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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 22:48:47
April 20 2013 22:48 GMT
#181
I purposely held from saying anything about small fuck ups from ESL, because i knew that something like 2048 qualifer is almost unheard of.

Also they ran few of them (other were smaller though).

When i saw that MLG had 512 bracket i thought the will run at least few of them, is it not the case? Is it 1 and only? Really?
Stork[gm]
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 20 2013 22:53 GMT
#182
On April 21 2013 07:48 bgx wrote:
I purposely held from saying anything about small fuck ups from ESL, because i knew that something like 2048 qualifer is almost unheard of.

Also they ran few of them (other were smaller though).

When i saw that MLG had 512 bracket i thought the will run at least few of them, is it not the case? Is it 1 and only? Really?


Just one for the premier division but MLG is doing double elim.
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 20 2013 22:59 GMT
#183
I feel so bad for the chinese players/scene.They have some really talented players and considering there are some half assed amatuers that don't belong in this qualifier just makes this extra sad. MLG should issue some kind of response to this news.
"Right on" - Morrow
1v1Alpha
Profile Joined October 2012
33 Posts
April 20 2013 23:00 GMT
#184
JIM out of WCS, this is unacceptable blizzard. We lost a serious contender there, and also whats up with just one stream casting such a huge bracket. NASL casters could have casted, and some other ones should have as well. So many good games being missed. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 20 2013 23:05 GMT
#185
On April 21 2013 08:00 1v1Alpha wrote:
JIM out of WCS, this is unacceptable blizzard. We lost a serious contender there, and also whats up with just one stream casting such a huge bracket. NASL casters could have casted, and some other ones should have as well. So many good games being missed. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.

Don't you mean MLG? They are the ones organization the NA qualifier, not Blizzard.
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elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
April 20 2013 23:16 GMT
#186
On April 21 2013 08:05 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 08:00 1v1Alpha wrote:
JIM out of WCS, this is unacceptable blizzard. We lost a serious contender there, and also whats up with just one stream casting such a huge bracket. NASL casters could have casted, and some other ones should have as well. So many good games being missed. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.

Don't you mean MLG? They are the ones organization the NA qualifier, not Blizzard.


Axeltoss and Axlav are the permanent MLG sc2 casters. I believe Integra is suggesting they shouldve brought in some of NASL's casters to cast additional games
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
April 20 2013 23:18 GMT
#187
They left out Jim that dude is a beast he took down EG pretty much by himself out of nowhere like 2 months back.
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
April 20 2013 23:19 GMT
#188
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 23:26:22
April 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#189
On April 21 2013 08:19 BeyondCtrL wrote:
Looking at the brackets I see two Chinese players, one Protoss called FruitsBasket and another called ZooTop... who are these players. I don't want to assume, but could it be?

ZooTop is not AZUBU.TOP he is a chinese protoss who came 3rd at wcs China.
Glorious SEA doto
eddwaan
Profile Joined March 2013
18 Posts
April 20 2013 23:27 GMT
#190
I WANT JIMCREDIBLE!
LGIMMvp :D
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 20 2013 23:33 GMT
#191
Can't imagine this sitting well with Blizzard.
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 23:37:16
April 20 2013 23:35 GMT
#192
On April 21 2013 06:11 Clbull wrote:
We should just boycott WCS and Blizzard events at this point. The WCS Europe qualifiers have been a complete fucking joke up to this point due to the way they've ran their qualifiers and now we have entry into WCS America governed literally by just one 512 man bracket qualifier tournament.

Consider the fact that leagues and players have genuinely been fucked over by Blizzard's plans. Why is ESL, an organisation that has hosted tournaments of sometimes questionable quality around the world, picked over Dreamhack, an organisation that has hosted some of the best produced SC2 tournaments in the world?

And what about WCS America? Imagine how much better it would have been if NASL as well as MLG were producing it? That's right, leave out the only other influential league in favour of an exclusivity deal. And what stake do IPL's former staff have to play in this too?

Oh and what about players like Scarlett who genuinely planned to play in GSL but can't because she was invited to WCS America?


Or... How about not boycotting anything before MLG actually provides a response to this?

I watched EU qualifiers every day I think, and from a spectator's viewpoint they were run very smoothly. What is this "way" they ran it that made it a complete fucking joke?

And Scarlett probably decided herself what to after they offered a seed...

Jeez...
It takes a fool to remain sane.
RuFF_SC2
Profile Joined February 2010
United States203 Posts
April 20 2013 23:36 GMT
#193
I didn't get into the WCS either and I qualified last year. I am not sure how that exactly works. I even beat the 2nd place winner Diasuki to go to WCS NA Championship. So it is actually extremely depressing. I also hear that this is the only qualifier atm.
Eat My Metal Foot Mech-Head
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 20 2013 23:56 GMT
#194
You guys are sassing the ESL (english second language), stressed out guy that his thread is not clear enough for you? Wow.

Anyway, WCS EU and NA have both favored non-asians in choice of who gets casted, and who gets support from the tournament organizers. Its been very stressful for some players.

While this looks like a mistake, at the same time I'm certain it wouldn't have happened if the players affected were white.
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
April 20 2013 23:56 GMT
#195
I don't understand why these qualifiers have to be squeezed in to such small time frames.

Why not run them over a week or two...?
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 21 2013 00:12 GMT
#196
On April 21 2013 07:14 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Wasn't there a WCS China last year? Why aren't they making another one? Unless it's because HotS isn't released in China yet (I have no idea)?

No there was no WCS China but the big finals of the whole WCS were in China.
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia996 Posts
April 21 2013 00:12 GMT
#197
On April 21 2013 08:56 Inimic wrote:
You guys are sassing the ESL (english second language), stressed out guy that his thread is not clear enough for you? Wow.

Anyway, WCS EU and NA have both favored non-asians in choice of who gets casted, and who gets support from the tournament organizers. Its been very stressful for some players.

While this looks like a mistake, at the same time I'm certain it wouldn't have happened if the players affected were white.



This happened to loads of white people.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 21 2013 00:15 GMT
#198
On April 21 2013 08:00 1v1Alpha wrote:
JIM out of WCS, this is unacceptable blizzard. We lost a serious contender there, and also whats up with just one stream casting such a huge bracket. NASL casters could have casted, and some other ones should have as well. So many good games being missed. Hope this is not a sign of things to come.

This is MLG's fault, not Blizzard. Blizzard gave the reigns of the WCS to a a tournament organizer in respective region.
US: MLG
Europe:ESL
Korea:GOM/OGN combo
Somehow, only the US side seems to falter, first with sign up fees and now with this.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 21 2013 00:15 GMT
#199
On April 21 2013 04:27 GizmoPT wrote:
another hit to the USA - China relations


Thank you, I lol'd.
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MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
April 21 2013 00:21 GMT
#200
Not surprised lol. Good job mlg. Loving this new system soooooooo much better.......
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