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TL Interview with iG.Edison on WCS NA - Page 7

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semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 21:47:48
April 24 2013 21:32 GMT
#121
It seems they maybe changed their ChallengerLeague Qualifier, if it is up to date at the website WCS America Season 1 - MLG
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WCS America Open Qualifier for Challenger League

Registration opens Thursday, April 25 at 5pm ET

The WCS America Open Qualifier for Challenger League will feature 512 players competing online in a single elimination bracket and will be FREE to enter.
Registration: only Masters and Grandmasters players may register

Registration opens Thursday, April 25 at 5pm ET online.
Registration will close on Friday, April 26 at 5pm ET.
In order to be included in the bracket, all registered players must check-in between 10:00 AM and 12:30 PM on Saturday, April 27.

Prizing:

Top eight players will advance to play in the Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier on May 4.



Note: A select group of players will automatically be granted entry into the Open Qualifier including players beaten by competitors who were disqualified in the first WCS America qualifier, and select Chinese players who were not able to compete in the first qualifier.


Edit: The thing i dont get is, why there have to be an Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier after there was an Open one to find the People. So some players seem to get extra care so they get seeded into something like "second round of the Qualifier", still not equal terms for all players, cause some have to go through 2 Qualifiers. And people who got screwed over in the PremierLeague Qualifier only get into the Open..bla and have to run through 2 Qualifiers now.
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
April 24 2013 21:33 GMT
#122
Just feels like racism to me. Many many non-chinese players broke rules and didn't get DQ'd. Letting silver league players in instead of chinese pros, letting other pros in who registered AFTER the chinese players...
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
April 24 2013 21:37 GMT
#123
Hope that chinese players will qualifie to the challenger division.
I would say that Blizzard should give some spot directly into the challenger division to chinese players but it would be unfair to other players

gogo china, beat all of these american chobo :D
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 24 2013 21:45 GMT
#124
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:


Awesome. That is great news. Good on Sundance for addressing the issue and getting the players that missed out into challenger qualifier.
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
April 24 2013 21:47 GMT
#125
yeah great "hey guys, we didn't let you try to qualify for Premier, so hey, we will let you play to try to get into the subleague. Hope you're happy ! Are we even now ?"

...
NoiR
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 24 2013 21:55 GMT
#126
Well, I had too little faith apparently (challenger bracket now has an open qualification into the invite-only). but it's still a victory because now they are doing things better (also proves my point that they could of changed on short notice)
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semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 24 2013 21:55 GMT
#127
It's not optimal but better than nothing.

They can't repair the fuckups they did 100% so now atleast they do some damage control for the bad treated players. If u get into Challenger in Season1 it's still way better than having to wait for Season2 start to try and qualify for it.

Still i see some problem with the System of OpenQualifier gets 8 places into InviteOnly-Qualifier, how do they select the people who are already in the InviteOnly-Qualifier, if from the PremierLeague Qualifier than its really shady.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 21:57:03
April 24 2013 21:56 GMT
#128
NVM I'm dumb
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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
April 24 2013 22:03 GMT
#129
On April 25 2013 01:51 Tppz! wrote:
i hope blizz will do something about this.even if it needs to get rid of mlg or the current code a qualifier system which is still a huge f***up

I would cheer if MLG lost the rights to host WCS America. NASL all the fucking way. Their worst tournament, NASL Season 2, was far better than the shitshow MLG put on.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 22:05:22
April 24 2013 22:04 GMT
#130
On April 25 2013 06:55 semmeL wrote:
It's not optimal but better than nothing.

They can't repair the fuckups they did 100% so now atleast they do some damage control for the bad treated players. If u get into Challenger in Season1 it's still way better than having to wait for Season2 start to try and qualify for it.

Still i see some problem with the System of OpenQualifier gets 8 places into InviteOnly-Qualifier, how do they select the people who are already in the InviteOnly-Qualifier, if from the PremierLeague Qualifier than its really shady.

Towards Comm, there's an easy way. Force a best of 7 rematch between him and TheStC. Winner gets the seed that Comm could have earned if MLG's retarded admins didn't disqualify him.

As for those knocked out by PhysicsLee and HyuN, two illegitimate players... give them free Challenger Division seeds.
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 24 2013 22:08 GMT
#131
On April 25 2013 07:04 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 06:55 semmeL wrote:
It's not optimal but better than nothing.

They can't repair the fuckups they did 100% so now atleast they do some damage control for the bad treated players. If u get into Challenger in Season1 it's still way better than having to wait for Season2 start to try and qualify for it.

Still i see some problem with the System of OpenQualifier gets 8 places into InviteOnly-Qualifier, how do they select the people who are already in the InviteOnly-Qualifier, if from the PremierLeague Qualifier than its really shady.

Towards Comm, there's an easy way. Force a best of 7 rematch between him and TheStC. Winner gets the seed that Comm could have earned if MLG's retarded admins didn't disqualify him.

As for those knocked out by PhysicsLee and HyuN, two illegitimate players... give them free Challenger Division seeds.


