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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 20 2013 20:44 GMT
#81
On April 21 2013 05:41 jalen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:40 Chaggi wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:39 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:36 Chaggi wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:
a big shame that MLG didn't put in some masters+ league restriction (I think GSL code A required 1000+ points or something?) Really don't see why it's worth giving the more casual players a seed when there are much more dedicated players who would love an opportunity to compete in an open bracket. All this is doing is hurting the amateur/ up-and-coming players from the NA, China, and SEA scenes who didn't happen to register in the first couple of hours.


GSL is 300+ point master I believe.


GSL qualifiers has master level restrictions indeed.


but it wasn't enforced as heavily for foreigners (if at all) in WoL. Not sure about HoTS. Then again, there was maybe like 2-3 foreigners max at the Code A qualifiers.

IG.JIM is a top100 Grandmaster on kr server and IG.XY is 1700+ master on kr server.


yeah I just meant it used to be easy to go to Code A qualifiers even as a non-pro, completely separate from this because me and my friends have tried to participate in them. It's completely unfair that Jim and XY were left out.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 20 2013 20:44 GMT
#82
On April 21 2013 05:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On April 21 2013 05:18 Klipsys wrote:
But really this isn't that big of a deal. Yes they made a mistake. No use crying about it now. They'll fix it for next year. This is how it works, nothing is perfect the first time


Next year? How about next season? How about next qualifier? Is it really that big a deal to double the player capacity, making it just like the EU one?



Oh yeah that makes more sense. I thought this was a yearly thing.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#83
That is fine, I want NA players to get in, players in China will just take money and it goes to china....And frankly they get enough for that through everything I buy.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
April 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#84
Comm who won WCS China also was left out
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
April 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#85
I see some heads rolling.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#86
On April 21 2013 05:40 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:39 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:36 Chaggi wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:
a big shame that MLG didn't put in some masters+ league restriction (I think GSL code A required 1000+ points or something?) Really don't see why it's worth giving the more casual players a seed when there are much more dedicated players who would love an opportunity to compete in an open bracket. All this is doing is hurting the amateur/ up-and-coming players from the NA, China, and SEA scenes who didn't happen to register in the first couple of hours.


GSL is 300+ point master I believe.


GSL qualifiers has master level restrictions indeed.


but it wasn't enforced as heavily for foreigners (if at all) in WoL. Not sure about HoTS. Then again, there was maybe like 2-3 foreigners max at the Code A qualifiers.


Do the GSL qualifiers even fill up to capacity? I remember a lot of first round walkovers in the bracket.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 20 2013 20:46 GMT
#87
Really I don't see anyone here argueing against how bad of a fuckup that was, I mean really there is no room for an opinion here. First of all if you don't want any restrictions, thats fine. I think everyone deserves a shot at making it into something big, even if the chances are next to none. But if you leave no restrictions to skill/nationality (not talking about players that chose another region) you better don't make a restriction yourself ... like number of players.

Seriously why would you hold a 512 player tournament as a qualifier? ESL did handle 2048 .., easily. Major Gaming League with a major fuckup, it cannot be spelled out otherwise.
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
April 20 2013 20:46 GMT
#88
On April 21 2013 05:22 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:18 Klipsys wrote:
But really this isn't that big of a deal. Yes they made a mistake. No use crying about it now. They'll fix it for next year. This is how it works, nothing is perfect the first time


It's not a big deal for you, an amateur who can sit home, and watch games freely. It matters a lot to people who are PROFESSIONALS wanting a chance.

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On April 21 2013 05:20 CerpinTaxt wrote:
Oh no! A Chinese player got left out of the North American Qualifiers!


Are you retarded?



