EPTMaybe NASL should invite some of the shafted Chinese players for their next season, so that the Chinese players still have playing opportunities.
TL Interview with iG.Edison on WCS NA - Page 3
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Bagration
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Maybe NASL should invite some of the shafted Chinese players for their next season, so that the Chinese players still have playing opportunities. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:51 Mangooze wrote: Sorry, forgot sarcasm doesn't work in text. You're completely right obviously. The situation itself is shameless, but the way MLG reacted after is really scary. I'd honestly edit that post, if I were you because there are ignorant people who feel that that 'apology' was enough. Anyway, I hope that Blizzard does step in. MLG doesn't even understand that there was a problem with this (as evidenced by that 'apology'), let alone have done something to fix it. It is a very unfortunate situation for the Chinese scene as well as the other players who were knocked out because of incompetence and poor communication. Also, hopefully we can see a statement from Blizzard regarding what they can do with preventing hackers too. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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 ... ... ... ... ...Also, let's not forget that RootPuck also wasn't able to sign up due to MLG. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
That's such a huge change in direction ... I really don't know what's going on there | ||
digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:55 yawnoC wrote: What went wrong? The manager just told you what went wrong. They didn't register at the same time MacSeed did because he didn't fully understand the rules and thought he was registering his whole team for an individual event. Which is the opposite of what people were originally saying. Both sides did things wrong. The apology didn't need to address every detail. They said they fucked up, they said they will improve for next time. If they don't that is when we really have to be up in arms with MLG and Blizzard. MLG Gamebattles system is not even designed for starcraft, it is for halo, cod and lol, it is very very easy to misunderstand that the "team" actually means the participating individual not an actual team, especially if you didn't play in gamebattles before, MLG didn't even prepare their system for this tournament. Please refrain from making statements without understanding the context. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:57 Undead1993 wrote: And MLG reserved spots, JUST LIKE ESL DID, for specific players who they have dealt with in the past... why is that hard to understand?LOL he still said that they registered 1 day before the koreans and the koreans were in the bracket they were not. srsly "both sides did thing wrong" god damn it. | ||
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digmouse
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Advantageous
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EnPassant
Germany3 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:04 yawnoC wrote: And MLG reserved spots, JUST LIKE ESL DID, for specific players who they have dealt with in the past... why is that hard to understand? Difference is, that there were a lot more people allowed to participate in EU qualifiers. Also, this should be about fair competition and not about connections to "important" people at MLG. MLG just handled the whole thing unprofessional and intransparent. I really don´t think they should get away with this. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:29 Serimek wrote: Blizzard is more to blame than MLG from what I understand, but it's true that MlG fucked up with this qualifier in general. I don't think blizzard is to blame. They took a hands off approach running the qualifiers because they assumed their partners were competent enough to run an online qualifier. They were right with ESL, but were wrong with MLG. Blizzard is only at fault because they didn't micro manage it, but they shouldn't be expected to because they assumed MLG knew how to run an online qualifier. They were obviously wrong and now they both have egg on their faces. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:57 digmouse wrote: Under review for release, should be released very soon. digmouse, you who seem to know well the Chinese scene (thank you for the translation job btw), do you think there's enough players to create a worthy WCS CN ? (I'm asking this just by sheer curiosity, I don't think it will happen, nor it will be a good thing anyway) | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:10 EnPassant wrote: Difference is, that there were a lot more people allowed to participate in EU qualifiers. Also, this should be about fair competition and not about connections to "important" people at MLG. MLG just handled the whole thing unprofessional and intransparent. I really don´t think they should get away with this. it's unbelievable that there are still people defending mlg after this mess and this pseudo apology. I can't understand what they are thinking. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:11 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think blizzard is to blame. They took a hands off approach running the qualifiers because they assumed their partners were competent enough to run an online qualifier. They were right with ESL, but were wrong with MLG. Blizzard is only at fault because they didn't micro manage it, but they shouldn't be expected to because they assumed MLG knew how to run an online qualifier. They were obviously wrong and now they both have egg on their faces. You know what they say about assuming right? That's like that time I let my kid brother write my history paper. I assumed he knew enough about 16th century politics in the Ottoman empire. It turns out I still got the bad grade. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:18 Rescawen wrote: Go ahead and ask them! I am sure they would love some help from someone like you  Haha! I don't speak a lick of Chinese nor have any way to contact them :B, but thanks! I would have definitely followed through if I could. | ||
