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SeXyBaCk
Profile Joined January 2012
Switzerland174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:06:20
May 15 2013 09:01 GMT
#481
To the OP:

I appreciate you are absolutely convinced it's just the game that makes you angry, and it might indeed appear so, as you as are - as you describe a productive and responsible adult otherwise. However, as with all unhealthy emotional reactions that humans can suffer from, the trigger isn't the cause, and often times the trigger doesn't even hint at the cause but is rather a faulty circuit your psyche has created to deal with a subconscious psychological conflict to vent the excessive negative emotion that is pent up.

The short answer is, for all the kind words, no one here can help you deal with or fix your problem. From what you have described, there's a real risk here of you harming yourself further, it's imperative that you seek professional counsel e.g. a therapist, preferably a psychiatrist who can help you discover the underlying reasons for your anger. This might be very hard to do and will take a substantial amount of time but you will grow from it. You might doubt that there are any underlying reasons but I'm certain there are, the behaviour you describe is so far removed from adequate behaviour, it's a given.

You need to figure out why you're angry and learn to relieve your anger in a healthy fashion. And my advice as an MD would be to do so sooner rather than later. You might indeed learn to stop raging while playing starcraft on your own, but 5 years from now it might all return when your 18 month old has spilt her juice all over her highchair or your wife talks back to you in a way you don't like, and at that point you might not only be at risk of harming yourself but others as well.

edit: seeing that you're from the US, not knowing your healthplan works, I suggest getting in touch with your insurance first and ask them how you can get yourself psychiatrically explored, you might have to go see your family physician first. Just tell him/her what you told the forum.
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:20:28
May 15 2013 09:18 GMT
#482
On May 09 2013 08:57 HeeroFX wrote:
i know you said this before but maybe you should grow up? What I mean by this is look at your life and say "is losing a match in a video game I play for fun a big deal?" Sure we all get frustrated, when we lose, but grown ups move past those frustrating moments and power through them. But no offense I feel like your one of those people who shouldn't play video games you can lose at because of the fact you wrote:
Show nested quote +

1. Slamming my fists into any objects around me with such force and consistency that I have damaged the nerves in my hands, wrists, and fingers several times, sometimes requiring months to heal. At one point I thought I was going to need surgery for a nerve impingement, but was fortunate to be able to avoid it.
2. Throwing, damaging, and breaking objects around me. Yesterday, I managed to slam 4 or 5 keys off of my $120.00 mechanical keyboard. Fortunately I was able to find them and re-attach them and it still works (good on you, Corsair!).
3. Screaming in fits of rage that lasts for anywhere from 30-45 minutes at their worst. I was actually cited for a noise violation by my apartment complex late last year for this and the associated slamming and banging.
4. Speeding and driving semi-recklessly when I have to go somewhere after playing and losing a few matches. This is the scariest thing, because I could, y'know, die, or cause someone else to die.




really tells me that you need to grow up, get mental help, don't play the game. Hope this helps you, I am not trying to be mean, but your situation is pretty stupid.


Such a stupid answer and ignorant statement ... Many mental conditions exist, on different level, that can cause people to loose control or do things they know they shouldn't.

TO THE OP: I'd say it's a state of mind, you're obviously a competitive person and you enjoy it, therefore you also get frustrated when loosing (whatever the reason).
I've witnessed some people experiencing truely debilitating mental issues and it's not something to take lightly. All the nice talk and good advice on how to feel or how to put yourself in the right state of mind can surely help but they require you to do an incredibly unnatural amount of work on yourself (you're litteraly going against your own nature ...). And there's no user manual to dealing with this unfortunately.

If you think you can't handle it (which very few people can and there's nothing to be ashamed of), your best solution is to talk about it with a specialist and deal with it step by step.
ItanoCircus
Profile Joined January 2013
United States67 Posts
May 15 2013 09:25 GMT
#483
I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestions to find external sources to help you calm down more easily and appropriately, and there's also a very high chance that something else is going on that you might not be addressing.

If it's as simple as the game itself, you will see that in time. If there's something more serious underlying this, you WILL need professional assistance, and that is NOT something to be ashamed of (proper English be damned). Better now than later, trust me. Do what must be done.

Better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth closed than to open it and remove all doubt.
RaXCitY
Profile Joined June 2012
United States37 Posts
May 15 2013 09:32 GMT
#484
Just channel it bro! its zergs fault so primary sniping zerg 3 expos with 2 base stimmed probe BF thor all in!
Terran NO-p
Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
May 15 2013 09:42 GMT
#485
Must say I found this add pretty funny for this thread :D

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UPro-BW
Profile Joined September 2012
81 Posts
May 15 2013 09:43 GMT
#486
start another game and rush the shit out of them
"3t4t5t6v7v8v9v" - iloveoov
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
May 15 2013 10:27 GMT
#487
On May 09 2013 21:19 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:13 Lauriel wrote:
To everyone saying "quit and get professional help," thank you for your input, but I'm not going to respond, simply because it's a last resort, and I'm looking for solutions that will prevent me from going to that end. I also don't have the money for professional help, and have no interest in talking to a psychiatrist about gaming rage that they probably don't understand to begin with.

