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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 20 2013 21:06 GMT
#121
On April 21 2013 06:04 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:04 syllogism wrote:
Was MLG informed about the credentials of these players? They probably looked at NA ladder and only saw Macsed.

Read the OP please.

I've read it repeatedly and it doesn't really address the question. I've already said that I think MLG made a mistake and should do something about it, but I'm also trying to understand the process that lead to the mistake.
jalen
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia222 Posts
April 20 2013 21:06 GMT
#122
On April 21 2013 05:57 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:56 Weirdkid wrote:
On April 21 2013 05:47 Fenrax wrote:
This has to be solved by MLG generously. These are only 3 Chinese Pros, right? The deal was that China gets no qualifier, but that they (like everyone else) can play in the EU/US qualifier instead. This feels extremely unfair towards China.

Actually, more like at least 8 people who signed up Not sure if there's anymore, though, at least 2 of them were able to play in the qualifiers.

iG.Macsed
iG.Jim
iG.Xy
Tyloo.Infi
Comm
Ash
Zoo.Courage
Zoo.Top


Macsed played EU

thats xigua
Why don't you play other Dota kind games? Because there is no Denies!!!!
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
April 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#123
This is another reason why a registration fee would have been a good idea.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#124
It is indeed silly to deny actual pros (who were enlisted correctly and showed up in time, didn't make any mistakes) over some diamond players.

It's pretty outrageous - they need to get at least Challenger seeds as compensation!
MLG should be ashamed -.-
Get off my lawn, young punks
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#125
On April 21 2013 06:06 BakedButters wrote:
MLG told them they are in the bracket, and now they are not. They think they could resolve this by giving them challenger spots, lol. That's means they missed out for an opportunity to play for thousands of dollars due to this screw.

And now they are locked in for this season


Yes, I actually think they cannot 'not solve' this. They have to step in.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:09:14
April 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#126
On April 21 2013 05:57 Fenrax wrote:
Also go to reddit and upvote:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/


technically it's against /r/starcraft rules to tell other ppl explicitly to "upvote" something -_-?

or does that only apply to the OPs -_-?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#127
On April 21 2013 06:06 BakedButters wrote:
MLG told them they are in the bracket, and now they are not. They think they could resolve this by giving them challenger spots, lol. That's means they missed out for an opportunity to play for thousands of dollars due to this screw.

And now they are locked in for this season


Nice summary indeed. Appreciate your posts.
指原莉乃 應援
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 20 2013 21:10 GMT
#128
On April 21 2013 06:06 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:04 grs wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:04 syllogism wrote:
Was MLG informed about the credentials of these players? They probably looked at NA ladder and only saw Macsed.

Read the OP please.

I've read it repeatedly and it doesn't really address the question. I've already said that I think MLG made a mistake and should do something about it, but I'm also trying to understand the process that lead to the mistake.

Ok, sorry, that was a bit rude. Their team manager asked if they were in beforehand and got a confirmation. That is what the screens in the OP shall show.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 20 2013 21:10 GMT
#129
On April 21 2013 06:07 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:57 Fenrax wrote:
Also go to reddit and upvote:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/


technically it's against /r/starcraft rules to tell other ppl explicitly to "upvote" something -_-?

or does that only apply to the OPs -_-?

It's not against TL rules to tell people on TL to upvote stuff on /r/starcraft, is it?
Get off my lawn, young punks
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#130
On April 21 2013 06:07 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:57 Fenrax wrote:
Also go to reddit and upvote the thread there./


technically it's against /r/starcraft rules to tell other ppl explicitly to "upvote" something -_-?

or does that only apply to the OPs -_-?


I have no clue how reddit exactly works. Edited my post.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
April 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#131
On April 21 2013 05:52 BakedButters wrote:
If MLG were going to limit to 512 players, they need to let the best players in , not a first come first serve. There's tons of nobodies in the bracket, and now these talented programers are left out. Just sad


Nobodies is fine, if they are skilled nobodies.
How else do you make a name?
The problem is the diamond or lower nobodies.

MLG seriously screwed up.
The whole process has been pretty poor from the very start in terms of how everything has been organised, this is just yet another disorganised mess of the WCS 2013 system. Blizzard had an idea and decided to run with it, and forgot that these things need time and organisation.

Now these guys (as well as others previously) get screwed over/messed about because Blizzard and their partners didn't work things out properly before they launched into the whole WCS thing.

It's a nice idea, but it needed actual thought put into it before it was launched.
HOLY CHECK!
Liam!
Profile Joined March 2012
United States20 Posts
April 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#132
On April 21 2013 05:45 HeeroFX wrote:
That is fine, I want NA players to get in, players in China will just take money and it goes to china....And frankly they get enough for that through everything I buy.


