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WCS China champion Comm DQ'ed from WCS America - Page 16

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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 22 2013 04:39 GMT
#301
CTRL+F "Joke"

Was not disappointed. I should do more data on whether or not the people who said that are from EU or US, etc. HMMM
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
bongling
Profile Joined March 2013
41 Posts
April 22 2013 04:41 GMT
#302
the only reason he had to resort to smurfing was because the qualifiers were so poorly thought out and executed. if you are going to do a single small qualifying bracket, which i think is silly, you should do it right and make sure pro's don't end up in this situation. they brought this upon themselves and i see this as a major failure which only hurts the game as a whole and is due to incompetence more than anything. poor guy gets his dreams crushed due to retardation and all some people can say are rules be rules. hopefully something magical can happen, not feeling too optimistic though.
Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
April 22 2013 04:43 GMT
#303
On April 22 2013 13:35 shadymmj wrote:
So your response to bad tournament organisation is to break the rules, is that what you mean? :/

The other guy was Comm's mentor. He wanted to give up his spot to his teacher so he could play instead. Comm wasn't maliciously trying to trick anyone. The player who had the spot wanted to give it up to help with the problem of bad tournament organization. This is clearly NOT the type of situation the rule was made for. The rules were not made with bad tournament organization in mind.

The principles behind why the rule was made do not really apply to the situation at hand, which is the reason why people are irritated. Thus we see the intrinsic problem with rules, they are too ridged sometimes. Whereas they may be made to address one issue, they have an other negative consequences due to their inflexibility and inability to adapt to new situations.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
April 22 2013 04:44 GMT
#304
What I'm confused about is that since Comm told everyone he played who he was then...why did MLG wait until he was in the finals before DQing him?
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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
April 22 2013 04:45 GMT
#305
MLG has done a shitty job with this tournament.

That being said, they need to follow their rules. Allowing an exception here will lead to further rule-breaking in the future. Especially when it comes to smurfing.... otherwise you could lead to future issues

For example, a pro could register two smurfs (and no main account), play under both, and then use the one that got further, pretending that the one that did more poorly was a random nobody.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 22 2013 04:46 GMT
#306
That's pathetic.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
bongling
Profile Joined March 2013
41 Posts
April 22 2013 04:50 GMT
#307
Also it's not like reinstating him would sully the sanctity of the tournament, since there was a hacker in there aswell as Hyun somehow managing to knock multiple people out before someone realised, oh shit, he played in the GSL last week.
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
April 22 2013 04:52 GMT
#308
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 04:53:09
April 22 2013 04:52 GMT
#309
On April 22 2013 13:50 bongling wrote:
Also it's not like reinstating him would sully the sanctity of the tournament, since there was a hacker in there aswell as Hyun somehow managing to knock multiple people out before someone realised, oh shit, he played in the GSL last week.

The Hyun fiasco is perhaps the more embarrassing mistake they made. =X
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#310
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
April 22 2013 04:59 GMT
#311
On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.


You don't. A lot of others do. Not to mention hordes of Chinese people.
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
April 22 2013 05:09 GMT
#312
On April 22 2013 13:59 KanoCoke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.


You don't. A lot of others do. Not to mention hordes of Chinese people.

This is a SHOCK to national pride in China. 27,500 people watched the NeoTV Star League. This took 2 weeks before the NASL in December 2012, and they only climaxed at 35,000 viewers at the time. I can't even begin to pull numbers together for the Battle.net World Championships in Shanghai for 2012.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
April 22 2013 05:12 GMT
#313
Tournament was poorly run overall. These aren't "minor bumps," but rather a direct insult to this industry.

On April 22 2013 13:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Oh my gawd Comm didn't get to play

What a joke MLG is

I'm done with you Sundance

*stamps feet and runs to mommy*


On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.


Yeah, the world revolves around you, doesn't it? You're actually a retarded bigot.



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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 22 2013 05:13 GMT
#314
On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.

