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CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
May 10 2013 13:48 GMT
#2981
Maybe Idra is a kinda of player that thrives in incredibly hard environments, such as a kespa team or somewhere similar. When he has no money, and still has to practice a lot only to catch up. Perhaps EG is viewed as "end goal" team for a lot of people, and some of them more than others lose motivation to become better, be it persons or players.

If he could get on a team that won't pay and tolerate as much EG did, he can give it his all again. Even if he can't love the game, he can be driven by the competition, his personal goals and struggle and be a practice machine again.
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
TheProphet_
Profile Joined May 2012
51 Posts
May 10 2013 13:48 GMT
#2982
On May 10 2013 22:42 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:32 TheProphet_ wrote:
Hey for all we know maybe Idra himself realized hes been talking balooney all along and loses because he is far far away from the intelligence / superior skill of his opponents

maybe he realized he has no future playing sc2 but is too arrogant / has talked too much to just admit it so he set this up with alex to dismiss him so it doesnt look like he wanted to quit but was kinda forced to

or maybe not but who knows

No way. C'mon now just look at his ladder rank. Top 3 ranked zerg on NA. Idra played very well in the first game vs polt. But, this is a game of will power, not just skill. If every time a game doesn't go perfect you quit, you're going to have a hard time making a career. It's fine to quit games in practice, but in a tournament it just proves there are some major psychological issues. Back this up with his behavior and it's more obvious.



Ladder rank? Did you say that as a joke?

In my mind pretty much any korean whose name is even barely known could dispatch idra 9-0 in a 9 series without hardly even trying. I'm not trying to bm just calling it like I see it, I think everyone in this thread but the hardcore fanboys agree he was only even an "asset" to his team in the sense of drawing viewers, he couldn't put up competitively.

Even DeMuslim who is a great guy and good player, much better than idra and ahead of him in NA ladder just lost 16-0 to byun recently... and it wasnt like he was exploiting the same thing over and over, he was mixing it up doing all sort of stuff. And Byun is just one amongst many top koreans, the skill gap between him and demu is already huge, the skill gap between demu and idra is also gigantic so yea whatever. In my mind theres many players in NA who could compete with idra and even beat him with ease who aren't necessarily top in ladder. It doesn't mean that much honestly.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
May 10 2013 13:49 GMT
#2983
On May 10 2013 22:45 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:44 Fleuria wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?


Basically told the community that they are a complete bunch of wankers and deserved to be bm'd by him,

glad he got booted of EG wanker didn't deserve a 5/6 figure salary for being a complete ass, good move by EG.


Most of the community are a bunch of 'wankers' so I see less of a problem then probably most of the community : P


So you are a confirmed wanker or a different special snowflake ?
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 13:49:26
May 10 2013 13:49 GMT
#2984
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.
the1whodontcare
Profile Joined May 2013
1 Post
May 10 2013 13:49 GMT
#2985
who really cares, he got what he deserved. ever heard of dont bite the hand that feeds you.........over and over again. Good to see EG make a good choice for once
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
May 10 2013 13:50 GMT
#2986
thanks for explanation
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
May 10 2013 13:52 GMT
#2987
On May 10 2013 22:49 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.


Yes because his fans aren't part of the community, or the community for that matter.
cabal]
Profile Joined January 2013
Belgium37 Posts
May 10 2013 13:53 GMT
#2988
people need to stop acting like kids
if idra leaves games early cause he realizes he lost it's his thing and not yours
also if you get offended by him you should consider yourself a bit emotional
and tbh being "friendly" is almost always a facade in the public. good examples are shop assistans, they have to be nice or else they get fired, doesn't matter if he hates you, he must be friendly but in the end only the opinion in his mind counts. just because you fake your friendlyness doesn't make you friendly at all lol. And idra is at least a honest person when it comes to that.
Usernameffs
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden107 Posts
May 10 2013 13:54 GMT
#2989
On May 10 2013 22:49 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.

Ok don't even remember exactly what i he wrote.
Partha
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand163 Posts
May 10 2013 13:54 GMT
#2990
On May 10 2013 22:49 Juggernaut477 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.


How the fuck do you prove he was mostly right. That's such a sweeping statement to make.

You are literally guessing (from ZERO legitimate data) that most of the SC community are "fucks" (which again; what does being a "fuck" mean?).
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Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:00:00
May 10 2013 13:56 GMT
#2991
Not hugely surprised.

Good move by EG IMO.

