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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#461
Smart move, why waste time in a tournament he has no realistic chance of winning when there is much easier money waiting in foreign events for him.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18119 Posts
March 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#462
Reminds me of Rain. Maybe the same fate will follow him.
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
March 01 2013 00:55 GMT
#463
That's....disappointing
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 01 2013 00:55 GMT
#464
Gotta get paid. Can't be slogging it out in tough tournaments when you could be smashing foreigners for easy coin. I can see why people are mad, but if people are surprised they need a reality check. This is just how SC2 works.
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Stitch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong134 Posts
March 01 2013 01:01 GMT
#465
Good choice for Stephano.
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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
March 01 2013 01:02 GMT
#466
IEM is easier than GSL so more chance of winning money. It is his main goal while he is playing SC2, this isn't a suprise. Also, GOM should just stop with these seed handouts for foreigners....let them qualify like everyone else if they really belong there. I get that they do it for viewership and everything, but it just looks bad and kinda makes them seem unprofessional when they are giving these foreigners a shot who don't really care when there are plenty of koreans who would die for a GSL seed.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
March 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#467
Extremely talented, would have love to see him win GSL.

Seems he was serious when he said SC2 is about money for medical school.
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
March 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#468
i've pretty much given up on foreigners ever doing well enough to even be contenders in the korean tourneys
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 01:15:56
March 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#469
On March 01 2013 09:42 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


It's the fucking IEM world championship, huge event. Up and downs is a very minor thing. He's still in Code A next season. Calm the fuck down.

That one spot is highly pursued by tons of korean pro gamers, whereas it was given for free to Stephano, and he squanders it.

Like I said earlier, I feel if he was committed to IEM WC from earlier, I guess it's fine, but if I were GOM, I wouldn't give seeds like that without more commitment from the player, I'd probably state as such in a contract or sth.

Or charge a hefty fine for ditching the tournament, yeah I think I'd do that
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
March 01 2013 01:07 GMT
#470
O well id rather see him in foreign tournaments anyway.
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
March 01 2013 01:10 GMT
#471
Meh, don't feel like he should prioritize IEM over GSL.
But oh well, money calls I guess.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#472
On March 01 2013 10:06 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:42 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:12 ZeRoX-45 wrote:
This is disgrace...They invited him and gave code s spot, which many progamers from Korea have to earn and he disrispected them by dropping from UnD matches because of 5 times "easier" tournament. I would ban him forever from GSL for this.


It's the fucking IEM world championship, huge event. Up and downs is a very minor thing. He's still in Code A next season. Calm the fuck down.

That one spot is highly pursued by tons of korean pro gamers, whereas it was given for free to Stephano, and he squanders it.

Like I said earlier, I feel if he was committed to IEM WC from earlier, I guess it's fine, but if I were GOM, I wouldn't give seeds like that without more commitment from the player, I'd probably state as such in a contract or sth.


He is going for the easy money after all, I mean he only has to play MVP, Golden, Dream TLO and Grubby...thats like a walk over group. I mean only 3 Koreans, the former WC3 champ and TLO.....EZPZ.......wait
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
March 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#473
Extremely talented, would have love to see him win GSL

I don't think he is good enough to win GSL, it was proven. He probably won't go far in Up&Down Match, so coming to IEM is the best choice
@taefoxy
GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
March 01 2013 01:17 GMT
#474
Represent!
SuppySon
Gemini_sc2
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway69 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 01:27:39
March 01 2013 01:27 GMT
#475
What a shame from a viewer perspective,
It is understandable though, as Stephano has to consider his winning chances.
Are there no foreigners the next GSL to root for then?
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 01:29:29
March 01 2013 01:27 GMT
#476
On March 01 2013 07:57 Evangelist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 07:41 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Foreigners fucking up the most prestigious tournament in the world.

Standard.


I wouldn't agree. It's certainly the hardest but I wouldn't say it's the most prestigious. I'd give that honour to Dreamhack which continually puts on an amazing show with epic games and makes an effort to be truly worldwide.



Lol DH may have good competition, but the competition level there is a farce. It doesn't even come close to the competition of mlg/ipl let alone gsl. DH isn't high on my list of tourneys to watch because the competition level is always too poor at them.
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skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
March 01 2013 01:31 GMT
#477
Before EG everybody loves stephano, after they hate him. Comes with the fame of the name i suppose.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 01:35:08
March 01 2013 01:33 GMT
#478
He's gonna lose ground if he fails at IEM. When playing in EG, money shouldn't be the motivation, since you get a monthly salary you can live from. EG sent one promising (Stephano) and one not-so-promising (HuK) contester to GSL. Obviously a failure. Stephano is just pulling consequences, no surprise to me - maybe he's on GSL level if he plays on top of his game, but that's not the point of GSL. The point of GSL is doing long-term high-level play. Stephano does not provide that anymore since his great strategies are being countered by a random soul train coming up.

Edit: Oh yeah, and EG curse :D
Edit #2: Long story short: foreigner still not equaling coreans. As long as the e-sports scene is not that big, it won't happen. So, foreigners should stick to foreigner tournaments and try to beat koreans there. One makes a point through that, too.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
March 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#479
I dont blame him. GSL doesnt offer enough money to stick around. Stephano is better off to win 10 times as much for a 100th the effort in a single weekend compared to the enduring task of trying to win Code A or S in GSL.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
L0L
Profile Joined August 2012
United States176 Posts
March 01 2013 01:37 GMT
#480
IEM>GSL?
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