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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
February 27 2013 09:26 GMT
#641
Blizzard sure makes good trailers.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 27 2013 09:37 GMT
#642
I actually quite liked that trailer - Blizzard had gotten very good at making them.
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Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
February 27 2013 09:40 GMT
#643
Why is writing always so bad? It's filled with cliché lines...
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
February 27 2013 11:22 GMT
#644
On February 27 2013 18:21 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 18:17 zoLo wrote:
On February 27 2013 17:01 Angel_ wrote:
On February 27 2013 16:07 Brutaxilos wrote:
On February 27 2013 15:33 Angel_ wrote:
kerrigan is going to kill zeratul. I predict.


Also, very excited for the story if it doesn't turn into a typical blizzard "lets all align and fight the hybrids" shitfest.

Also also, i hope the actual gameplay of the campaign isnt as terrible as WoL (let's make a mission to showcase each unit - blarg)

So excited.

Isn't Zeratul supposed to be the hero of LotV? How will that work then.


I guess that would depend on how much they develop Artanis' character. Or a yet unseen newer, younger protoss.


Nah. I think Artanis is set to be a big character later. The way Blizzard built him from a young Praetor to a hierach gives him a reason to live. Since Blizzard is quite cheesy to a degree lately, I see Artanis being the one to unite (with help of Zeratul and maybe Selendis) all the Protoss together to fight the threat.


I wasn't suggesting that Artanis would die.

I'm saying Artanis could easily become the central hero for LoTV

LoTV is quite interesting as so far HoTS seems to be ending with The Swarm "being released" is some way. Protoss part being almost untouched, i'm more hyped for it than on HoTS itself. In Wing in the Protoss mini campaign there was a mission where all the Protoss united against the threat of the Swarm and hybrids. It was based on the propherecy so i guess resoults of action taken in HoTS the prophercy mission will go in a completly different way.
Btw what happened to the zerg's main goal - assimilate Protoss to reach perfection? So far it was the Dominion that tried to bound those two races w/o any reason. Kerrigan seems to have completly abonded that idea focusing on Mengsk. In trailer, though, it seems that Kerrigan's psi powers are greatly increased as if she assimilated some Protoss or mayby an artefact.
Anyway long way till the Void...
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 27 2013 12:10 GMT
#645
Trailer was pretty much the same as the teaser. Actually, I enjoyed the teaser more xD
Hopefully the launch party is good
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
February 27 2013 12:34 GMT
#646
Not that exciting...

Where is the queen bitch of the universe?
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McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#647
On February 27 2013 16:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 15:04 eviltomahawk wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:16 Qikz wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:40 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:30 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:27 discator wrote:
IM FUCKIN HYPED FOR HOTS DUDE CANT FUCKIN WAIT

PSI BLADE KERRIGAN FUCK YEAH http://i.imgur.com/ecMbUyb.png

So, is it just me, or does it almost seem like Psi-blade Kerrigan is fighting Queen of Blades Kerrigan


At first I thought that was Zeratul but going frame-by-frame, the hands of her opponent do look like Queen of Blades Kerrigan.. and maybe a side boob shot. Hmmmmm??


It could be a case of when the overmind "rebuilt" Kerrigan, he realised that at some point in the future she might try and break away to become human again (as he would have known of the artifact himself). So retroactively he created many versions of Kerrigan/the queen of blades, so if one were to fall/turn human another would stand in it's place.

My theory is that it's a "dream" sequence.

We see a few scenes where Kerrigan is in an area with a Xel'Naga aesthetic with her breaking (free?) a crystal while Raynor stands in the back. Her eyes then change, possibly indicating that she goes feral. She then runs towards Raynor.. Although it isn't specified who she is attacking, I think it can be implied that it's Raynor even though we only get a slight glimpse at the victim. And of course, we see human Kerrigan fighting infested Kerrigan.

So I think this is a kind of internal dream sequence where the feral infested Kerrigan breaks free from her Xel'Naga prison that the Xel'Naga artifact from WoL had trapped her (spirit?) in. And then maybe Raynor's presence in this dream represents Kerrigan's love for Raynor or some stupid shit like that. So evil Kerrigan starts attacking Raynor, who is probably a dream Raynor since I don't expect the real Raynor to be heavily injured or killed yet. And then the fully human Kerrigan spirit comes out to defend dream Raynor and defeat the evil Kerrigan spirit.

The result is that the good Kerrigan defeats the evil Kerrigan that has been lying latent inside of her mind the entire time. This dream sequence is probably happening while Kerrigan is trying to get re-infested, possibly to regain as much power as she can so that she can best lead the Zerg in the upcoming fight against the Hybrids. Thus, the re-infested Kerrigan becomes a protagonist in the plot instead of becoming the queen bitch of the galaxy again.