On April 21 2013 05:20 CerpinTaxt wrote:
Oh no! A Chinese player got left out of the North American Qualifiers!


Are you people for real?
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:13:02
April 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#133
We should just boycott WCS and Blizzard events at this point. The WCS Europe qualifiers have been a complete fucking joke up to this point due to the way they've ran their qualifiers and now we have entry into WCS America governed literally by just one 512 man bracket qualifier tournament.

Consider the fact that leagues and players have genuinely been fucked over by Blizzard's plans. Why is ESL, an organisation that has hosted tournaments of sometimes questionable quality around the world, picked over Dreamhack, an organisation that has hosted some of the best produced SC2 tournaments in the world?

And what about WCS America? Imagine how much better it would have been if NASL as well as MLG were producing it? That's right, leave out the only other influential league in favour of an exclusivity deal. And what stake do IPL's former staff have to play in this too?

Oh and what about players like Scarlett who genuinely planned to play in GSL but can't because she was invited to WCS America?
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
April 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#134
On April 21 2013 06:07 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 05:57 Fenrax wrote:
Also go to reddit and upvote:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crcp0/chinese_players_left_out_of_wcs_america_qualifier/


technically it's against /r/starcraft rules to tell other ppl explicitly to "upvote" something -_-?

or does that only apply to the OPs -_-?



From: http://www.reddit.com/rules

"Don't ask for votes or engage in vote manipulation.
[–] What does vote manipulation look like?
NOT OK: Buying votes or using services to vote.
OK: Sharing reddit links with your friends.
NOT OK: Sharing links with your friends or coworkers and asking them to vote.
NOT OK: Creating submissions such as "For every upvote I will ..." or "... please upvote this!", regardless of the cause."

So yeah it's against the rules, though this is kind of important.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:12:43
April 20 2013 21:12 GMT
#135
EDIT: Accidential double post.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 20 2013 21:12 GMT
#136
On April 21 2013 06:11 Clbull wrote:
We should just boycott WCS and Blizzard events at this point. The WCS Europe qualifiers have been a complete fucking joke up to this point due to the way they've ran their qualifiers and now we have entry into WCS America governed literally by just one 512 man bracket qualifier tournament.

Consider the fact that leagues and players have genuinely been fucked over by Blizzard's plans. Why is ESL, an organisation that has hosted tournaments of sometimes questionable quality around the world, picked over Dreamhack, an organisation that has hosted some of the best produced SC2 tournaments in the world?

And what about WCS America? Imagine how much better it would have been if NASL as well as MLG were producing it? That's right, leave out the only other influential league in favour of an exclusivity deal. And what stake do IPL's former staff have to play in this too?


Don't know how WCS Europe was a joke. Compare it to WCS NA and you see whats worse, and really I don't think WCS EU qualifiers were run badly.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 20 2013 21:12 GMT
#137
On April 21 2013 05:57 yuxiyulanhua wrote:
As a mid master in US, i feel MLG stupid when i see diamond players in the bracket while other profs are not qualified. Is MLG rebuilding a mini ladder for BLZ or holding a professional game for SC2 fans? JIM used to be among top 3 in KR ladder! Do you guys watch the ACT a few days ago when he killed Suppy, Hyun, JD and some other Code S players with only 80% effort? If you ask Maru BBong Creator and other profs in Prime, you'll know how strong the teen is.

Moreover, Jim and XY are asked if they are GSL code S players after refused. Does MLG have over 500 S players? This is the biggest joke I've heard.

The reason he probably asked if they were Code S is because he was going to say "if they played in Code S, then they can't play in the qualifier anyway".
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
April 20 2013 21:14 GMT
#138
On April 21 2013 06:07 betaman wrote:
This is another reason why a registration fee would have been a good idea.


There was a registration fee for the NA qualifier, wasn't there?

I thought it was $18.75?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#139
On April 21 2013 06:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:07 betaman wrote:
This is another reason why a registration fee would have been a good idea.


There was a registration fee for the NA qualifier, wasn't there?

I thought it was $18.75?

They retracted that after the public outcry over this outrageous amount. I didn't understand the fuss about it, but that's what we got as a result, I guess.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#140
On April 21 2013 06:14 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:07 betaman wrote:
This is another reason why a registration fee would have been a good idea.


There was a registration fee for the NA qualifier, wasn't there?

I thought it was $18.75?


Pretty sure it was removed after EU said there wasn't going to be one and MLG followed
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