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:12 Serimek wrote: digmouse, you who seem to knows well the Chinese scene (thank you for the translation job btw), do you think there's enough players to create a worthy WCS CN ? (I'm asking this just by sheer curiosity, I don't think it will happen, nor it will be a good thing anyway) Definitely yes, just see WCS 2012 Chinese qualifier, if there is a WCS 2013 Chinese qualifier and national playing on HotS the number of participants will only be significantly larger. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:11 Canucklehead wrote: I don't think blizzard is to blame. They took a hands off approach running the qualifiers because they assumed their partners were competent enough to run an online qualifier. They were right with ESL, but were wrong with MLG. Blizzard is only at fault because they didn't micro manage it, but they shouldn't be expected to because they assumed MLG knew how to run an online qualifier. They were obviously wrong and now they both have egg on their faces. From the interview, it appears that iG.Edison was under the impression that Blizzard China was going assist him in getting his players into the qualification bracket. Its unclear if they did anything, but there appears to be some miscommunication somewhere. iG.Edison was not aware of the 64 slots that MLG reserved for specific players and Blizzard China didn’t tell him about them. MLG seems to have been completely oblivious that the Chinese players even signed up, which is a little dumb too. I would say that Blizzard is responsible for giving iG.Edison the impression that they would help get his players into the bracket. MGL is responsible to grossly underestimating the number of people that were going to sign up. iG.Edison should likely have taken more time to read the rules and maybe has someone else who understood English as well as him check his work. If anyone had done a better job on any of those fronts, this all would have been avoided. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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JustPassingBy
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On April 25 2013 03:19 Plansix wrote: From the interview, it appears that iG.Edison was under the impression that Blizzard China was going assist him in getting his players into the qualification bracket. Its unclear if they did anything, but there appears to be some miscommunication somewhere. iG.Edison was not aware of the 64 slots that MLG reserved for specific players and Blizzard China didn’t tell him about them. MLG seems to have been completely oblivious that the Chinese players even signed up, which is a little dumb too. I would say that Blizzard is responsible for giving iG.Edison the impression that they would help get his players into the bracket. MGL is responsible to grossly underestimating the number of people that were going to sign up. iG.Edison should likely have taken more time to read the rules and maybe has someone else who understood English as well as him check his work. If anyone had done a better job on any of those fronts, this all would have been avoided. Actually both Blizzard and MLG are to blame for the fact that the Chinese players were left out of the bracket, both parties made false promises (Blizzard claiming that they would help them, MLG claiming that they are "good to go"). Who knows, had Edison known that his players were left out in time, and had he reacted fast enough, we probably wouldn't be in this mess right now. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On April 25 2013 03:10 EnPassant wrote: I only agree that not enough people were allowed to participate. MLG did what they felt was the fairest for them and the time frame they had. They obviously made mistakes, and they admitted to them (i.e should have had more spots in the qualifier). If they just had more spots Chinese players would have gotten in. That is that.Difference is, that there were a lot more people allowed to participate in EU qualifiers. Also, this should be about fair competition and not about connections to "important" people at MLG. MLG just handled the whole thing unprofessional and intransparent. I really don´t think they should get away with this. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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On April 25 2013 03:26 yawnoC wrote: I only agree that not enough people were allowed to participate. MLG did what they felt was the fairest for them and the time frame they had. They obviously made mistakes, and they admitted to them (i.e should have had more spots in the qualifier). If they just had more spots Chinese players would have gotten in. That is that. So Blizzard told them that they were not allowed to hold the qualifier on Friday? Or the days before that, for that matter. | ||
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