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IEM Season 7 World Championship will be HotS

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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 22:28:15
February 15 2013 15:10 GMT
#1
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season7/hanover/news/214581/

The Intel Extreme Masters World Championship will feature the first ever global StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm tournament.

On March 5-9 the world's best StarCraft II players will meet at CeBIT in Hanover, Germany to compete in the $100,000 final to the Intel Extreme Masters season, one week before the official release of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm.

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The 24 participants have qualified for the event through our stops all over the globe within the past months. Fans all over the world will be able to enjoy their heroes bring new strategies to the battlefield, as well as a broadcast with the new spectator UI. Most importantly, the integrity of the tournament will be protected by the resume from replay function.

Over its history, the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship at CeBIT has always been a celebration of Blizzard's major esports titles, with Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, World of Warcraft and StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty tournaments. Thanks to Blizzard, CeBIT on March 5-9 will be the only place in the world where StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm will be played.

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The event will take place three days before the European release of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, that will go along with a launch party taking place in Versailles, France on the evening of March 11, as well as other cities across the globe.

These launch parties will allow visitors to meet famous players, commentators and the developers of the game and Blizzard Europe has already made arrangements to invite the Intel Extreme Masters World Champion to the launch party in Versailles, France.

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Posts by Carmac from IEM

On February 16 2013 01:10 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.



They didn't tell the players before.


We indicated the possibility to players, however the final confirmation that this is feasible was received recently. It is a very non standard situation for Blizzard since they had never done anything like it before with an outside partner. Plus pulling this off on Blizzard's side is, from what I know, technically and procedurally a big task (and I'm thankful they made it happen).


On February 16 2013 01:22 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 01:13 StarVe wrote:
On February 16 2013 01:10 Carmac wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.


We indicated the possibility to players, however the final confirmation that this is feasible was received recently. It is a very non standard situation for Blizzard since they had never done anything like it before with an outside partner. Plus pulling this off on Blizzard's side is, from what I know, technically and procedurally a big task (and I'm thankful they made it happen).

So it's also quite an experimental thing and you can't really be sure if Blizzard can pull this off smoothly on their side? And you don't know if all the players can practice it after the beta shuts down. Which could have players go the week prior to the tournament without practicing the game that is played there, when some players would need to start practicing hardcore now because they haven't touched HotS at all.


It is Blizzard we're talking about when it comes to pulling this off smoothly. We'll be playing on a European HotS server as well.


On February 16 2013 02:33 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 02:20 Rescawen wrote:
On February 16 2013 01:22 Carmac wrote:
On February 16 2013 01:13 StarVe wrote:
On February 16 2013 01:10 Carmac wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.


We indicated the possibility to players, however the final confirmation that this is feasible was received recently. It is a very non standard situation for Blizzard since they had never done anything like it before with an outside partner. Plus pulling this off on Blizzard's side is, from what I know, technically and procedurally a big task (and I'm thankful they made it happen).

So it's also quite an experimental thing and you can't really be sure if Blizzard can pull this off smoothly on their side? And you don't know if all the players can practice it after the beta shuts down. Which could have players go the week prior to the tournament without practicing the game that is played there, when some players would need to start practicing hardcore now because they haven't touched HotS at all.


It is Blizzard we're talking about when it comes to pulling this off smoothly. We'll be playing on a European HotS server as well.


This sucks so bad for the players who had practiced wol for all this time. I have bought 2 iem premium tickets and a benq monitor to support you guys, but this is just a dick move. Will not watch it.


I appreciate the support and I hope you'll watch us in the future. This wasn't a simple decision, be sure of that.



Post by LiquidNazgul

On February 16 2013 02:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Whether you agree or disagree with the decision I hope you take into account that people always get hurt in this situation. It is unavoidable for people not to get hurt. So if you are saying "this hurts the people who were practicing WoL" that is not a good enough motivation by itself. If this had been a WoL tournament it hurts every player in this tournament by being behind in skill for HotS when all the major tournaments start there. This is also what will happen to the players qualified to IPL.

There is a big reason to keep it WoL; having the same game your players qualified for obviously makes a lot of sense from a competitive perspective. However, that is not the end all be all of reasons. This can be shown by simply looking at a situation where HotS comes out after 3 months into an IEM year. Would you want them to have the finals 9 months later in WoL? I'm sure every person posting in this thread would consider that the wrong move too. This indicates that for all of you out there it is possible to have reasons that outweigh the competitive consistency reasoning.

I don't particularly care, and I told Carmac that we would respect his decision either way. I can see the arguments on both sides here and don't really see it as a right or wrong situation. Financially IEM thinks they need this and that WoL may not satisfy their sponsors with the numbers it will draw. Competitively you give up consistency from qualifiers to finals, which is a big deal to give up as a legitimate sport. On the other hand you also gain the players not starting behind in the HotS scene because of making them commit to an old game.

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Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
February 15 2013 15:13 GMT
#2
IEM just uppercutted MLG. I'm really excited, gogo SNUTE!
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
February 15 2013 15:15 GMT
#3
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
February 15 2013 15:15 GMT
#4
Wut, shit just got real...
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
February 15 2013 15:18 GMT
#5
On February 16 2013 00:15 saksy2 wrote:
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now


They probably told the players before. Would be a really bad not to. Also im curious how the players will prepare considering that the beta is down arround that time.
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Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
February 15 2013 15:23 GMT
#6
On February 16 2013 00:18 007Kain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:15 saksy2 wrote:
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now


They probably told the players before. Would be a really bad not to. Also im curious how the players will prepare considering that the beta is down arround that time.