Again, thank you for the input though. It is noted.

Show nested quote +
3. Screaming in fits of rage that lasts for anywhere from 30-45 minutes at their worst.


This does not sound like gaming rage. This isn't like punching a locker after losing a sports game. That's not even punching your keyboard. I mean, you can try slamming your thigh instead of a breakable object, but your behavior sounds kind of disturbing and it doesn't sound like it's just about competition. :/

Maybe not a psychiatrist, but there are psychologists or counselors who could help.


On May 10 2013 03:40 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 00:47 Lauriel wrote:
Also, for those mentioning the screaming or fits of rage, the screaming doesn't actually last terribly long. It's the staying angry that lasts for a good while. And I'm certain that I'm not schizophrenic, nor do I need medication. The problem is mindset and perspective - I'm virtually certain.

Neither us nor you have the expertise or perspective to make that judgment. You are certainly not capable of keeping an objective perspective in this regard, no one is. That's why you should see someone. You're describing very serious symptoms that are not common among people playing video games and sound potentially harmful. Saying "you know yourself and it's just about mindset" is an absolute cop out. You're not in the correct position to make that judgment. Neither are we. A professional might be.


I have to agree with Jibba. The chemical induced rage / anger is not lasting this long. It lasts seconds, where you can easily smash something if you're not used to dealing with it.
You should get used to this though over a longer period of experiencing it, if you dont always use the "smash" reaction and prevent it from becoming a habit.

Being really angry over a longer period is a bigger problem. Especially if it's affecting other things in your life (driving, your neighbours, ...). But reading your responses in this thread makes me think you're not interested in a solution. You dont really explain your thoughts / mindset in those situations.
Looks more like you search for others with similar behavior, to convince yourself that it's normal.
But when others agree with you - most of them talk about those 5sec of rage. Not lasting anger. That's not normal.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 15 2013 14:07 GMT
#488
That the OP would even think about continuing to play SC2 despite all this is a testament to the addictive power of video games. Lol seriously, why the FUCK are you still playing SC2 bro? Are you that addicted to this game? And why does your gf allow you to play? Something is wrong here.
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
May 15 2013 15:26 GMT
#489
On May 15 2013 18:43 UPro-BW wrote:
start another game and rush the shit out of them

But, if they did this than the other person might rage, leading them to rush their next opponent and causing a never-ending wave of rushers. Games may never get to the 7 minute mark again!
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
Blezza
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom191 Posts
May 15 2013 15:38 GMT
#490
On May 16 2013 00:26 AwM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 18:43 UPro-BW wrote:
start another game and rush the shit out of them

But, if they did this than the other person might rage, leading them to rush their next opponent and causing a never-ending wave of rushers. Games may never get to the 7 minute mark again!


I'm thinking PvP 2010
Winners race > Other race I don't play > My race. How Twitch chat work in tournaments...
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 15 2013 15:44 GMT
#491
You should really look in to the Work by Byron Katie

http://www.thework.com/index.php

That is the key to true happiness, and no it is not some belief system or mental state or drug.. It is a method towards understanding your own mind..

This can help your life in general, and definitely cure your anger issues
SyrZulu
Profile Joined August 2011
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 18:00:01
May 15 2013 17:59 GMT
#492


I think its because you probably watch pro games and love the game. because of your love for sc2 you naturally want to play, have fun, using builds you see, and own some players on ladder, this is where your rage comes from! the problem with this is when you lose. When you feel like you lose to stupidness, or lose to something you scouted (which angers me the most), or just lose , the problem is you are losing to someone when you try your absolute hardest. its like your striving to be the best you can be, but keep getting knocked back down to make you feel like shit.
--- you take the game too seriously ---
Maybe instead of copying "the pros" you should play more for fun and ---care less--- about winning. do you care about your ladder rank a lot? try builds for fun like 2rax reaper or roach bane all in, or proxy oracles and see if you can win just for fun. try funny cool builds for fun and play aggressive builds. when you play like this and lose its not like losing, only more like your build not working lol if that makes sense. what im trying to say is that it feels better to lose when you tryto play for fun instead of playing super macro and losing to cheese or losing in general. when you care too much about winning, then you also care too much about losing.

