Call to Action: May 2 Balance Testing - Page 25

On May 04 2013 03:34 IdrA wrote:
he's always been full retard

On May 04 2013 04:21 ImperialFist wrote:
Buff oracle speed?

What is next? Marines get +4 attack since we feel that their dps is too low atm?

On May 04 2013 03:55 c0sm0naut wrote:



it gives you the option to spore the fuck out of a base and yolo attack with everything. before, it was nearly impossible to win base trade vs Mutalisk, noww it is at least a reaslitic idea

On May 03 2013 14:02 D4V3Z02 wrote:
Come on Blizzard, just make burrow like siege.

On May 04 2013 04:50 _Search_ wrote:


No kidding.

If burrow didn't require an upgrade they would have never needed to buff queens.

On May 04 2013 05:06 gamerdude12345 wrote:
so was BW a fluke or did they just know how to make a good strategy game back in 1998?



It would be quite funny to have burrow automatically without an upgrade. Send 1 drone to opponent's base at start of the game, burrow where they would wall off at, flood with lings.

or just put 1 at their expo every game

On May 04 2013 04:18 Malpractice.248 wrote:

Not really. Hes slowly made the game more balanced than it ever was.
Honestly, you just have issues with losing and often time blame balance rather than your play or choices.

Z has been fine. Need slight buffs here and there, maybe, but theres no "glaring weakness" with any race atm. Anyone can win, if you play right.

Id also say; rather than but a stupid, pointless comment out there, give evidence or shit to back it up to open discussion. Otherwise, dont say anything.


Anyway, I think the oracle buff is nice. Youre really spending a lot to go stargate/oracle, and limiting the speed of your +2 upgrades. It should be rewarding. To say it cant be countered by ground units really isnt true. positioning and static defenses become key.
I like the burrow change, would like to see a OL drop cost decrease, as well.
Would also like to see a slight Widow nerf, and maybe 25 energy to afterburner... And maybe drop contaminate to 100 energy, or make Overseers a tad cheaper.

AND MAKE OVERSEERS MAINTAIN SWEET SKIN OF OVERLORD TY

On May 04 2013 05:06 gamerdude12345 wrote:
so was BW a fluke or did they just know how to make a good strategy game back in 1998?

On May 04 2013 05:32 Flonomenalz wrote:

A fluke. Quite similar to how Halo CE/2 were flukes, and turned out to be the best Halo games competitively though community found glitches. Then Bungie pulled a Blizzard and went full retard with Halo 3/Reach, and 343 went pretty full retard with Halo 4 as well.

On May 04 2013 05:30 Flonomenalz wrote:

IdrA has voiced his concerns plenty in the past. The OL speed buff and queen range buff back in WoL were fixes to TvZ that he had been arguing for monthsss before they were instilled (his debate with Day9 on SotG). Although his method of speech can be quite blunt (and occasionally inappropriate), it's pretty obvious that a lot of what he says turns out to be correct and has been implemented in one way or another.

Moving on from that, I have no idea how you can agree with Blizzard's reasoning that the Oracle buff is nice. The reason it needs to be somewhat counterable by ground units is because of the difficulty of scouting in TvP. Unscouted oracles are already tough enough to deal with, they do not need to be any stronger.

On May 04 2013 05:37 testthewest wrote:


How can you say the queen buff was good for WoL? It was the end of any harass and we only saw that lame endgame composition with mass infestors, since you couldn't touch a good zerg anymore inearly game.
About the oracle: Speed is needed, because if they can't flee from Mutalisks, oracles are kinda useless in PvZ.
Furthermore: It's always good if terran is forced to build something else then just MMM, even if it is only a turret and a viking (that's basically all it needs - and the starport is needed anyway, while the stargate is a dead end vs terran).

Why not be open and let the good players test it.