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On May 13 2013 18:37 aka_star wrote:
You look yourself in the mirror and say 'I am a loser' repeat it a few times over a number of days when you lose and eventually that crushes your competitive spirit and you end up not caring as much. Eventually you realize it just a stupid game and question why people take it so seriously, then you'll end up uninstalling it before the next expansion and only watch streams. You'll be happier for it and able to help other people with similar issues by passing on this advice.
I don't think this is very good advice. 
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Kinda funny I asked this exact same question on the TL Strategy forum and on the Blogs section months ago and got badmouthed and called a fucking asshole.
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Upon further reading your responses, just quit the game. This is not normal nor worth the frustration you go through. This game is just not for you.
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On May 09 2013 09:14 MaestroSC wrote:
I feel I get pretty heated when I ladder... but never to anything even close to ur levels of rage...
but then again My parents would whoop my ass if I threw temper tantrums. (and I was one of those kids...who was quiet and friendly and the good one... until my tolerance/patience dam broke and then I would Lose it... like having my older brother who is 6" taller and about 80LB's heavier, in a corner crying as I stand over him with a baseball bat)
But then I turned like 10...and realized throwing temper tantrums is silly and childish.... so I don't punch random things and turn into a raging psycho anymore.
IDK why everyone is giving you so much advice/sympathy when its as simple as "Ur not 5 anymore, temper tantrums are bad!"
ITS LITERALLY A CHOICE. Just don't act like a psychopath when you play video games.
Did you not have older brothers growing up? Cause if you lived at my house, after you lost your shit one of the older siblings would have corrected this behavior pretty much immediately once you were at an age where it was ok to hit you hard in the arm/chest.
Don't understand all of the sympathy you are getting, for acting like a 5 year old in the breakfast cereal aisle.
maybe you should pay a large friend to put you in a chokehold everytime u throw a temper tantrum... should correct this problem of yours eventually.
You're an idiot. If people could be disciplined or controlled so easily when they lose, then why did Greg Fields get kicked from EG?
It's not as easy as clicking your fucking fingers. Else rage wouldn't be a thing. Ever thought of that? It's not such a simple matter and is far more complex than you'd expect it to be.
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On May 09 2013 09:01 Lauriel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 08:55 Whatson wrote:
What makes you rage like this? Is it because you find some strategy to be really stupid, do you feel like you outplayed your opponent but still lost, or are you more frustrated by your own mistakes?
EDIT: Or are you just made whenever you lose, regardless of the reason? It depends. Losing several games in a row and often times to cheeses or strategies that prevent me from practicing what I want can set it off. That's the biggest thing.
This can be a big thing. Don't expect anything. Go into practice completely open-minded. As soon as you set yourself within the boundaries that expectation places you in, you will get angry and frustrated if things don't go as planned. "Roll with it." If he cheeses, look at the cheese, accept it for what it is. Don't think of things as "strategies that prevent you from practicing what you want.
Throw off your expectations.
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On May 14 2013 03:13 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 09:14 MaestroSC wrote:
I feel I get pretty heated when I ladder... but never to anything even close to ur levels of rage...
but then again My parents would whoop my ass if I threw temper tantrums. (and I was one of those kids...who was quiet and friendly and the good one... until my tolerance/patience dam broke and then I would Lose it... like having my older brother who is 6" taller and about 80LB's heavier, in a corner crying as I stand over him with a baseball bat)
But then I turned like 10...and realized throwing temper tantrums is silly and childish.... so I don't punch random things and turn into a raging psycho anymore.
IDK why everyone is giving you so much advice/sympathy when its as simple as "Ur not 5 anymore, temper tantrums are bad!"
ITS LITERALLY A CHOICE. Just don't act like a psychopath when you play video games.
Did you not have older brothers growing up? Cause if you lived at my house, after you lost your shit one of the older siblings would have corrected this behavior pretty much immediately once you were at an age where it was ok to hit you hard in the arm/chest.
Don't understand all of the sympathy you are getting, for acting like a 5 year old in the breakfast cereal aisle.
maybe you should pay a large friend to put you in a chokehold everytime u throw a temper tantrum... should correct this problem of yours eventually. You're an idiot. If people could be disciplined or controlled so easily when they lose, then why did Greg Fields get kicked from EG? It's not as easy as clicking your fucking fingers. Else rage wouldn't be a thing. Ever thought of that? It's not such a simple matter and is far more complex than you'd expect it to be.
You acknowledge that you personally have little control of some of the ways you behave. Thats you. Dont press your idea of how we cant control ourselves on us.
Also, calling people a straight up "Idiot" pretty much resigns yourself to the mindset of an adolescent.
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i'd suggest owning a boxing bag in your gaming room and whenever you lose to let lose on it.
just keep your heels up and always move from side to side to give you something to focus on other than the striking.
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Hello !
Nice post. I m not sure if I am the right person to give advices, since I never hard any rage issues similar to yours.
However : if I were you, I would read this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
Try to build something that suits you. I don't know, random ideas :
- Drink A TONS OF WATER each day (it's good for you anyway), and don't go to the toilets unless you lose and rage. (lol, but seriously.)
- Make supplies of your favorite snack, and eat it when you r angry. NEVER eat it unless you r in a losing streak on SC2.
- You can probably think of something better.
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three words: PROFESSIONAL PSYCOLOGICAL HELP
if op isn't just trolling, thats the only sensible thing to do, four you and the people around you.
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I really don't get why this 'wonderful girl' is dating such a fucking asshole like OP.
I bet you start punching and slamming and yelling at her too.
