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On May 10 2013 20:57 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:52 Assirra wrote:On May 10 2013 20:38 farnham wrote:On May 10 2013 20:30 zimz wrote:
still the only foreigner to qualify through the GSL qualifiers legit. TLO, Jinro, huk all made it through the open brackets back in the open seasons I think naniwa and sase also made it to code a at least through legit means too Nope, once the code A/S system was established (after the first 3 seasons) not 1 foreigner managed to qualify the hard way. I remember Idra and Jinro back in open season, not sure about TLO or Huk tough. I rechecked: Artosis, Jinro, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S1. Loner, TLO, Idra made it thru preliminaries in S2. No foreigner made it in S3, and after that only seeds.
You forgot about Torch !
Btw in Jinro qualified in the third season not the first just looked it up.
Edit : Haypro , Ret and Sen also qualified in Season 3 .
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Good. Now he'd only a 3rd class player without a team.
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Well this is sad, I really think that he's just very entertaining to watch at times. Good luck to him, wherever he may end up 
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On May 10 2013 10:35 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
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If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG. lol is this a post what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2 Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game. get out then if you don't like the game, all people like you are just here for the drama you're all nothing more than cancer to the scene. the community owes idra for shittalking them? you're hilarious.
I don't feel like I owe Idra anything. Nor do I feel the community does either. This is a business and to do well, you have to post results. Furthermore, his behavior is not going to move e-sports further ahead.
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On May 10 2013 21:05 Punti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:17 RyF wrote:
If Idra starts streaming again his viewer count will be higher than any Sc2 player ever had before.
Idra will prolly smile and think: "Only bad news are good news."
So much attention for a player who did not show any decent results for a long time. His self marketing is just incredible... The first few times he streams from now on definitely. But if he wants to make a living out of it he has to stream on a regular, daily basis and I doubt that he can keep this numbers up. I think he made enough money to finance himself a good university education und get some regular pocket money through streaming, be it Starcraft or any other game. In my opinion it would be the smartest thing to do. Nothing beats a good education nowadays.
That's true, the first couple times he does, maybe for about a month even, but after that it goes downhill because no one cares about what happened last month. Him being kicked from EG should send a message to him that he doesn't run sc2 and he isn't top dog somehow where he can shit on anyone he wants anytime he wants.
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I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
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On May 10 2013 20:50 SorrowShine wrote:
I dont follow american scene too much. Mostly GSL with tastosis + MLG. But even I heard of Idra. And its all because of his BM.
Lets face it: he is an asshole. Just like that. Nothing more and nothing less. You can be skilled as hell in your job but if you have no manners ... well. If he was like Mourinho (who is shitting on everyone very cleverly) and thats why he is a superstar.
But Idra... Sorry. I am so not intrested whats gonna happen to him.
Just let him disappear .... The game would be better if we never heard of him again.
Mourinho is a skilled manager. He won a lot of cups. Idra never won anything always looses due to his bad skills or due to his own rage and he doesnt even try to get better
No in fact he thinks that he can ride on his popularity and be bad mannered all the time. In the short term he might be beneficial for the team as some people still seem to worship him like a god. For the long run he is poison for the scene and for the team, as the people that worship him clearly dont care about competition or esports itself but are rather similar to fans of a popstar.
Maybe he should act or sing popsongs. Some of his followers will surely still follow him.
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On May 10 2013 20:56 jfourz wrote:
in a world where the norm is to fake it every day and force media-friendly language, political correctness and other bullshit i'm glad IdrA didn't forsake who he is and continues to speak his mind
keep on keeping on IdrA, it's a pity EG took the easy way out but i'm sure you'll find a team who appreciates who you are and not just your play skill eventually
Are you serious? IdrA wasn't just being himself (a more regular asshole), he actually went overboard with his offensive behavior because that's what brought him more money. He's not above those who act nice for the media in any way.
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On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort.
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On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
Been following this thread, no one posted links to the Polt game yet.
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He didnt leave EG kicked him out. He left because of his bm/attitude in game.
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Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On May 10 2013 20:56 jfourz wrote:
in a world where the norm is to fake it every day and force media-friendly language, political correctness and other bullshit i'm glad IdrA didn't forsake who he is and continues to speak his mind
keep on keeping on IdrA, it's a pity EG took the easy way out but i'm sure you'll find a team who appreciates who you are and not just your play skill eventually How is getting him a psychiatrician, constant support and help, catering him and covering his uss in pr for over 3 years an 'easy way out'?
