they signed him. He'd publicly been IdrA for years before EG signed him. If they didn't want him to do these kinds of things then why didn't they put it in his contract that he wasn't allowed to hurt the image of EG? Alexander Garfield saw a good deal and he jumped at it and now for some reason he wants to get out of it. It's ironic how IdrA is getting sacked for telling the truth that is: he's getting paid for telling the truth. Alexander Garfield is acting all like "I had nothing to do with this" but what IdrA says is completely true: one of the big reasons EG hired him in the first place was because of his personality and Alexander Garfield knew about his behavior all along. He wanted his cake and he wanted to eat it too, he wanted IdrA's personality but he didn't want to take any of the fallout. IdrA gave his best years to EG and now EG tries to squeeze the last drop out of him by the attention surrounding his firing. They didn't just let his contract expire, they made a big deal out of how he's getting fired for some vague and dumb reason. InControl said that EG also takes some care of their players after they let them go and I like that but I don't like this firing at all.
He's a prize horse that's past its prime, idrA's Achievements in SC2
He hasn't won anything in the last 3 quarters since August'12. All this while being rude to not only the opponent, the game itself and now to everyone.
There was a line in the sand, he crossed it two fields ago.
1st, he failed to adapt to the new meta with its new units and dynamics. There is no longer 1 build fits all. HotS is now as dynamic as chess.
You can lose any time in Heart of the Swarm if you are not prepared for it. Which is why, I believe led to idrA becoming increasingly frustrated and erratic, and led to being subsequently a liability to EG itself. Back in beta, I could already see it coming, idrA never used the new units in the Zerg arsenal, if he lost to the new units or BO based on new units, new unit compositions, he'd lose his shit and cuss everyone out.
Which leads to the 2nd point, It got tiring fast, especially when the MU were pretty random and he was facing Korean pros losing and cussing them and Blizzard for imba as well as winning against obvious noobs bragging about being superior out.
Let's face it, it is entertaining watching drama from a tool. But it is tiring seeing the same complaints over and over by losing to an obviously superior opponent, and equally tiring to hear the same self praise by beating an obviously inferior opponent.
Needless to say, the act got tiring, which I believe leads to his continued drop on his viewership numbers. Especially when he started to say he hates the game itself, the final straw obviously for anyone trying to bring food on the table for everyone in the team including managers and coaches would be calling the fans "fucks" and being paid to do it.
Add in the recent tantrum, (from second hand information) dropping a decent game vs. Polt in a high profile tournament refence, you have a good formula of "How to get your ass fired in 7 days."
Edit: links
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