I agree that it's unfortunate for these players but really, what can be done about it at this point? It's fair to point it out as a lapse in judgment and a mistake but complaining about it really won't change anything right now. Better off just voicing our concerns and hope they fix it for next time. Or maybe have a second qualifier.
Hudson Valley Progamer
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#89
This has to be solved by MLG generously. These are only 3 Chinese Pros, right? The deal was that China gets no qualifier, but that they (like everyone else) can play in the EU/US qualifier instead. This feels extremely unfair towards China.
Pik
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany176 Posts
April 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#90
On April 21 2013 05:45 HeeroFX wrote:
That is fine, I want NA players to get in, players in China will just take money and it goes to china....And frankly they get enough for that through everything I buy.

wow, just wow...
wow, this gank is gonna be easy....
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
April 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#91
On April 21 2013 05:45 HeeroFX wrote:
That is fine, I want NA players to get in, players in China will just take money and it goes to china....And frankly they get enough for that through everything I buy.


What the fuck?
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SKTelecomT1Rain
Profile Joined April 2013
China17 Posts
April 20 2013 20:48 GMT
#92
http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-1114091-1-1.html there are some screenshots
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 20 2013 20:48 GMT
#93
On April 21 2013 05:44 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:41 jalen wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:40 Chaggi wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:39 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:36 Chaggi wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:35 Erik.TheRed wrote:
a big shame that MLG didn't put in some masters+ league restriction (I think GSL code A required 1000+ points or something?) Really don't see why it's worth giving the more casual players a seed when there are much more dedicated players who would love an opportunity to compete in an open bracket. All this is doing is hurting the amateur/ up-and-coming players from the NA, China, and SEA scenes who didn't happen to register in the first couple of hours.


GSL is 300+ point master I believe.


GSL qualifiers has master level restrictions indeed.


but it wasn't enforced as heavily for foreigners (if at all) in WoL. Not sure about HoTS. Then again, there was maybe like 2-3 foreigners max at the Code A qualifiers.

IG.JIM is a top100 Grandmaster on kr server and IG.XY is 1700+ master on kr server.


yeah I just meant it used to be easy to go to Code A qualifiers even as a non-pro, completely separate from this because me and my friends have tried to participate in them. It's completely unfair that Jim and XY were left out.

Visa, and money is the issue i think, if they can qualifier this the Team will found them to go US to attend the tournament. IG is focus on Dota2 i think, sc2 is just a little part of it.
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 20 2013 20:49 GMT
#94
On April 21 2013 05:48 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:
http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-1114091-1-1.html there are some screenshots

already edit in this thread
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
April 20 2013 20:49 GMT
#95
Very sad for China and embarassing for MLG.
Was hoping that Xigua would qualify in eu, but sadly didnt happen.
Would be a shame if chinese players missed the na qualifier.
The 512 player limit is pretty stupid to begin with btw.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 20:50:03
April 20 2013 20:49 GMT
#96
nvm
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BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#97
If MLG were going to limit to 512 players, they need to let the best players in , not a first come first serve. There's tons of nobodies in the bracket, and now these talented programers are left out. Just sad

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[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#98
On April 21 2013 05:49 jalen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:48 SKTelecomT1Rain wrote:
http://bbs.neotv.cn/thread-1114091-1-1.html there are some screenshots

already edit in this thread


make sure to list all the points and images in the threads.
It shall be seen by more fans of SCII.
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 20:57:11
April 20 2013 20:56 GMT
#99
On April 21 2013 05:47 Fenrax wrote:
This has to be solved by MLG generously. These are only 3 Chinese Pros, right? The deal was that China gets no qualifier, but that they (like everyone else) can play in the EU/US qualifier instead. This feels extremely unfair towards China.

Actually, more like at least 8 people who signed up Not sure if there's anymore, though, at least 2 of them were able to play in the qualifiers.

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yuxiyulanhua
Profile Joined April 2013
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:03:23
April 20 2013 20:57 GMT
#100
As a mid master in US, i feel MLG stupid when i see diamond players in the bracket while other profs are not qualified. Is MLG rebuilding a mini ladder for BLZ or holding a professional game for SC2 fans? JIM used to be among top 3 in KR ladder! Do you guys watch the ACT a few days ago when he killed Suppy, Hyun, JD and some other Code S players with only 80% effort? If you ask Maru BBong Creator and other profs in Prime, you'll know how strong the teen is.

Moreover, Jim and XY are asked if they are GSL code S players after refused. Does MLG have over 500 S players? This is the biggest joke I've heard.
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