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On May 10 2013 21:12 zmansman17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:35 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:33 RoboSnail wrote:On May 10 2013 10:29 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:27 badDogma wrote:On May 10 2013 10:20 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:12 TheExile19 wrote:On May 10 2013 10:09 pieisamazing wrote:On May 10 2013 10:06 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
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lol is this a post
what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra
ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never) That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times i dont really get it then. what does eg even have without idra he was always their poster boy in sc2. none of their players can win anything anymore. not that idra has (for awhile anyway), but he was definitely one of the faces of eg other than incontrol. you saw the comment he was responding to. none of the other players on his team put up with that kind of shit. if he tells that person to fuck off, then who cares. guy had it coming. all of "esports" is just filled with a bunch of pussified bitches apparently. this whole situation is ridiculous why is e-sports immune to the same social faux pas that real sports is? why the quote brackets when the response from a real sports organization to a serially underperforming player who just happens to get on twitter after a bad day of practice and say his chosen career is only watched by retards would likely be the exact same? because "esports" isnt even a thing its a thing that people WANT to become a thing but it will never be as popular or far-reaching as real sports, and thats just the truth people who watch "esports" are already a niche audience that can probably handle a few mean words without running to mommy and daddy. why do people care about some fucking words on the internet? why is everyone trying to look super professional? so someday people can be like "oh esports? i dont watch that its too mainstream." it blows my mind that people can take serious offense to stuff like a player blowing off steam. im sure you and everyone else in this thread has been in twitch chats with all the idiots. and when i say all the idiots, i mean like 99% of the people in the twitch chats. the non-idiots are pretty much the ones you dont even know are there (i.e, the ones not talking). its gonna be rough dealing with shitty people when youre trying to entertain them, even if part of that entertainment is you being an asshole. but then, i shouldnt be surprised. team liquid in particular has become shithole of memes and witch hunts since i started lurking so long ago. I hope you know that it is gullible fans like you who love the "dark and edgy" persona that idra gloats about exploiting. I'm not sure what your point is, any community would be shitty if everyone was an asshole every time they got even a little upset. Whether or not the community is small or large is irrelevant, sports/e-sports or people in general mostly dislike assholes. You can't act surprised that some people are happy idra got fired. Getting mad is no excuse for someone to be a complete and total dickhole. Perhaps if he had a legit mental disorder people would be more forgiving, but he simply comes off as a whiny brat. nice baseless personal attack bro. unfortunately it didnt really add anything to your post to make it believable and just to expand a bit, yes idra is whiny, but so are plenty of other players. idra just vocalizes it more. its part of the character that a lot of people like and its honestly why eg is even a popular team at this point. without idra they [probably] would be nothing right now in sc2 Agreed, the entire sc2 community owes Idra more then they will ever admit. For me, he was the only reason i still watched this shitty game. get out then if you don't like the game, all people like you are just here for the drama you're all nothing more than cancer to the scene. the community owes idra for shittalking them? you're hilarious. I don't feel like I owe Idra anything. Nor do I feel the community does either. This is a business and to do well, you have to post results. Furthermore, his behavior is not going to move e-sports further ahead.
He did not get fired because of results.
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On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort.
You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."?
I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame?
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On May 10 2013 21:18 ALPINA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort. You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."? I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame?
Theyve kicked him because of who he is and his inability to change, leaving games and preemptive gg's are a part of that, but payed a small role in the decision I guess. The quote tipped the scales.
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On May 10 2013 21:19 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 21:18 ALPINA wrote:On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort. You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."? I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame? Theyve kicked him because of who he is and his inability to change, leaving games and preemptive gg's are a part of that, but payed a small role in the decision I guess. The quote tipped the scales.
They kicked him because he gloated that he gets to treat the community/fanbase like 'a bunch of fucks' and gets paid to do so. BM has always been a part of his persona but you don't directly insult the people that make your job possible. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Best SC2 news I read in 3 years...