And then everyone lived happily ever after.

The end.


This would totally suck. If this is anywhere near the truth, Chris Metzen would officially be an idiot. Brood War had like amazing complicated mature drama, with a lot of tragedy, where anyone was disposable. Sc2 - some cheesy good endings with bullshit 'heroes' and overall dumbed down characters.


After what they did with the D3 story and the mushy goop that was WoL, I'm kind of worried. BW had the best storyline of any RTS, it was sort of like Game of Thrones in space. This feels eerily reminiscent of the first Star Wars movies vs the new ones.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 12:39:15
February 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#648
Trailer is awesome!
But two notes:
1. Not an epic music for the Zerg theme
2. Too many spoilers
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 14:10:42
February 27 2013 14:07 GMT
#649
On February 27 2013 21:36 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 16:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On February 27 2013 15:04 eviltomahawk wrote:
On February 27 2013 11:16 Qikz wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:40 Chicken Chaser wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:30 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:27 discator wrote:
IM FUCKIN HYPED FOR HOTS DUDE CANT FUCKIN WAIT

PSI BLADE KERRIGAN FUCK YEAH http://i.imgur.com/ecMbUyb.png

So, is it just me, or does it almost seem like Psi-blade Kerrigan is fighting Queen of Blades Kerrigan


At first I thought that was Zeratul but going frame-by-frame, the hands of her opponent do look like Queen of Blades Kerrigan.. and maybe a side boob shot. Hmmmmm??


It could be a case of when the overmind "rebuilt" Kerrigan, he realised that at some point in the future she might try and break away to become human again (as he would have known of the artifact himself). So retroactively he created many versions of Kerrigan/the queen of blades, so if one were to fall/turn human another would stand in it's place.

My theory is that it's a "dream" sequence.

We see a few scenes where Kerrigan is in an area with a Xel'Naga aesthetic with her breaking (free?) a crystal while Raynor stands in the back. Her eyes then change, possibly indicating that she goes feral. She then runs towards Raynor.. Although it isn't specified who she is attacking, I think it can be implied that it's Raynor even though we only get a slight glimpse at the victim. And of course, we see human Kerrigan fighting infested Kerrigan.

So I think this is a kind of internal dream sequence where the feral infested Kerrigan breaks free from her Xel'Naga prison that the Xel'Naga artifact from WoL had trapped her (spirit?) in. And then maybe Raynor's presence in this dream represents Kerrigan's love for Raynor or some stupid shit like that. So evil Kerrigan starts attacking Raynor, who is probably a dream Raynor since I don't expect the real Raynor to be heavily injured or killed yet. And then the fully human Kerrigan spirit comes out to defend dream Raynor and defeat the evil Kerrigan spirit.

The result is that the good Kerrigan defeats the evil Kerrigan that has been lying latent inside of her mind the entire time. This dream sequence is probably happening while Kerrigan is trying to get re-infested, possibly to regain as much power as she can so that she can best lead the Zerg in the upcoming fight against the Hybrids. Thus, the re-infested Kerrigan becomes a protagonist in the plot instead of becoming the queen bitch of the galaxy again.

And then everyone lived happily ever after.

The end.


This would totally suck. If this is anywhere near the truth, Chris Metzen would officially be an idiot. Brood War had like amazing complicated mature drama, with a lot of tragedy, where anyone was disposable. Sc2 - some cheesy good endings with bullshit 'heroes' and overall dumbed down characters.


After what they did with the D3 story and the mushy goop that was WoL, I'm kind of worried. BW had the best storyline of any RTS, it was sort of like Game of Thrones in space. This feels eerily reminiscent of the first Star Wars movies vs the new ones.


What's funny is that back then they had few tools like 'talking heads' and no in-game interractivity, yet they managed to create some sad, dark and powerful story. Now they have amazing cinematic department, in-game interractions between missions, books written just for SC2, and much much more, yet they still cant make as deep characters, which would have no 'right' choice anytime during the campaign.

I liked the trailer a lot actually, i just hope it keeps that sort of tone in the game.
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 14:10:50
February 27 2013 14:10 GMT
#650
On February 27 2013 21:36 Jenia6109 wrote:
Trailer is awesome!
But two notes:
1. Not an epic music for the Zerg theme
2. Too many spoilers


I don't see what spoilers are in the Trailer? That Kerrigan wants Revenge and turns somewhat on Raynor was clear, because a Zerg-Story wouldn't make much sense if Kerrigan was 100% human again.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
February 27 2013 14:21 GMT
#651
On February 27 2013 23:10 Hadley88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:36 Jenia6109 wrote:
Trailer is awesome!
But two notes:
1. Not an epic music for the Zerg theme
2. Too many spoilers


I don't see what spoilers are in the Trailer? That Kerrigan wants Revenge and turns somewhat on Raynor was clear, because a Zerg-Story wouldn't make much sense if Kerrigan was 100% human again.

