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Acronysis
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Wuster
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Wuster
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On March 08 2013 13:10 WolfintheSheep wrote: So basically, if every a team doesn't keep every single player then it's clearly about the team dying or SC2 dying. Wonderful logic. Did you read the OP or my post? The OP specifically mentions that Dignitas stated in an interview they weren't sure if they wanted to keep investing in SC2. They currently have 4 players on roster. If you remember, Tefel joining the team was 'big news' mainly because people were worried why they were just losing players; so Tefel broke the streak so to speak. My logic seems reasonable given the facts.* Also, no one said anything about SC2 or Dignitas dying, that's just you trying to find things to get upset about. Edit: Op has since been updated to remove the interview reference and add a response from Dignitas about expanding during Hots. But to say I'm skeptical that the interview was removed in the 10 minutes it took you to overreact to my post is an understatement to say the least. | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On March 09 2013 05:42 Mackus wrote: People keep mentioning his BM and I recall during TSL he demanded the Scottish flag next to his name rather than the Union Jack which is an insult to all English people, an effective way to alienate your fanbase. He's from Scotland, and wanting to have the Scottish flag next to his name is BM o_O? I see the English flag everywhere as well (e.g. World Cup Football I think?), so that's also BM then? How can you be insulted if someone just wants his own flag (yeah I know Scotland is part of UK). | ||
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gasmeter
United Kingdom249 Posts
On March 09 2013 05:42 Mackus wrote: People keep mentioning his BM and I recall during TSL he demanded the Scottish flag next to his name rather than the Union Jack which is an insult to all English people, an effective way to alienate your fanbase. This is one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard (by the way, I'm Scottish). | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On March 09 2013 07:05 gasmeter wrote: This is one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard (by the way, I'm Scottish). And ironically, he selected 'England' as his country while you selected 'United Kingdom' xD | ||
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gasmeter
United Kingdom249 Posts
On March 09 2013 07:08 dani` wrote: And ironically, he selected 'England' as his country while you selected 'United Kingdom' xD While I realise the irony, I just don't give a fuck. | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On March 09 2013 07:57 gasmeter wrote: While I realise the irony, I just don't give a fuck. Uhm it was obviously directed at him seeing how he demands a Scottish person to accept the flag of United Kingdom, while he himself just uses England whereas he then also should use United Kingdom, like you do. Them Scotts surely are aggressive lads aren't they  | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
 "Patch zerg"...jesus christ. Pull yourselves together.GL JRecco. Sorry to hear you weren't treated as well as you thought you should be. Wish you success in the future. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:21 IPA wrote: So many angry noobs in this thread. "Patch zerg"...jesus christ. Pull yourselves together.GL JRecco. Sorry to hear you weren't treated as well as you thought you should be. Wish you success in the future. I fucking love how it's somehow the players fault that Blizzard screwed the pooch on balance. OH NO, HE'S WINNING USING THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY, YOU'D BETTER STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR WE'LL BE MAD ON FORUMS!. There are times I want to take a big part of this community, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shove it in front of a mirror and yell "LOOK AT YOURSELVES, JUST LOOK!". | ||
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: I fucking love how it's somehow the players fault that Blizzard screwed the pooch on balance. OH NO, HE'S WINNING USING THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY, YOU'D BETTER STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR WE'LL BE MAD ON FORUMS!. There are times I want to take a big part of this community, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shove it in front of a mirror and yell "LOOK AT YOURSELVES, JUST LOOK!". STOP WINNING BY DOING SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE. It makes me upset ;_; | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: I fucking love how it's somehow the players fault that Blizzard screwed the pooch on balance. OH NO, HE'S WINNING USING THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY, YOU'D BETTER STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR WE'LL BE MAD ON FORUMS!. There are times I want to take a big part of this community, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shove it in front of a mirror and yell "LOOK AT YOURSELVES, JUST LOOK!". TB there are plenty of forums where we're not mad. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On March 09 2013 00:17 Plansix wrote: Of course, but that doesn’t mean everyone should be a jerk about it. I personally hate the term “patch-zerg” because its thrown around for almost every zerg in the scene at this point. Even BitbyBitPrime didn’t get this much hate in the era of GomTvT, and he was the scrub of scrubs. I don’t know much about JonnyR, but a lot of the stuff in this thread is totally unwarranted and just people jumping on the hate-wagon. He wasn't the scrub of scrubs. The issue at hand is that this guy came up after the patch, he was not a large international scene player before the patch. Now, mind you, I do agree some zergs get undue hate. The issue with JRE here is that he has not produced any meaningful results post TSL and has yet to show prowess after the infestor's nerf. That said, even more important to this subject is the fact that JRE has become the poster child for being a "Patch-zerg," due to him not being huge in England beforehand, unlike other zergs that happened to come to a head during that period of time. No one had heard of this guy it seemed, unlike people like VortiX or Snute who had both been tearing up their individual scenes, JRE was someone who seemed to depend on infestor play to win and, before the infestor power surge, had not shown the same brilliant play like in TSL. That said, yes, most of this hate is completely undue. | ||
