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TL Interview with iG.Edison on WCS NA - Page 2

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#21
Man, I wish I could help manage these players and team, it sucks so hard to lose out on opportunity over misreading the terms or shitty bad luck through issues with registering/communication (as they had with MLG).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
April 24 2013 17:18 GMT
#22
On April 25 2013 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Man, I wish I could help manage these players and team, it sucks so hard to lose out on opportunity over misreading the terms or shitty bad luck through issues with registering/communication (as they had with MLG).


Go ahead and ask them! I am sure they would love some help from someone like you
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
April 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#23
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
April 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#24
On April 25 2013 02:04 Cattlecruiser wrote:However, "Chinese players are even more hard-working than Koreans".
Come on now. If you were so confident about their abilities, you would have tried to qualify for WCS KR like Swim did.
Yeah, they could have just taken the train over the the qualifiers like all the Koreans did, pay a couple bucks... Wait, no, that's not true at all.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:29:29
April 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#25
Regardless of the organizations/persons/circumstances to blame, it is unfortunate for those Chinese players. I wish them best of luck in the future. I hope none of this happens again. I really want to see the Chinese SC2 scene flourish.
China fighting!
T P Z sagi
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 24 2013 17:29 GMT
#26
On April 25 2013 02:11 Fatlord wrote:
never liked MLG


Blizzard is more to blame than MLG from what I understand, but it's true that MlG fucked up with this qualifier in general.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
April 24 2013 17:37 GMT
#27
I have no faith in MLG anymore..At all..
Have a nice day ;)
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:50:33
April 24 2013 17:44 GMT
#28
On April 25 2013 02:25 Mangooze wrote:
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...


A public apology full of fluff and of no actual substance, that provided no new information regarding what went wrong or how they'll attempt to mitigate the damage already done. I honestly don't understand how any rational individual can look at that supposed apology and see it as anything more than a bunch of cookie-cutter nonspecific drivel that companies release all the time when they dun goof.

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
April 24 2013 17:45 GMT
#29
Well it is good of him to finally accept fault for his players not registering ASAP but it's really passive aggressive to say things like "This interview is not to bash MLG; we hope all tournaments could be more professional and mature" and I laugh at assertions of "deserved tournament rights".

It's also kinda sad he feels running down other players (saying the Chinese "have superior results and notability") to make his argument. Personally I'm not so sure winning WCS China 2012 is more impressive than say, just making GSL Code A.
SystemXN
Profile Joined December 2011
China105 Posts
April 24 2013 17:46 GMT
#30
On April 25 2013 02:04 Cattlecruiser wrote:
The incident was unfortunate and sloppy from both MLG and Blizzard China.
The Chinese players/teams aren't blameless either. In the end couple Chinese players should be really upset.

However, "Chinese players are even more hard-working than Koreans".
Come on now. If you were so confident about their abilities, you would have tried to qualify for WCS KR like Swim did.

Living in Korea to play Code B and Code A(if qualified) for a long time costs a lot of money, while the situation of Chinese scene is not good, Chinese teams have no interest in sending players to Korea, they would rather put these money to LoL and Dota.

In fact, there are only 3 SC2 teams in China now:iG,WE and Zoo. However, WE focusing on LoL now and only has 2 SC2 players(LoveCD and Loner), Zoo is a half-amateur team running by former progamer LoveTT, only iG is in a stable situation, but the team is also focusing on Dota2 and LoL, the only reason iG still run SC2 team is the coach Edison's efforts.


I dont know why you mention Swim here, maybe you misunderstand him as Taiwanese. Swim is a Korean played for Wayi Spider Korea before and now playing for Samsung Khan after Wayi Spider disbanded.
MarineKing | Bomber | MVP | Gumiho
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 24 2013 17:51 GMT
#31
On April 25 2013 02:25 Mangooze wrote:
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...


I posted a poll about how the community feels about it and which solutions could be chosen for (although it is prob. never gonna happen)..

On April 24 2013 00:43 govie wrote:
Regarding the WCS-NA qualifiers, i have made a 2polls, which could reflect the opinion of the community.

Poll: Does the WCS-NA Qualifiers invalidate the WCS-tournament?

