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Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
April 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#161
MLG: Getting in our tournament is harder than winning the tournament.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 20 2013 21:53 GMT
#162
On April 21 2013 06:47 Holy_AT wrote:
Why should chinese players even be allwed to qualify in american WCS or did I understand something wrong, I thought there were qualifiers for all the regions ?
So I think its okay not to take in non reginal players, I mean we also dont let brazil play in europe soccer championship ?
Or did I understand the WCS wrong ?


There is no WCS China, there is only Korea, NA and EU. Blizzard opened up each region to plays from anywhere, so if you're not European or Korean (many exceptions there) then you're probably going to play in NA.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33627 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 21:57:07
April 20 2013 21:54 GMT
#163
Chinese players all of the players on one hemisphere of the earth have to play NA because they would have to be physically present in KR to play KR
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#164
On April 21 2013 06:53 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:47 Holy_AT wrote:
Why should chinese players even be allwed to qualify in american WCS or did I understand something wrong, I thought there were qualifiers for all the regions ?
So I think its okay not to take in non reginal players, I mean we also dont let brazil play in europe soccer championship ?
Or did I understand the WCS wrong ?


There is no WCS China, there is only Korea, NA and EU. Blizzard opened up each region to plays from anywhere, so if you're not European or Korean (many exceptions there) then you're probably going to play in NA.

iaguz, you didn't get in either? This thread equally concerns you SEA guys, MLG really needs to address this issue!

(still know you from CoH btw )
Get off my lawn, young punks
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#165
On April 21 2013 06:25 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:21 grs wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:11 Clbull wrote:
We should just boycott WCS and Blizzard events at this point. The WCS Europe qualifiers have been a complete fucking joke up to this point due to the way they've ran their qualifiers and now we have entry into WCS America governed literally by just one 512 man bracket qualifier tournament.

Consider the fact that leagues and players have genuinely been fucked over by Blizzard's plans. Why is ESL, an organisation that has hosted tournaments of sometimes questionable quality around the world, picked over Dreamhack, an organisation that has hosted some of the best produced SC2 tournaments in the world?

And what about WCS America? Imagine how much better it would have been if NASL as well as MLG were producing it? That's right, leave out the only other influential league in favour of an exclusivity deal. And what stake do IPL's former staff have to play in this too?

Oh and what about players like Scarlett who genuinely planned to play in GSL but can't because she was invited to WCS America?

The EU qualifier was done very well. Maybe you can make a better esport organization, running for almost 20 years now. Start today.


No point in that, though. Dreamhack was a better organization at making tournaments and it didn't get them anywhere. WCS Europe was okay, but I can understand that the frustration about how things are handled around WCS adds up.

Much about it feels artificial, forced and/or unprofessional.


You do realize that running a tournament is not the same as running a league?
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia999 Posts
April 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#166
MLG online running of qualifiers continues to be abysmal, is anyone surprised?
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mcleod
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada350 Posts
April 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#167
not only did EU allow more people to play, they had 4 qualifiers compared to NA which has 1

MLG did such a terrible job running this qualifier its embarrassing
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#168
On April 21 2013 07:01 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 06:25 Fenrax wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:21 grs wrote:
On April 21 2013 06:11 Clbull wrote:
We should just boycott WCS and Blizzard events at this point. The WCS Europe qualifiers have been a complete fucking joke up to this point due to the way they've ran their qualifiers and now we have entry into WCS America governed literally by just one 512 man bracket qualifier tournament.

Consider the fact that leagues and players have genuinely been fucked over by Blizzard's plans. Why is ESL, an organisation that has hosted tournaments of sometimes questionable quality around the world, picked over Dreamhack, an organisation that has hosted some of the best produced SC2 tournaments in the world?

And what about WCS America? Imagine how much better it would have been if NASL as well as MLG were producing it? That's right, leave out the only other influential league in favour of an exclusivity deal. And what stake do IPL's former staff have to play in this too?

Oh and what about players like Scarlett who genuinely planned to play in GSL but can't because she was invited to WCS America?

The EU qualifier was done very well. Maybe you can make a better esport organization, running for almost 20 years now. Start today.