It's been 3 years of IdrA being angry as hell about everything and nothing, and recently he's not been getting results too. I think the only fairly 'recent' decent performance was his WCS group stage performance?

EG seem to be offing their other 'underachieving' players so yeah... If there was a final 'nail' in the coffin so to speak, that pushed EG over the edge, then fair do's tbh.
Bleh.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 10 2013 13:56 GMT
#2992
I get the ppl saying "poor idra", I get the ppl saying "poor EG", I get all of your opinions. But isn't anyone just sad, that it went so far? Seriously, this is just sad.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 10 2013 13:57 GMT
#2993
holy jesus... if you are not surprised well damn
banelings
matt93
Profile Joined January 2013
Australia32 Posts
May 10 2013 13:58 GMT
#2994
On May 10 2013 22:54 Usernameffs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:49 Juggernaut477 wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:45 Usernameffs wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?

Number of things. He said to caposh that he wished him cancer. Wrote that david kim should be raped by an tire iron. Posted on a forum that his fans are fucks. Refused to play his teammate Demuslim for weeks plus something we maybe dont know about.


He never said his fans were fucks, he said the starcraft community in general was.

He was mostly right.

Ok don't even remember exactly what i he wrote.


He didn't even say the starcraft community was, it was in response to a guy being a dick to him and he said something along the lines of "you're a bunch of fucks etc.(I get paid to do this blah blah can't be bothered finding the picture)" the You could be interpreted various ways

1) People like the person being rude
2) The general community

People see it as relating to #2 and that's why a lot of people are up in arms about it, it probably was related to the first group though, considering it was in response to a rude dude, but it's over now and no one will really know what he wanted to say unless he releases the info himself.
I'm bad, really bad but I'll blame it on my internet.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 10 2013 13:59 GMT
#2995
On May 10 2013 22:45 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:44 Fleuria wrote:
On May 10 2013 22:39 Art_of_Kill wrote:
not gonna read 100+ pages to find out, so can someone tell me, what did idra do to get kicked out of eg?


Basically told the community that they are a complete bunch of wankers and deserved to be bm'd by him,

glad he got booted of EG wanker didn't deserve a 5/6 figure salary for being a complete ass, good move by EG.


Most of the community are a bunch of 'wankers' so I see less of a problem then probably most of the community : P


the mistake he did was that he said he is getting payed by EG for doing this. So basically stating that this is the opinion of whole EG towards the community.
Probably didn't think it would be any big, because it was posted in a nonsense thread. I am most sad for the OP of that thread though, he must feel horrible about the outcome of his thread.
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
May 10 2013 13:59 GMT
#2996
Can this thread get locked already? There is nothing to be said here that hasn't been said a thousand times over in various threads and discussions already, just the standard gg, manners, ragequit and mentality IdrA is known for.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28504 Posts
May 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#2997
On May 10 2013 22:11 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 22:02 prplhz wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:35 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:23 prplhz wrote:
On May 10 2013 21:08 Hattori_Hanzo wrote:
On May 10 2013 20:43 prplhz wrote:
I don't like this at all.

This single comment doesn't bring anything new, he didn't lose a fain or gain a hater that he wouldn't have lost or gained otherwise. He is simply being who he has always been.

Firing him because of this single incident is dumb because it's nothing new, firing him because of all the incidents is dumb because IdrA is IdrA and they knew that when they signed him. He'd publicly been IdrA for years before EG signed him. If they didn't want him to do these kinds of things then why didn't they put it in his contract that he wasn't allowed to hurt the image of EG? Alexander Garfield saw a good deal and he jumped at it and now for some reason he wants to get out of it.

It's ironic how IdrA is getting sacked for telling the truth that is: he's getting paid for telling the truth. Alexander Garfield is acting all like "I had nothing to do with this" but what IdrA says is completely true: one of the big reasons EG hired him in the first place was because of his personality and Alexander Garfield knew about his behavior all along. He wanted his cake and he wanted to eat it too, he wanted IdrA's personality but he didn't want to take any of the fallout.

IdrA gave his best years to EG and now EG tries to squeeze the last drop out of him by the attention surrounding his firing. They didn't just let his contract expire, they made a big deal out of how he's getting fired for some vague and dumb reason. InControl said that EG also takes some care of their players after they let them go and I like that but I don't like this firing at all.


He's a prize horse that's past its prime, idrA's Achievements in SC2
He hasn't won anything in the last 3 quarters since August'12.
All this while being rude to not only the opponent, the game itself and now to everyone.

There was a line in the sand, he crossed it two fields ago.