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Just stop playing and become a spectator and fan. You will enjoy StarCraft II more
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On May 14 2013 03:38 Snotling wrote:
three words: PROFESSIONAL PSYCOLOGICAL HELP
if op isn't just trolling, thats the only sensible thing to do, four you and the people around you.
Do you know how expensive a shrink is?
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On May 14 2013 05:31 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 03:38 Snotling wrote:
three words: PROFESSIONAL PSYCOLOGICAL HELP
if op isn't just trolling, thats the only sensible thing to do, four you and the people around you. Do you know how expensive a shrink is?
Shrinkwrap is cheaper and makes funny noises when you-- wait? what are we talking about?
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You can't realistically get mad at a game where even the best players don't always win lol. No one, in BW or SC2, has been undefeated for any significant span of time, ever. You think practice partners never took games off Flash? Lol.
So when you play ladder, you are worse than Flash, and you still lose? Oh fucking well hahaha. It's EXPECTED. You just have unrealistic expectations you have to manage.
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Yeah, we're too spoiled by most video games. SC2 is not forgiving in that sense. You will win and you WILL lose. Can't deal with it? Not the game for you.
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Psychological problems, it's not what people on forums can help with, imho. You need help or really quit the thing which makes you behave like that. Simple.
Btw, i don't believe that only games cause you to behave like that, rage is a trigger on some kinda scenario, regardless of the field it takes place in. BUT if it's only games... for christ's sake, are you a masochist to continue to put yourself through it all? It might ruin your life. God forbid anyone elses.
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It's interesting how StarCraft seems to be able to incite such rage, to where people who don't have problems with any other games get furious at this game. I read some threads about this a while ago, it's probably a combination of several factors:
1. It's a Demanding Game
SC requires your absolute full attention, always. No matter how intensely you play, you are aware that the game demands more from you than you can physically or mentally deliver. Your body responds with adrenaline and an activated fight-or-flight response.
2. There's Only One Winner
No matter how you slice it, one person is going to lose the game. No matter how confident or brilliant the two players are, one will emerge a winner and the other a loser, and there are no points or accolades for losing by a small or large margin.
3. You Are Forced to Admit Defeat
Unless you wait for every single one of your buildings to explode, the way to leave a game of SC requires you to surrender to your opponent, acknowledging his win and cementing your awareness of your loss at the same time.
4. It Requires a Huge Time Investment
Learning to play StarCraft even at an average level is much harder than most people give themselves credit for. Playing at a high level is harder than many University courses you could take, and the sheer time investment you need to learn the basics alone, the hundreds and thousands of games to just scratch the surface, can frustrate many people who believe they should be rewarded for this effort.
5. It's Always Your Fault
When you lose, it's often very hard for people to take responsibility for their loss, especially after the extended period of heightened effort and anxiety that preceded it. The first, and most common response, is to blame the game, even though people know that a better player could have won with one hand tied behind his back. The reason you lost always traces back to a mistake (or series of mistakes) that you made, that the opponent (knowingly or not) capitalized on. However, as many people find it hard to take responsibility for things, they often flame the developers or players.
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Of course as stated before, these are conventions, but if we're looking for the "reasons" for the rage, you don't have to look much farther than this. Long story short, your body's physiology is responding to the demanding and ruthless "survival of the fittest" situation it finds itself in, which is what it naturally does. When you lose and you no longer need the chemicals, you suddenly find yourself sitting at your computer with a wounded ego and adrenaline in your veins. What do you think that leads to?
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On May 14 2013 03:00 Clbull wrote:
Kinda funny I asked this exact same question on the TL Strategy forum and on the Blogs section months ago and got badmouthed and called a fucking asshole.
Read your blog. It's reasonable why people called you an asshole because you were an asshole. There is rage when you take it out on yourself, like in OP's case, banging his fist on the table. Then there's people who lash out at other people, that's BM. Raging and taking it out on your opponent is much worse than taking it out on yourself.
How goes the games Lauriel? You should keep us posted on your mood while you play now. Ever since IdrA got the cut for his own issues rage has become quite the topic.
I honestly wish I could tell you guys a sure fire way to stop raging at a video game, but really I can only describe it as "snapping" one day and just not feel ticked off by anything. It's not a progressive type of thing, it just happens. I have never heard of a person slowly changing a personality trait of their's through some procedure. They either except their personality trait or dismiss it, or they don't even know they had a choice to do so in the beginning and may or may not refuse to see the fact that they have a choice. To me it's like an on and off switch. I shock myself times when I realize how calm and collected I am after losing to an all-in in ZvZ, 6pool with like 4 drones pulled and 2 spines down. That was one of the biggest triggers to make me flip my table over, and now with my switch turned off I simply just grumble a bit say my 'gg', think about it and remind myself to do this and this next time I spot it with my ovie.
There are times when I turn the switch back on though. Of course I never do any of that fist slamming anymore, but it's more like scolding. I play WoW Arena with my buds pretty competitively, and I remember this one time with lost to something for the 4 th time in a row. I was pretty pissed, because it was something we had seen over and over yet we still weren't prepared for it. My friends did their usual "damn, ugh, goddammit, I dunno man" routine and queued up for another game. I put my foot down and addressed the issue, and we worked together to get a solution. Not necessarily the rage we have in mind, but I still think that it counts as rage because I'm emotionally fired up and I'm in a state of mind where I could say things that are meaningless in terms of improvement. Here I took that emotion and tried to use it constructively. I was pissed, I don't get pissed for real that often when it came to Arena, my teammates could feel it so they listened carefully and responded accordingly.
Constructive rage and blind rage, let's use those token words.
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I didn't mean that point personally, I just find the whole thing a double standard from the community...
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Mmm it kinda is a double standard but it's really not that severe of a double standard since both types of rage are really not okay lol.
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