No spoilers? Ok, here there are some:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Kerrigan fighting Raynor
2. Kerrigan's clone with psy-blades
3. Kerrigan's reincarnation on Zerus within a cocoon
4. Kerrigan destructs a Protoss relic. Most probably it's Zel Naga artefact from WoL
5. Kerrigan fights with Zeratul
6. Leaked ending is an actual ending


Yes, it doesn't explains everything but they are spoilers anyway.

Something that wasn't spoiled in trailer and i'm interested in:
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Hybrids
2. Duran
3. Dark Voice
4. Stukov
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Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
February 27 2013 14:22 GMT
#652
On February 27 2013 05:23 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 05:20 Hadley88 wrote:
On February 27 2013 05:20 vinsang1000 wrote:
So basically, Hots is Alien 4 story ?


Alien ended after Alien² _!_

You mean Aliens? There was also Alien 3 after that.


German title was Alien² ...the franchises ENDED after part 2! /End there were never part3/4 and 5 and that Prometheus-thing also never happened!
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
February 27 2013 14:42 GMT
#653
On February 27 2013 23:22 Hadley88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 05:23 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 27 2013 05:20 Hadley88 wrote:
On February 27 2013 05:20 vinsang1000 wrote:
So basically, Hots is Alien 4 story ?


Alien ended after Alien² _!_

You mean Aliens? There was also Alien 3 after that.


German title was Alien² ...the franchises ENDED after part 2! /End there were never part3/4 and 5 and that Prometheus-thing also never happened!

ty! I completely agree
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voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
February 27 2013 14:49 GMT
#654
Question: didn't Blizzard say something about triggered cinematics in the missions themself, not only between them?
they stated that they moved all the mission discussion to the missions itself too, but i'm not sure about the cinematics. that would explain some things, if those cinematics will happen in the middle of some missions.
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
February 27 2013 14:54 GMT
#655
i dont like that the quotes from all the trailers are the same... should bring some more variety in it... but the visuals are stunning! as always
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
February 27 2013 14:56 GMT
#656
hell yeah, how I missed crazymoving's game
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 27 2013 15:10 GMT
#657
I liked the trailer!... Very nicely done.

About the storyline. While I understand and agree that it is very cliche, I don't understand why this is such an outrage, since this has been the case with Blizzard for the longest time. While original SC's campaign had a good storyline, it was nothing earthshattering, it was the degree of commitment to the characters what actually made it great, not the storyline per se. For example, the death of Tassadar was a freaking huge moment for me, because Tassadar was such a fucking badass, but the story structure wasn't too different from what we see today, aside the addition of really cheesy lines and themes.

That said, the story is probably going to be pretty epic, IF and only if they can get us to commit to the characters as much as we did to the previous cast. Zeratul is probably the biggest thing here, since out of the new characters we haven't met too many interesting people. I think the death of Matt Horner would be pretty touching.

As far as the campaign goes, I feel the mission structure in WoL was really, really, REALLY good. It was a huge step over the classic "build a huge base -> Stomp everything" structure in all RTS campaigns so far, maybe they could be less tailored for a given unit's effectiveness, because that means some units are mostly useless apart from their star missions.

I have high hopes for HotS and LotV, I think for all the shit Blizzard takes for their work on D3, and their money grabbing, they've done a good job with SC2, and I hope it continues to be that way.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
February 27 2013 15:22 GMT
#658
I definitely don't like the direction the story seems to be going. I like evil Kerrigan much better than "because-I-had-to-Kerrigan". I was looking forward to decimating Terrans and Protoss just... because I'm a Zerg and that's what I do. But anyway, the writing was so bad in WoL that I really don't expect anything for the solo.
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
February 27 2013 17:38 GMT
#659
I have only one problem with that trailer. WoL launch trailer was awesome and... spoiled every epic moment in WoL cinematics. And I don't mean story-wise, I mean they hinted at 90% of bad-ass moments there, and after watching that trailer a million times (I mean, how could you not watch it a million times?) you didn't get any new OMGWTF moments, only a sense of familiarity. Heck, infiltratioin Valerian ship looked more bad ass in trailer than in actual game.

Seems like it will be the same with that trailer
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5479 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-27 18:13:33
February 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#660
On February 27 2013 18:26 Daswollvieh wrote:
Blizzard sure makes good trailers.

What are you talking about?

It was 2 minutes of meh and obvious bad story telling.

If you want an example of a good trailer it would be the Game of Thrones trailer

+ Show Spoiler +


It also helps that I know that Game of Thrones won't under deliver where HoTs will.
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