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Anggroth
United Kingdom345 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:56 dani` wrote: He's from Scotland, and wanting to have the Scottish flag next to his name is BM o_O? I see the English flag everywhere as well (e.g. World Cup Football I think?), so that's also BM then? How can you be insulted if someone just wants his own flag (yeah I know Scotland is part of UK). While I don't disagree with your point, the World Cup isn't a good example as that is actually the English national team not a UK team. Each component of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) have their own national teams. | ||
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gasmeter
United Kingdom249 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:12 dani` wrote: Uhm it was obviously directed at him seeing how he demands a Scottish person to accept the flag of United Kingdom, while he himself just uses England whereas he then also should use United Kingdom, like you do. Them Scotts surely are aggressive lads aren't they At the end of the day, it's a flag. It's just quite misinformed and incorrect to say that not using the UK Flag "is an insult to all English people". I think some people need to think about what they're going to say before they say it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23759 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: I fucking love how it's somehow the players fault that Blizzard screwed the pooch on balance. OH NO, HE'S WINNING USING THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY, YOU'D BETTER STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR WE'LL BE MAD ON FORUMS!. There are times I want to take a big part of this community, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shove it in front of a mirror and yell "LOOK AT YOURSELVES, JUST LOOK!". I don't see it as a dig at the players, but oftentimes growing frustration with the gamestate and they get some of the residual heat for it. Do you actually read people actually demanding that players use sub-optimal strategies? I sure as hell don't for the most part, and I'm on here a lot. No, as a Protoss player I hated seeing immortal/sentry allins beating even ZvP specialists at least once nearly every series, or Puma crushing MC with 1/1/1s at an old IEM. I hated some of the monotonous games we had to watch for months on end. If a style is terrible to watch as spectators, if anything it's worthwhile voicing opinions about it in a non-abusive, reasoned manner. Would Heart of the Swarm be anything like it is in its current state if it wasn't for community feedback? Even if it's not a position you endorse, perhaps the enduring nature and resonance for many of the 'Lings of Liberty' thread is actually something that is worth paying attention to? But yeah, let's not listen to the viewership and the playerbase, that's how you sustain a scene. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 09 2013 10:17 Wombat_NI wrote: I don't see it as a dig at the players, but oftentimes growing frustration with the gamestate and they get some of the residual heat for it. Do you actually read people actually demanding that players use sub-optimal strategies? I sure as hell don't for the most part, and I'm on here a lot. No, as a Protoss player I hated seeing immortal/sentry allins beating even ZvP specialists at least once nearly every series, or Puma crushing MC with 1/1/1s at an old IEM. I hated some of the monotonous games we had to watch for months on end. If a style is terrible to watch as spectators, if anything it's worthwhile voicing opinions about it in a non-abusive, reasoned manner. Would Heart of the Swarm be anything like it is in its current state if it wasn't for community feedback? Even if it's not a position you endorse, perhaps the enduring nature and resonance for many of the 'Lings of Liberty' thread is actually something that is worth paying attention to? But yeah, let's not listen to the viewership and the playerbase, that's how you sustain a scene. There is a huge difference between complaining how a mu is being played and then calling the player doing what he should be doing a patch zerg. No one is saying bl/corr/infestor was fun to watch what people are saying is it's a joke to insult him for doing what is best... | ||
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Swords
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On March 09 2013 08:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: I fucking love how it's somehow the players fault that Blizzard screwed the pooch on balance. OH NO, HE'S WINNING USING THE OPTIMAL STRATEGY, YOU'D BETTER STOP THAT THIS INSTANT OR WE'LL BE MAD ON FORUMS!. There are times I want to take a big part of this community, grab it by the scruff of the neck, shove it in front of a mirror and yell "LOOK AT YOURSELVES, JUST LOOK!". This similarly bothers me, but it's the same in a lot of sports. There was a period of time in basketball where lots of people hated the Spurs because they were "boring to watch" and Tim Duncan didn't show "enough emotion". In American Football this year you had players and coaches complaining the Patriots offense used "unfair clock management tricks" even though these tricks were perfectly legal. Regardless of the sport/players, people will find some reason to whine, even if it isn't the team's fault for playing/acting in a way that gives them an advantage. Every team/player should do what it takes to win in the legal limits of the game. JR I think really bothered people because he was BM, used the most abusive strategies possible, and said strategies involved watching 50 minute games where 1 control group of 30 Broodlords and Infestors would follow 1 medivac around the map. Aside from the BM though, it's the game that allowed him to use this strategy that has the problem, not him. | ||
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