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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 01 2013 01:46 GMT
#481
sounds like a sad excuse for someone who can't handle the intensity of korea
The Notorious Winkles
Coopfreak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
March 01 2013 01:49 GMT
#482
This is sad to me. I would love to see players striving to be the best instead of striving to make money. Life hint – if you achieve the first the later almost always follows.
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
March 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#483
lol money, like predicted he failed miserably in korea. hes just a normal foreigner, overhyped, overrated
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 01 2013 01:51 GMT
#484
couldn't hack it in Korea. big surprise
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#485
This is GSL it is far more important than any foreign tournament.

Stephano clearly wants the money from IEM. He's an idiot for dropping out though, it's GSL.
Cornstarched
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada74 Posts
March 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#486
Good decision. Koreans need to xpand, and stop being so isolated. Having the korean govonrment run kespa just reeks of fracism and the decisons that come out of it show exsacly that. The rest of the world dosnt need them to have a succsesfull career, and gom tv and gsl are not the hardest and best tournaments. Good Luck Frenchi!
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
March 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#487
On March 01 2013 10:51 crazyweasel wrote:
lol money, like predicted he failed miserably in korea. hes just a normal foreigner, overhyped, overrated


On March 01 2013 10:51 how2TL wrote:
couldn't hack it in Korea. big surprise

Right, going 3-4 in a group consisting of DRG, innovation, and hack is 'failing miserably'

you guys are fucking retards

User was warned for this post
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 02:22:14
March 01 2013 02:20 GMT
#488
On March 01 2013 11:05 Cornstarched wrote:
Good decision. Koreans need to xpand, and stop being so isolated. Having the korean govonrment run kespa just reeks of fracism and the decisons that come out of it show exsacly that. The rest of the world dosnt need them to have a succsesfull career, and gom tv and gsl are not the hardest and best tournaments. Good Luck Frenchi!


...be that as it may, sc2 scene wouldnt be what it is today if it wasnt for the korean government backed kespa. many people here take this for granted. the sc2 hype train was the most massive train ever built.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
March 01 2013 02:22 GMT
#489
On March 01 2013 10:51 crazyweasel wrote:
lol money, like predicted he failed miserably in korea. hes just a normal foreigner, overhyped, overrated

Did all foreigners win over 200k$ in sc2?
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
March 01 2013 02:28 GMT
#490
This is so lame. Almost every foreigner keeps doing this. Don't even accept going to the GSL in the first place if you are so worried about conflicting schedules.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 02:31:51
March 01 2013 02:29 GMT
#491
On March 01 2013 03:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
aw too bad. At least Yonghwa stands an even better chance now ^^



Yeah, but he's playing at IEM too, so he's going to have one hell of a week himself.



As for Stephano, he's always been about the money, so anyone could see this coming really. The IEM player pool is much weaker than GSL's, so its likely easy money for him. IEM is also on Hots and the up and downs aren't. Nothing really shocking here.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
March 01 2013 02:32 GMT
#492
ughhh stephano is the one I want to win so bad! >_<
FlashDave.999 aka Star
ioCross
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
March 01 2013 02:35 GMT
#493
To all you guys who are putting rain in the same category as stephano, Rain's team made him play in the MLG tourney instead of the GSL because of the conflicts that GOM/KESPA had, along with the contract that MLG and KESPA had.

SKT wanted to snub GSL, it was part of the long back n forth that they had at the beginning of sc2 transitioning.

Koreans, despite their fiegned good manners, are actually very petty and underhanded. (im from there)
If you read a lot of korean news, you'd find that the same big name companies that own your favorite starcraft teams do some pretty shady and corrupt things to keep your favorite nerds in the black.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they had purposely put (Z)Stephano and youngwha in that same f*cked up bracket on purpose to make them choose between the GSL and IEM, and to intentionally make them suffer if they chose both.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 02:40:22
March 01 2013 02:37 GMT
#494
don't understand why there needs to be so much hub-bub.

Foreigners are only given spots because it helps GOM's ratings. They don't care if they're screwing over some talented Code B player..that isn't going to change. If anything changes, it'll be in the vein of making sure there's more commitment from the foreigners they give seeds to.
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
March 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#495
On March 01 2013 03:38 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:28 amiGo_O wrote:
seriously fuck Stephano and Grubby, GSL gave them a huge opportunity and they just dont care ... not surprised about Stephano as he cares only about money, but Grubby disappointed me big time ...
GSL should learn a lesson ...

About Stephano: As expected he forfeit his code a game after he "only" went 3rd place at his code s group.

dude, he only won one match against hack who's bad TvZ. Seriously he did nothing special in code S, rather pleased haters.
weeties
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia8 Posts
March 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#496
Well you've got to say this about Naniwa, at least he stuck around in GSL and gave it a proper go. Two round of 8 finishes in Code S make him definitely in the top few foreigners of WoL. I'm Stephano's biggest fan, and I think he probably is perhaps the best naturally talented foreigner playing now. But I'm worried that without really sticking it out in GSL to show the world he really is as good as his reputation, that all those undefeatable ZvP roach pushes back in 2012 might be forgotten about in time. Let's hope that in HotS he can dedicate some time to give us the Code S result we all want for him. I still think he's the best chance players outside Korea have of taking the GSL crown.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#497
I think Stephano made the good decision.
He probably had all his trip to IEM already planned when Up and Down groups were released, so can't even blame him.
ॐ
weeties
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia8 Posts
March 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#498
I mean since when has IEM been worth missing GSL for?
Shawters
Profile Joined October 2012
France26 Posts
March 01 2013 02:53 GMT
#499
I expect that. Stephano who want money is back, i understand him.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#500
On March 01 2013 11:05 Cornstarched wrote:
Good decision. Koreans need to xpand, and stop being so isolated. Having the korean govonrment run kespa just reeks of fracism and the decisons that come out of it show exsacly that. The rest of the world dosnt need them to have a succsesfull career, and gom tv and gsl are not the hardest and best tournaments. Good Luck Frenchi!

Too bad you're wrong though, GSL is the hardest and the best tournament around no doubt. Stephano can win all the money he wants and if that's what he's after, that's fine, but the glory of being the best is reserved for the likes of MVP, NesTea, MC, Life, and so on.
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