I think the same with Comm and the other statement. But how i know MLG and how they showed to react at first, i don't think that this is realistic.

They also couldve added x-amount of players for a bigger first round in PremierLeague and ran a second Qualifier, better organized, for these spots and let more people drop from Premier into Challenger for the first season. But i don't know if wishing for something like that is realistic.
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 22:13:51
April 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#132
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167299847077888
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167820670570497



There we go! Very nice imho.
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 24 2013 22:21 GMT
#133
On April 25 2013 07:11 CounterOrder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167299847077888
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167820670570497



There we go! Very nice imho.


Still only a Qualfier for a Qualifier not directly into Challenger.... Who are the already invited Players and why, outcome of the PremierLeagueQualifier is really questionable to seed them into the Invite stage of the Qualifier already.
Again only 1 Qualifier, so if u run into an unknown Hacker or have tougher Bracket u can still get screwed. They could've run 2 or 4 Qualifiers and give the 8 or 4 top finishers the spots already into the ChallengerLeague itself instead going to play into another Qualifier yet again.
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
April 24 2013 22:41 GMT
#134
On April 25 2013 07:21 semmeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:11 CounterOrder wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167299847077888
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167820670570497



There we go! Very nice imho.


Still only a Qualfier for a Qualifier not directly into Challenger.... Who are the already invited Players and why, outcome of the PremierLeagueQualifier is really questionable to seed them into the Invite stage of the Qualifier already.
Again only 1 Qualifier, so if u run into an unknown Hacker or have tougher Bracket u can still get screwed. They could've run 2 or 4 Qualifiers and give the 8 or 4 top finishers the spots already into the ChallengerLeague itself instead going to play into another Qualifier yet again.



Aw snap. I didnt realize it was a qualifier for the challenger i thought they got invited into the challenger.

hmmmm
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
April 24 2013 23:41 GMT
#135
On April 25 2013 07:41 CounterOrder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:21 semmeL wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:11 CounterOrder wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167299847077888
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167820670570497



There we go! Very nice imho.


Still only a Qualfier for a Qualifier not directly into Challenger.... Who are the already invited Players and why, outcome of the PremierLeagueQualifier is really questionable to seed them into the Invite stage of the Qualifier already.
Again only 1 Qualifier, so if u run into an unknown Hacker or have tougher Bracket u can still get screwed. They could've run 2 or 4 Qualifiers and give the 8 or 4 top finishers the spots already into the ChallengerLeague itself instead going to play into another Qualifier yet again.



Aw snap. I didnt realize it was a qualifier for the challenger i thought they got invited into the challenger.

hmmmm
Well, if people believed they had a chance to get into Premier they should have no trouble in the "weaker" event. Right?
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
April 25 2013 01:02 GMT
#136
I Strongly think that the Chinese guys are the ones to stand a chance against Top Koreans cuz of their hard work and dedication but because of things like that the foreign scene looks even more lost against the best of the best
"Fight your heart out for what you want"
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
April 25 2013 01:32 GMT
#137
On April 25 2013 08:41 yawnoC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:41 CounterOrder wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:21 semmeL wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:11 CounterOrder wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:28 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167299847077888
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/327167820670570497



There we go! Very nice imho.


Still only a Qualfier for a Qualifier not directly into Challenger.... Who are the already invited Players and why, outcome of the PremierLeagueQualifier is really questionable to seed them into the Invite stage of the Qualifier already.
Again only 1 Qualifier, so if u run into an unknown Hacker or have tougher Bracket u can still get screwed. They could've run 2 or 4 Qualifiers and give the 8 or 4 top finishers the spots already into the ChallengerLeague itself instead going to play into another Qualifier yet again.



Aw snap. I didnt realize it was a qualifier for the challenger i thought they got invited into the challenger.

hmmmm
Well, if people believed they had a chance to get into Premier they should have no trouble in the "weaker" event. Right?

Hahaha if I wanted to pick on this, I'd say that the premier qualifiers included players below masters League, whereas the challenger qualifiers is masters and up, making it a harder event :D
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
April 25 2013 01:55 GMT
#138
This just sounds like a really bad situation and not just by MLG. That MLG made mistakes with other players, particularly Koreans, is irrelevant to Chinese players.

I might point out in the midst of all the controversy that Chinese players are free to qualify in the EU next time. Or they could always try their luck at GSL. The drift policy also works to allow players to "vote with their feet" what makes them unhappy.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
April 25 2013 02:46 GMT
#139
On April 25 2013 10:02 EpicDemente wrote:
I Strongly think that the Chinese guys are the ones to stand a chance against Top Koreans cuz of their hard work and dedication but because of things like that the foreign scene looks even more lost against the best of the best

All 3 Chinese players who participated in the Premier qualifier made it into top 12, the only other foreigner to do so is Demuslim. And I believe more than half of the Premier foreign invites can't do it.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
April 25 2013 02:49 GMT
#140
It would be sick if iG was on top of the world in both SC2 and Dota 2. It's sad that now we won't get to see them get a chance to attain that.

Good luck with the appeal and such.
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