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On May 10 2013 21:08 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 20:43 prplhz wrote:I don't like this at all. This single comment doesn't bring anything new, he didn't lose a fain or gain a hater that he wouldn't have lost or gained otherwise. He is simply being who he has always been. Firing him because of this single incident is dumb because it's nothing new, firing him because of all the incidents is dumb because IdrA is IdrA and they knew that when they signed him. He'd publicly been IdrA for years before EG signed him. If they didn't want him to do these kinds of things then why didn't they put it in his contract that he wasn't allowed to hurt the image of EG? Alexander Garfield saw a good deal and he jumped at it and now for some reason he wants to get out of it. It's ironic how IdrA is getting sacked for telling the truth that is: he's getting paid for telling the truth. Alexander Garfield is acting all like "I had nothing to do with this" but what IdrA says is completely true: one of the big reasons EG hired him in the first place was because of his personality and Alexander Garfield knew about his behavior all along. He wanted his cake and he wanted to eat it too, he wanted IdrA's personality but he didn't want to take any of the fallout. IdrA gave his best years to EG and now EG tries to squeeze the last drop out of him by the attention surrounding his firing. They didn't just let his contract expire, they made a big deal out of how he's getting fired for some vague and dumb reason. InControl said that EG also takes some care of their players after they let them go and I like that but I don't like this firing at all. He's a prize horse that's past its prime, idrA's Achievements in SC2He hasn't won anything in the last 3 quarters since August'12. All this while being rude to not only the opponent, the game itself and now to everyone. There was a line in the sand, he crossed it two fields ago. 1st, he failed to adapt to the new meta with its new units and dynamics. There is no longer 1 build fits all. HotS is now as dynamic as chess. You can lose any time in Heart of the Swarm if you are not prepared for it.Which is why, I believe led to idrA becoming increasingly frustrated and erratic, and led to being subsequently a liability to EG itself. Back in beta, I could already see it coming, idrA never used the new units in the Zerg arsenal, if he lost to the new units or BO based on new units, new unit compositions, he'd lose his shit and cuss everyone out. Which leads to the 2nd point, It got tiring fast, especially when the MU were pretty random and he was facing Korean pros losing and cussing them and Blizzard for imba as well as winning against obvious noobs bragging about being superior out. Let's face it, it is entertaining watching drama from a tool. But it is tiring seeing the same complaints over and over by losing to an obviously superior opponent, and equally tiring to hear the same self praise by beating an obviously inferior opponent. Needless to say, the act got tiring, which I believe leads to his continued drop on his viewership numbers. Especially when he started to say he hates the game itself, the final straw obviously for anyone trying to bring food on the table for everyone in the team including managers and coaches would be calling the fans "fucks" and being paid to do it. Add in the recent tantrum, (from second hand information) dropping a decent game vs. Polt in a high profile tournament, you have a good formula of "How to get your ass fired in 7 days."
If they're firing people for being bad at StarCraft then other people on EG who would be more worthy of getting fired. They're not though, if you read the OP then IdrA's skills and achievements are not been mentioned at all.
Your idea that IdrA has become a liability for EG because he's getting increasingly frustrated with the HotS metagame is hilarious.
IdrA has called a lot of people a lot of things, he's always done that, it isn't something new. Being bad mannered has always been part of his "charm".
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On May 10 2013 21:18 ALPINA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 21:15 HornyHerring wrote:On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
There's the picture like 10 times on each page of this thread, make an effort. You mean where he said "it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome."? I thought they released him because he left from some tournament midgame?
He went 4 base before lair on Daybreak and got himself into a huge lead against Polt. Polt didn't play particularly well at the start(not expecting such insane greed I suppose) as he meet more army than he expected. Eventually this lead into idra getting ultras, bls, infestors, corruptors.
Polt kept sniping the 12 oclock(6th base). Idra pushed to Polts 4th(he had a 5th too, I think it was not scouted at all), but with a PF and insane patienience and positioning Polt just waited for idra to make a move(while sniping the 6th and getting viking/raven count up to counter idras air).
Polt had essentially stabalised and was in very good position, but idra had 3k/3k banked and had better army supply(atleast he did a bit earlier). Idra backed off, Polt sniped his 5th and idra quit maxed out with 3k/3k after playing a terrible lategame.
Edit: I mean this game probably effected their decision heavily, but I think it was rather the post and idra immaturity as of late. I mean his argument with Demuslim probably doesn't help, as atm I'd say Demu is probably EGs best player(atleast if Stephano doesn't show his skill once more).
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On May 10 2013 21:15 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 21:13 ALPINA wrote:
I didn't follow SC2 scene at all recently. So is it because he left midgame in some recent tournament? What's the reason he left anyone please??
Been following this thread, no one posted links to the Polt game yet.
The Polt game ragequit might still be related. He was BM to the community and showed bad "sportsmanship". One bad action makes the other bad action look even worse, so there isn't even "Well, yeah, he did that bad thing, but...", it's "He did that bad thing and also..."
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