It's a video game tournament to a spectator, not to someone that does this fulltime. Twat.
Refer to my post.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 22 2013 05:13 GMT
#315
On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.

That's your second comment with "didn't get to play" + "lol China ppl who cares about them?!". First of all, they DID get to play, so that's not the issue. The issue is your beloved US tournament was hard limited to 512 players and there were more candidates, so it became "the first who registered got in, the rest - better luck next time", which is a complete joke and has nothing to do with skill in Starcraft or what country you are from.

You only hear about these Chinese players because they are famous enough, but you can bet many US players who are not as famous also got snubbed out of the bracket, because they weren't lucky enough to be among the first 512 registered.
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NewTypeBeez
Profile Joined February 2013
United States35 Posts
April 22 2013 05:19 GMT
#316
WCS NA has just been a huge let down. Really disappointed
So many things have gone wrong, I hope they seriously look at how poorly this went in order to not make the same mistakes twice.
"The old generation can't build the new era!" - Char Aznable
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 22 2013 05:20 GMT
#317
Of course we could attempt a boycott, but I doubt anybody would actually do it. Too afraid to lose their precious entertainment from the rest of the qualifiers etc? Won't happen, but it'd be nice.
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
April 22 2013 05:21 GMT
#318
you know something is wrong when the first rounds of your tournament are "who can register the fastest".
they could at least have had a restriction to masters players only, or pre-signups for pros / semipros.
because in the end, all this is is a qualifier and everyone knows that unknowns won't get to qualify in the end (and yes it's a totally different situation when it's about a direct tournament, where participating makes you proud : who the fuck cares you played a qualifier if you are diamond, this gives you no pride, but the possibility to play in a MLG or whatever other tour shouldn't be exclusive to pros)
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 05:24:36
April 22 2013 05:22 GMT
#319
On April 22 2013 14:13 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 13:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On April 22 2013 13:52 Kyir wrote:
Thanks for making our entire regional scene look even worse MLG. Really appreciate it.


lol so dramatic. Some Chinese players didn't get to play...do I care? Not really. It's just one video game tournament. Life will go on.

That's your second comment with "didn't get to play" + "lol China ppl who cares about them?!". First of all, they DID get to play, so that's not the issue. The issue is your beloved US tournament was hard limited to 512 players and there were more candidates, so it became "the first who registered got in, the rest - better luck next time", which is a complete joke and has nothing to do with skill in Starcraft or what country you are from.

You only hear about these Chinese players because they are famous enough, but you can bet many US players who are not as famous also got snubbed out of the bracket, because they weren't lucky enough to be among the first 512 registered.

Adding to that, each of the 512 players who entered had to pay 20 USD to get in, so how much money did MLG make off of that? 488 x 20... almost a thousand dollars for making a faulty entry mechanism on a website.

I can't help but feel slightly ashamed for feeding this troll. Europe is massively larger (skillwise) than the U.S.A.

The only way to make everybody happy is to actually revert to the system that WCS 2012 had in place for that year.

On April 22 2013 14:21 Toxi78 wrote:
you know something is wrong when the first rounds of your tournament are "who can register the fastest".
they could at least have had a restriction to masters players only, or pre-signups for pros / semipros.
because in the end, all this is is a qualifier and everyone knows that unknowns won't get to qualify in the end (and yes it's a totally different situation when it's about a direct tournament, where participating makes you proud : who the fuck cares you played a qualifier if you are diamond, this gives you no pride, but the possibility to play in a MLG or whatever other tour shouldn't be exclusive to pros)


This. I do casting for a Taiwanese-based tournament known as the ASL and if you want to enter, you have to fit one of the following criteria: A) Be GM on the Mainland China server B) Be GM on the SEA server or C) Be a 1000 point master's league player on the Korean server.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
April 22 2013 05:32 GMT
#320
super nice tournament you got Blizzard. Seems like MLG is not able to handle a Tournament of that size.
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