Yes (111)
 
83%

No (23)
 
17%

134 total votes

Your vote: Does the WCS-NA Qualifiers invalidate the WCS-tournament?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Poll: In which way should MLG try to undo what has been done

Organise WCS-NA qualifiers again. (81)
 
58%

Let comm play his final match (no extra actions required) (32)
 
23%

In another way not defined above (20)
 
14%

None of the above (or not MLG fault) (6)
 
4%

139 total votes

Your vote: In which way should MLG try to undo what has been done

(Vote): Organise WCS-NA qualifiers again.
(Vote): Let comm play his final match (no extra actions required)
(Vote): In another way not defined above
(Vote): None of the above (or not MLG fault)


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Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
April 24 2013 17:51 GMT
#32
On April 25 2013 02:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 02:25 Mangooze wrote:
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...


A public apology full of fluff and of no actual substance, that provided no new information regarding what went wrong or how they'll attempt to mitigate the damage already done. I don't honestly understand how any rational individual can look at that supposed apology and see it as anything more than a bunch of cookie-cutter nonspecific drivel that companies release all the time when they dun goof.


Sorry, forgot sarcasm doesn't work in text. You're completely right obviously. The situation itself is shameless, but the way MLG reacted after is really scary.
feij
Profile Joined April 2013
China4 Posts
April 24 2013 17:53 GMT
#33
i think we chinese now only need the chance to play on international tournament,but not pity,we are not begging,just asking the right what we deserved to
Zenith_Zaephyr
Profile Joined March 2013
13 Posts
April 24 2013 17:53 GMT
#34
Can someone tell me why HoTs is still not released in China ? It's available in all the continents already. So what's the matter with that ?
Fear is the mind killer
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
April 24 2013 17:53 GMT
#35
Very interesting interview. This whole ordeal is a big shame, I would have loved to see Chinese players compete in the WCS. Hopefully their situation will improve for the second season, but that doesn't make it suck less right now.
Random master race
Luzian
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 17:55:33
April 24 2013 17:54 GMT
#36
Usually the community drama passes me by barely being noticed.

However, this time I am truly saddened. Just think about all the effort and hard work from the Chinese players just to not even have a chance... You can barely compare eastern and western work ethics and iG additionally has to struggle against all odds while many NA casuals could participate simply for the sake of it.

A reminder that life often is not fair.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
April 24 2013 17:55 GMT
#37
On April 25 2013 02:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 02:25 Mangooze wrote:
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...


A public apology full of fluff and of no actual substance, that provided no new information regarding what went wrong or how they'll attempt to mitigate the damage already done. I honestly don't understand how any rational individual can look at that supposed apology and see it as anything more than a bunch of cookie-cutter nonspecific drivel that companies release all the time when they dun goof.

What went wrong? The manager just told you what went wrong. They didn't register at the same time MacSeed did because he didn't fully understand the rules and thought he was registering his whole team for an individual event. Which is the opposite of what people were originally saying. Both sides did things wrong. The apology didn't need to address every detail. They said they fucked up, they said they will improve for next time. If they don't that is when we really have to be up in arms with MLG and Blizzard.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 24 2013 17:57 GMT
#38
On April 25 2013 02:55 yawnoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 02:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 25 2013 02:25 Mangooze wrote:
Oh come on, MLG make a public apology, get over it already. What else can you ask from them...


A public apology full of fluff and of no actual substance, that provided no new information regarding what went wrong or how they'll attempt to mitigate the damage already done. I honestly don't understand how any rational individual can look at that supposed apology and see it as anything more than a bunch of cookie-cutter nonspecific drivel that companies release all the time when they dun goof.

What went wrong? The manager just told you what went wrong. They didn't register at the same time MacSeed did because he didn't fully understand the rules and thought he was registering his whole team for an individual event. Which is the opposite of what people were originally saying. Both sides did things wrong. The apology didn't need to address every detail. They said they fucked up, they said they will improve for next time. If they don't that is when we really have to be up in arms with MLG and Blizzard.

LOL he still said that they registered 1 day before the koreans and the koreans were in the bracket they were not. srsly "both sides did thing wrong" god damn it.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
April 24 2013 17:57 GMT
#39
Good interview. So sad...
They should get them chance to get to league again, or give any good players good spot next qualifiers. Whenever it's.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
April 24 2013 17:57 GMT
#40
On April 25 2013 02:53 Zenith_Zaephyr wrote:
Can someone tell me why HoTs is still not released in China ? It's available in all the continents already. So what's the matter with that ?

Under review for release, should be released very soon.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
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