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MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
March 01 2013 02:59 GMT
#501
he wouldnt have made it anyway
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
March 01 2013 03:04 GMT
#502
On March 01 2013 11:51 weeties wrote:
I mean since when has IEM been worth missing GSL for?


It's the IEM World Championship, not just one the minor events they run throughout the year. It's also the first major HotS tournament.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
berfenrir
Profile Joined November 2012
30 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 03:08:55
March 01 2013 03:08 GMT
#503
On March 01 2013 11:35 ioCross wrote:
To all you guys who are putting rain in the same category as stephano, Rain's team made him play in the MLG tourney instead of the GSL because of the conflicts that GOM/KESPA had, along with the contract that MLG and KESPA had.

SKT wanted to snub GSL, it was part of the long back n forth that they had at the beginning of sc2 transitioning.

Koreans, despite their fiegned good manners, are actually very petty and underhanded. (im from there)
If you read a lot of korean news, you'd find that the same big name companies that own your favorite starcraft teams do some pretty shady and corrupt things to keep your favorite nerds in the black.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they had purposely put (Z)Stephano and youngwha in that same f*cked up bracket on purpose to make them choose between the GSL and IEM, and to intentionally make them suffer if they chose both.


I feel sad for Rain, people dislike him for that choice made by kespa
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
March 01 2013 03:12 GMT
#504
He has a better chance at IEM than he has of winning a GSL so this decision makes sense.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
March 01 2013 03:15 GMT
#505
i don't think i can be a stephano fan anymore
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 01 2013 03:17 GMT
#506
On March 01 2013 11:58 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:05 Cornstarched wrote:
Good decision. Koreans need to xpand, and stop being so isolated. Having the korean govonrment run kespa just reeks of fracism and the decisons that come out of it show exsacly that. The rest of the world dosnt need them to have a succsesfull career, and gom tv and gsl are not the hardest and best tournaments. Good Luck Frenchi!

Too bad you're wrong though, GSL is the hardest and the best tournament around no doubt. Stephano can win all the money he wants and if that's what he's after, that's fine, but the glory of being the best is reserved for the likes of MVP, NesTea, MC, Life, and so on.


That's super kewl and all, but Stephano doesn't give a shit about that. Besides by giving up his spot, he's now down in Code A or is he kicked out entirely?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 01 2013 03:19 GMT
#507
Lol at the Korean elitist army coming out in force.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 03:20:53
March 01 2013 03:20 GMT
#508
Kinda funny how Europeans don't stick around in Korea very long. Looks like another foreigner bites the dust in the GSL Code S. I wish Stephano luck at IEM.
There's no S in KT. :P
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 01 2013 03:36 GMT
#509
every great player, athletes or gamers, has a great mindset that makes them champ. That is thriving for the best, playing with the best and winning the best money.

Your so-called foreigner hero doesnt have that. Hes just another kid who wins some money by playing video game.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
March 01 2013 03:39 GMT
#510
What would be hilarious is if Yonghwa won IEM and also got out of his u/d group. That would be straight up awesome.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
March 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#511
People are acting like he's skipping a Code S match for this. It's up and downs. There's a high chance that he'd end up in Code A anyway which is what happens now. He is still in the GSL, in Code A. Everyone calm the fuck down.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
March 01 2013 03:43 GMT
#512
On March 01 2013 12:41 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
People are acting like he's skipping a Code S match for this. It's up and downs. There's a high chance that he'd end up in Code A anyway which is what happens now. He is still in the GSL, in Code A. Everyone calm the fuck down.


Dayum. Laying down the hard reasoning. But yeah nice call, that puts it into perspective. Good decision I 'spose
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
March 01 2013 03:44 GMT
#513
He knows that he's not going to be doing this shit when he's 30 so he is banking cash. People are raged about it because it's a sort of nod to the fact that this game has a clock on it whereas some nerds seem to think of it as a long term career option (which it isn't). This is a pretty rational move regardless of what we might wish for as viewers.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
March 01 2013 03:46 GMT
#514
Such a shame to see players looking for easy money instead of compete in the most prestigious sc2 tournaments with the best players int he world. But i guess he just doesnt belong to them.
IMMoonLight
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)332 Posts
March 01 2013 03:47 GMT
#515
It is all about money~~No Eu hero here...
So this is why I like Moon forever even he is code B player..Just flight for games
Better than Stephano
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
March 01 2013 03:49 GMT
#516
Should someone from EG management or coaching have contacted Mr. Chae and associates to work on this? I don't blame Stephano, but someone should ask EG some questions. SLASHER, where are you???
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
March 01 2013 03:53 GMT
#517
On March 01 2013 12:49 tritonice wrote:
Should someone from EG management or coaching have contacted Mr. Chae and associates to work on this? I don't blame Stephano, but someone should ask EG some questions. SLASHER, where are you???


Are you high right now? In your mind is there some EG conspiracy masterminded by Alex Garfield and Incontrol to keep Stephano out of GSL? There is a conflict and he chose the tournament that is more appealing to him personally (and likely also to EG and their sponsors!), this isn't complicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
March 01 2013 03:56 GMT
#518
This is extremely BM. No player that wants to be the best should just throw away a potential Code S spot.
Three hundred lives of men I have walked this world, and now I have no time.
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
March 01 2013 03:58 GMT
#519
I love how people are worked up over this. He made his name in the western scene. He's obviously going to participate in a massive tournament that he loves as opposed to a couple games of Up & Down matches. What the fuck do you think is more appealing? A chance at trying to get Code S and staying in Code A anyways if he fails, or going to IEM where he's almost guaranteed some good money and to have a lot more fun than he would have in the Up & Down matches?

Use your brains.
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Fr0ZeN_Grenier
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5 Posts
March 01 2013 04:04 GMT
#520
Can't believe everyone is bitching against Stephano again. He's just not the godly foreigner that will "save" the foreigner pride and such, he's just Stephano. Let him be what the F*** he want to be and stop always complaining about his decisions. That's the kind of attitude that will make him leave Sc2, or even other programmer.
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