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MIT 2013 eSports panel: Morhaime, Sundance, Twitch - Page 2

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PeachTea
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States149 Posts
March 09 2013 08:05 GMT
#21
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 09 2013 08:07 GMT
#22
On March 09 2013 15:25 Olex wrote:
Sundance is very, very good at talking.


This was well established for me at least ages back.
recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
March 09 2013 08:11 GMT
#23
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.


yea, it seemed he was less prepared, but i really dont blame him. His job requires him to be involved with everything that blizzard does, so d3/wow/business bullshit related stuff that has nothing to do with esports. I don't think a majority of his time goes into the esports side, so i dont expect him to know all the specific details involved with that. I would have rather had dustin browder or someone else from the sc2 team to be there, they would know the subject much more than mike morhaime.

That being said, im not saying that he doesnt care about esports; how could he have the time to dedicate to esports especially since hes the CEO of blizzard.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 09 2013 08:31 GMT
#24
On March 09 2013 17:11 recklessfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.


yea, it seemed he was less prepared, but i really dont blame him. His job requires him to be involved with everything that blizzard does, so d3/wow/business bullshit related stuff that has nothing to do with esports. I don't think a majority of his time goes into the esports side, so i dont expect him to know all the specific details involved with that. I would have rather had dustin browder or someone else from the sc2 team to be there, they would know the subject much more than mike morhaime.

That being said, im not saying that he doesnt care about esports; how could he have the time to dedicate to esports especially since hes the CEO of blizzard.

Pretty much this. Problem is that Mike Morhaime has so much stuff to deal with that he has no other option than to operate on a more general level compared to the others who's only job is to work specifically on Esports. And with that said he prolly knows allot about Esports it's just that the particular perspective of it that was being discussed wasn't the side of Esports he normally deals with as a Blizzard CEO.
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2516 Posts
March 09 2013 12:09 GMT
#25
It was pretty funny watching the Rockies manager just be like errrr what >_> to some of the questions, he doesn't seem to have a very good grasp on business. When the Twitch COO explained to him in detail about a couple of the questions he was just kind of gave a dumb look.

I'd love to hear a longer panel/conservatory just from Sundance himself about the specifics of the business aspect. I doubt he would do it for a few years when the share is more stable and he has more time to do that kind of thing.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 09 2013 13:05 GMT
#26
good show, really handy information for my presation on esports lol^^
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
March 09 2013 14:50 GMT
#27
very impressed, nice work slasher
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
March 09 2013 16:14 GMT
#28
How can you not love Sundance? So handsome, so well spoken <3
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 17:07:45
March 09 2013 17:06 GMT
#29
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.

I'm with you. He looked uncomfortable, and his responses were generic.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2092 Posts
March 09 2013 17:10 GMT
#30
On March 10 2013 02:06 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.

I'm with you. He looked uncomfortable, and his responses were generic.

Agree, i think when he talks he talks like the CEO of Blizzard to a global audience of costumers + investors and not as Mike Morhaime himself personal about eSports and his interpretation of it etc..
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#31
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.

Well he is the CEO of Blizzard so i was honestly surprised he was there at all. He has so much stuff to do that i doubt he has time for Esports except maybe in his free time.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 17:20:46
March 09 2013 17:14 GMT
#32
The girl in the introduction should talk a little bit slower and don't hold some card ;p you can memorize all that stuff easily.
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 17:15:37
March 09 2013 17:15 GMT
#33
I feel like dustin browder would have been the guy to bring along for blizzard, I feel he could convey the message a little better, but oh well, Sundance carried it quite well.
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
March 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#34
soo cool. I hope eSports eventually goes mainstream.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 09 2013 18:03 GMT
#35
I wonder if this means Daryl Morey will be more vested in eSports. That'll be a big push towards going mainstream.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 18:14:16
March 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#36
Damn, that video so hard to watch ;_; its like 240p on 720 ;_;

Might see if there is another way

A note needed btw, when your asking a question or starting a discussion, ask it to someone directly, then say "moving down the line after" to get other peoples points. The pauses in between questions makes it pretty silly where everyone looks at each other and says ermmm ill go. Or engage them more when their answer your question and say "what about your view on this x"

^_^ just nitpicking at the discussion/panel style
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 09 2013 18:21 GMT
#37
I'm very impressed with Sundance's level of knowledge on traditional sports. This man is a marketing machine.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16792 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 18:31:58
March 09 2013 18:27 GMT
#38
On March 10 2013 02:06 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 17:05 PeachTea wrote:
pretty interesting. Really enjoyed hearing sundance's thoughts. Is it me, or it is hard to listen to Mike Morhaime. It seems that everyone else has a real grasp on their knowledge about esports and how their companies relate to it except for him.

I'm with you. He looked uncomfortable, and his responses were generic.


its because their year long WCS thing from 2012 that was the most they've ever committed to eSports was a financial blood bath.
and Mike had a hard time lying about that. so he said nothing.

As I've already stated look for SC2 to have less big time events and over all less prize money in 2013 than in 2012.
And again , that isn't something to brag about.
All the other guys had these giant "growth numbers" to talk about that did not include Starcraft.

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TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
March 09 2013 18:30 GMT
#39
I actually really enjoyed this, i thought slasher did a really good job moderating and i was really happy to hear everyone speak. I feel really fortunate to have someone like sundance on the forefront for this community, he really knows his shit and says it with good confidence and presentation. The guy on the far right was EXTREMELY interesting to watch, i didn't think anyone on this earth would have the knowledge of building a sport from the ground up as much as he did...
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
March 09 2013 18:31 GMT
#40
Sundance just gets it. its why he was so good at the panel =p

Great information on eSports, and it's good to hear people from the traditional sports want to get involved with eSports as well (houston rockets hwaiting~!)
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