---you have to deal with your losses, that is one of the main dillemas you are facing---******

I don't care if i lose because i dont care about my rank. i just care about getting better. knowing that even if i lose, just learn from how i lost (even if its from a stupid mistake). for example if i lose to dts, "oh okay i should scout and make a turret nextime and make sure i dont die to that anymore". instead of being like SHIITT FUCK DD*****SKFDASKsd isuuuck i hate life. LOSING MAKES YOU BETTER. watch your replays, you will see how close the games you lose really are. this will motivate you to change small things in your play to win the next game.
---focus on improving instead of losing or winning---
if you learn (like i did) to not care about losing and only care about improving , that is seeing HOW you lost. then you will lose less to things you normally lose to. you will win more. and you will have fun. remember. if your not having fun , your not playing a game, your playing a sport. your not a pro. play for fun , improve, and be thankful for your awesome life! (wife and job , success!) if you want you can add me ingame i will coach you or play with you!! :D

i hope you solve your rage problem much luck to you!
AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
May 15 2013 18:07 GMT
#493
I think you should quit SC2, I did, after I threw my keyboard out of my window after WINNING against someone who played like an idiot and made me very frustrated.

I rage more when I win than when I lose, but really, you should either quit SC2 and find something else, or go into games with a different mindset, something that I failed to do after many attempts.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 18:08:06
May 15 2013 18:07 GMT
#494
On May 15 2013 18:42 Simsons2 wrote:
Must say I found this add pretty funny for this thread :D

[image loading]


Gotta love online marketing research. Everything you search or google will start to creep up in all your ads :D

Privacy, pshh, whats that?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 15 2013 18:17 GMT
#495
On May 16 2013 03:07 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 18:42 Simsons2 wrote:
Must say I found this add pretty funny for this thread :D

[image loading]


Gotta love online marketing research. Everything you search or google will start to creep up in all your ads :D

Privacy, pshh, whats that?


Its not really "private" when we type words on their platform and ask them to search things similar to the words we type.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
BlinkGosu
Profile Joined December 2010
United States46 Posts
May 15 2013 18:17 GMT
#496
Im literally disgusted that this thread is still here. Mod please Close this. inb4 warning
lol
Leru
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Romania257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 18:23:51
May 15 2013 18:23 GMT
#497
Goosfraba to you !
Anger management
Less e$ports, more fun
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 15 2013 18:25 GMT
#498
On May 15 2013 23:07 Doodsmack wrote:
That the OP would even think about continuing to play SC2 despite all this is a testament to the addictive power of video games. Lol seriously, why the FUCK are you still playing SC2 bro? Are you that addicted to this game? And why does your gf allow you to play? Something is wrong here.


Competitive multiplayer games are the most addictive by far.
Zystra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom79 Posts
May 15 2013 18:32 GMT
#499
Oh shit, get the kids inside, he's playing SC2 again...
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
May 15 2013 19:01 GMT
#500
On May 15 2013 18:01 SeXyBaCk wrote:
To the OP:

I appreciate you are absolutely convinced it's just the game that makes you angry, and it might indeed appear so, as you as are - as you describe a productive and responsible adult otherwise. However, as with all unhealthy emotional reactions that humans can suffer from, the trigger isn't the cause, and often times the trigger doesn't even hint at the cause but is rather a faulty circuit your psyche has created to deal with a subconscious psychological conflict to vent the excessive negative emotion that is pent up.

The short answer is, for all the kind words, no one here can help you deal with or fix your problem. From what you have described, there's a real risk here of you harming yourself further, it's imperative that you seek professional counsel e.g. a therapist, preferably a psychiatrist who can help you discover the underlying reasons for your anger. This might be very hard to do and will take a substantial amount of time but you will grow from it. You might doubt that there are any underlying reasons but I'm certain there are, the behaviour you describe is so far removed from adequate behaviour, it's a given.

You need to figure out why you're angry and learn to relieve your anger in a healthy fashion. And my advice as an MD would be to do so sooner rather than later. You might indeed learn to stop raging while playing starcraft on your own, but 5 years from now it might all return when your 18 month old has spilt her juice all over her highchair or your wife talks back to you in a way you don't like, and at that point you might not only be at risk of harming yourself but others as well.

edit: seeing that you're from the US, not knowing your healthplan works, I suggest getting in touch with your insurance first and ask them how you can get yourself psychiatrically explored, you might have to go see your family physician first. Just tell him/her what you told the forum.


I believe he is right, but this is on the long run so you should start it asap.

On May 09 2013 09:01 Lauriel wrote:
Losing several games in a row and often times to cheeses or strategies that prevent me from practicing what I want can set it off. That's the biggest thing.


However, you have to learn when to stop, you are feeling the urge to imitate hulk after a few loses then stop playing before that. Cheeses? sorry, nothing you can do about them, is part of the game deal with it or just quit that game and play again.

You want to practice certain strategy, get a friend to practice with.

Good luck!.
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
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