Blizzard will keep up private servers for tournaments and stuff, though I'm confused how players would be able to prepare. It's kind of odd.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 15 2013 15:25 GMT
#7
oh boy...this could change a lot. Going to probably be a fair amount of foreigner upsets since the vast majority have been getting a jump on HotS.

I still think MVP is taking it all in the end though :p
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 15 2013 15:26 GMT
#8
On February 16 2013 00:18 007Kain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:15 saksy2 wrote:
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now


They probably told the players before. Would be a really bad not to. Also im curious how the players will prepare considering that the beta is down arround that time.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8649261/The_Beta_Test_is_coming_to_an_End-2_8_2013

It is important to note that we will continue to operate a private beta test until Heart of the Swarm goes live on March 12. We will be working with our eSports partners to ensure that they are able to feature the new expansion in professional StarCraft II matches after March 1.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 15 2013 15:55 GMT
#9
No premiere for MLG, ouch
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saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
February 15 2013 15:56 GMT
#10
On February 16 2013 00:18 007Kain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:15 saksy2 wrote:
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now


They probably told the players before. Would be a really bad not to. Also im curious how the players will prepare considering that the beta is down arround that time.

At least Snute and Kas has played countless hours of WoL lately in preparation for a WoL-tournament
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 15:58:24
February 15 2013 15:57 GMT
#11
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
February 15 2013 16:04 GMT
#12
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.


Poor Vortix hah. I wonder how many players have been only sticking to practicing WoL for this tourney.

I mean it's cool that it'll be HotS, I just hope the players can prepare properly so we don't see [as much] silly/wonky games.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 15 2013 16:06 GMT
#13
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.

That's weird:


Hm, is Carmac lying or what?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 16:11:35
February 15 2013 16:07 GMT
#14
That's some exclusive shit right there :D

As the best broodlord pusher in the game, I hope VortiX will manage to make them work in HotS as well. Gotta transfer those broodlord micro skills, like MKP did for his marauder pick-up micro, revamped into hellbat pick-up micro.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
February 15 2013 16:09 GMT
#15
On February 16 2013 00:18 007Kain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:15 saksy2 wrote:
I bet the pros that had been practicing their arse off thinking it was WoL feel bad now


They probably told the players before. Would be a really bad not to. Also im curious how the players will prepare considering that the beta is down arround that time.


Reading the tweets from some of them not too long ago, they did not know.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 15 2013 16:09 GMT
#16
On February 16 2013 01:06 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.

That's weird:
https://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/302427149242101762

Hm, is Carmac lying or what?

I don't know, but even if a lot of them were "fine" with it, whatever he defines as fine, I still don't think it's good. Lemme copypaste my reddit post:

This seems like a terrible, terrible idea to me, and I strongly dislike the move.

As Carmac said, they are not even sure if players can practice and some haven't even touched HotS because IEM didn't announce shit so far, and nothing pointed towards the tournament being HotS after a whole season of WoL with the finals being before release.

Being the first in something isn't always worthwhile if it makes for a terrible experience.

After watching MLG showdowns for two weeks, I couldn't be less excited for a tournament with players who might have practiced even less HotS than players in the MLG event.

It could have been a great sendoff for WoL with players who are still very much the best in that (balanced) game. Now it's a random assembly of players who can be everything from top players in HotS to terrible players in HotS which makes for a very lopsided tournament, coupled with an imbalanced game it looks like the formula to disappointment.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
February 15 2013 16:10 GMT
#17
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.


We indicated the possibility to players, however the final confirmation that this is feasible was received recently. It is a very non standard situation for Blizzard since they had never done anything like it before with an outside partner. Plus pulling this off on Blizzard's side is, from what I know, technically and procedurally a big task (and I'm thankful they made it happen).
www.intelextrememasters.com
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 16:17:29
February 15 2013 16:13 GMT
#18
On February 16 2013 01:10 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:57 StarVe wrote:
How awful, what the fuck is that move?

Kas/Snute are not the only ones.

https://twitter.com/Karont3_VortiX/status/301297094549966849

They didn't tell the players before.


We indicated the possibility to players, however the final confirmation that this is feasible was received recently. It is a very non standard situation for Blizzard since they had never done anything like it before with an outside partner. Plus pulling this off on Blizzard's side is, from what I know, technically and procedurally a big task (and I'm thankful they made it happen).

So it's also quite an experimental thing and you can't really be sure if Blizzard can pull this off smoothly on their side? And you don't know if all the players can practice it after the beta shuts down. Which could have players go the week prior to the tournament without practicing the game that is played there, when some players would need to start practicing hardcore now because they haven't touched HotS at all.
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
February 15 2013 16:14 GMT
#19
i didnt get it all after a whole season of wol they change for the final event. I think they hope to get more viewers with hots but honestly for me it is not fun watching hots right now
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12632 Posts
February 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#20
can't wait! just wish the tournament to go smoothly
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