No point in that, though. Dreamhack was a better organization at making tournaments and it didn't get them anywhere. WCS Europe was okay, but I can understand that the frustration about how things are handled around WCS adds up.

Much about it feels artificial, forced and/or unprofessional.


You do realize that running a tournament is not the same as running a league?


Nah a weekender tournament runs like a month long league ! All the same. I can already imagine Dreamhack running it. Changing location every week and all the fancy stuff with Hosts and everything, even in the qualifiers.
But with all those Dreamhack comments, I am really curious how the qualifiers would have looked. Doubt anyone can beat ESL on that ground though. Well except an ESL with no debts :x .

To stay atleast a bit on topic, wish I could see more Chinese players especially without server lag.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
April 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#169
Wasn't there a WCS China last year? Why aren't they making another one? Unless it's because HotS isn't released in China yet (I have no idea)?
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 20 2013 22:15 GMT
#170
wow, this is just pathetic.

WCS is doing an awfully good job at alienating the Chinese fanbase for SC2.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
April 20 2013 22:16 GMT
#171
Makes me pretty sad, these guys have no chance to play anywhere else now, have been playing ( and dominating ) on NA ladder to get used to the delay and now its all for nothing, 1 shot and they missed it. Pretty sad for them T_T certainly because Jim and macsed are so fucking good
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Xercen
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom375 Posts
April 20 2013 22:19 GMT
#172
Blizzard already decided that WCS NA EU KR should have universal entry. For those who say NA should only be for americans or canadians. that's your opinion but blizzard has other plans for the WCS.

There is no WCS China so chinese players should have been allowed entry to the WCS NA qualifier due to their progamer status. Why let some amateur gamers in diamond or master league enter instead of top GM kr/tw server chinese players?

It's absolutely mind boggling that this has occurred!

I do like the WCS EU qualifiers though and even though i'm from EU, they have been entertaining.

If you were a true starcraft 2 fan then you would want the best professional sc2 gamers to qualify regardless of nationality and sex.

snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
April 20 2013 22:19 GMT
#173
MLG's policy regarding signups is farcical. Absolutely ridiculous.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
April 20 2013 22:19 GMT
#174
On April 21 2013 06:48 Swagasaurus wrote:
I think the issue is MLG not sticking to what their website/rules said. It was supposed to be the first 512 people that signed up would be able to play, but apparently some of the famous pros (koreans) were let in regardless of their signup. Same thing happened to my friend, we signed up virtually the same minute and were both well within the first 512 signups but I was seeded into the bracket and he wasn't. If it's true that these chinese players all signed up in time that's really shitty by MLG.

I tried talking to one of the admins about this issue but he told me that none of the admins know anything about seeding and that some of the more known players were let in because 'they may have been invited players'. Seems pretty silly for a supposedly open qualifier.

Seems like no one knows what the hell they are doing/supposed to be doing at MLG, so it all went to shit.
HOLY CHECK!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 20 2013 22:23 GMT
#175
There's something fishy about how MLG has run the qualifiers. It's ridiculous. telling your players that they are in the tourney but they are not, changing the spots to registration first, but allowing well known players some saved spots. Everything stinks.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:29:43
April 20 2013 22:23 GMT
#176
Why is it so hard to run one tournament, when you've had years in the business? Pretty much every aspect of WCS has been wrought with stupidity in some fashion, it's absolutely crazy.

I feel for all of the pro gamers who are affected, in China and elsewhere.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 20 2013 22:25 GMT
#177
On April 21 2013 04:44 badDogma wrote:
I had no idea IG is spreading out from DotA into SC2. This could be amazing. Although I'm sure there are better ways to get your question answered than "rly MLG...rly??".

iG has had a sc2 team for over 3 years as far as I'm aware.
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
April 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#178
Uhm, kick the lower league amateurs, insert these amazing players into bracket with rematches in the respective brackets. This is absolutely not cool by MLG, and giving Challenger spots to these guys is just plain rude.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#179
pretty big fuck up of the "i told this guy but he didn't tell the other guy" sort.
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Oxslow
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
April 20 2013 22:42 GMT
#180
MLG need to give an official response how such a big mistake can be made. I really feel for the people that they were in and it was confirmed then they find out oops your not in after all.
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