1st, he failed to adapt to the new meta with its new units and dynamics. There is no longer 1 build fits all. HotS is now as dynamic as chess.


You can lose any time in Heart of the Swarm if you are not prepared for it.
Which is why, I believe led to idrA becoming increasingly frustrated and erratic, and led to being subsequently a liability to EG itself. Back in beta, I could already see it coming, idrA never used the new units in the Zerg arsenal, if he lost to the new units or BO based on new units, new unit compositions, he'd lose his shit and cuss everyone out.

Which leads to the 2nd point,
It got tiring fast, especially when the MU were pretty random and he was facing Korean pros losing and cussing them and Blizzard for imba as well as winning against obvious noobs bragging about being superior out.

Let's face it, it is entertaining watching drama from a tool. But it is tiring seeing the same complaints over and over by losing to an obviously superior opponent, and equally tiring to hear the same self praise by beating an obviously inferior opponent.

Needless to say, the act got tiring, which I believe leads to his continued drop on his viewership numbers. Especially when he started to say he hates the game itself, the final straw obviously for anyone trying to bring food on the table for everyone in the team including managers and coaches would be calling the fans "fucks" and being paid to do it.

Add in the recent tantrum, (from second hand information) dropping a decent game vs. Polt in a high profile tournament, you have a good formula of "How to get your ass fired in 7 days."

If they're firing people for being bad at StarCraft then other people on EG who would be more worthy of getting fired. They're not though, if you read the OP then IdrA's skills and achievements are not been mentioned at all.

Your idea that IdrA has become a liability for EG because he's getting increasingly frustrated with the HotS metagame is hilarious.

IdrA has called a lot of people a lot of things, he's always done that, it isn't something new. Being bad mannered has always been part of his "charm".


ORLY? Which part of using WoL builds in HotS beta THE WHOLE TIME entertaining? Back in the final months of the beta I spent two hours watching idrA play, he banned folks from his channel for even suggesting using a new unit (roach/hydra/viper)!

That's the thing about BM, it's entertaining at times, people tolerate/enjoy it when BMer is winning like a boss, like how Andre Agassi was back in his 20s and how he could get away with stunts that could have gotten a lesser tennis player banned for life.

Yes, really. I'm not an expert on the HotS metagame but I'm pretty sure Alexander Garfield didn't fire IdrA because he was afraid it would drive him insane.

There are plenty of other reasons to ban some nobody for going onto your twitch.tv channel and saying "u wud haf won if u maek roaches". I imagine it's because IdrA doesn't particularly like smart asses and it's far fetched to think that it's a symptom of HotS metagame induced lunacy.

This André Agassi analogy is also way off.


IdrA can ban anyone he likes, but when I was watching his channel he was losing to unit compositions that would have won him the game, one game he had 200/200 roach/hydra army vs. the Korean (Korean characters in name) P's 160/200 army with 4 colossi + 2/2/0 gateway deathball, just 4 vipers would have won him that game. In the end, he gg'd out after having his army wiped out by awesome colossi kiting micro by his opponent.

Don't get me wrong, back in his prime, I loved him for the smartass punk that he was. Lately he was sounding like a drunken hasbeen.

I'm curious, how so is Andre Agassi analogy way off?

Agassi was never as BM as Idra. I think you meant Mcenroe.
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
May 10 2013 14:01 GMT
#2998
I'm actually very surprised by this. I figured IdrA wasn't exactly warm and fuzzy but the way his team loved him and the pics we'd get of him smiling and having fun with them gave me the impression that most of his attitude was just because it's the way we wanted him to act...not because he was actually that angry. I mean, c'mon, we ARE a bunch of fuckwits 99% of the time. Of course it's easy to treat us that way.

I've always liked IdrA and I only want good things for him. I have no idea what his long term goals are so I can't do anything more than vaguely wish him well but, I wish him well.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 14:18:30
May 10 2013 14:02 GMT
#2999
More than half a million views in less than 24 hours... this thread to get more views in a day than the Bnet Server Status sticky thread could get in 3 years.

He made it to top general reddit, he made it to top twitter, and in reddit/starcraft he had almost the whole front page full of different threads about him.

SotG had more viewers than WCS running at the same time.

Madness? This is IdrA.
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 10 2013 14:04 GMT
#3000
On May 10 2013 22:59 Tilorn91 wrote:
Can this thread get locked already? There is nothing to be said here that hasn't been said a thousand times over in various threads and discussions already, just the standard gg, manners, ragequit and mentality IdrA is known for.


So why do you enter the topic?
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