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On February 05 2013 03:15 ZenithM wrote:
Logitech mouses are the best, sorry Razer :/
Are we talking ergonomics? Or sensors?
Don't get me wrong, I loved my MX 518, and currently my G400 which is a good successor to the mx510/518 optical mice. It's sensor was top notch, and i liked the ergonomics/feel to it with my palm grip. But when I had my Deathadder 3G that lasted for under a year, I found it's sensor to be probably the best I had ever used out of various mice over many years (at least in my experience in FPS games). Only reason why I won't touch Razer gear unless I got it for free was my DA died pretty fast in under a year's worth of time - or more specifically one of the thumb buttons completely collapsed inwards including the spring/mechanism (shoddy build quality).
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On February 05 2013 01:42 Noocta wrote:
I really wonder what RAZER really does for all these teams besides giving some hardware.
Razer helps to promote our teams through our social media network and we organize events & cross-promotions, such as show-matches with other Team Razer members, AMA's moderated by our Razer Academy personalities, or annual events such as Razer's Team of the Year, which results in a team branded Razer product that will produce income for an organization.
If one of our member organizations disbands or downsizes then we'll do what we can to connect those now free agents with our other Team Razer members in the hopes of finding them a suitable replacement team.
In general, our member organizations know they can come to us with anything and we'll take an honest look at it. Sometimes that means financial assistance to make it to an event, products to stock a team's web store, or just helping them to promote their own content via our social media network.
We offer the same assistance to our Team Razer personalities and content creators as well, for example, Athene, ChanmanV, and the Cyber Sports Network.
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On February 05 2013 03:40 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 03:29 mythandier wrote:
Congrats to EG & Razer. ^_^
Although...I still use the OEM mouse + keyboard that came with my desktop. No issues staying in masters with these generic devices.
High end gear always seemed so extraneous to me. Kind of like Reebok Pumps making you jump higher. No, they don't make you magically play better. But they just feel very nice. Can't speak for keyboard, as I never bothered to get anything other than dirt cheap there - but moving from el generic mouse to a Mionix Naos 3200 was just very, very nice. It's hard to describe, but there's an ergonomics & smoothness that just isn't in the generic mice. Worth the $50, even though I play at 800 DPI (default DPI of most mice that come with pre-built computers, though some of those are 400dpi too).
Also, it should be said that the Razor mouse is far more durable than the thing I use at work. The same with the keyboard I have at home. If people are looking to upgrade to avoid having to buy a new, cheap mouse every few months, it is worth it.
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On February 05 2013 01:17 SoOJuuu wrote:
well im happy i never bought that sensei mouse
Even though Razers gear isnt tip top always
I enjoy that they support the community so much.
Why are you happy you didnt get an awesome mouse?
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On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote:
Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties.
it's not the same. different products will have different materials in some cases, and even if you're point was right, they are still build differently. if your point was correct then there wouldn't be that much need for engineers, since all they do is exactly that - ftrying to find the best solution for everyone. and obviously, the standards given are different for different companies, so you have products of varying quality in the end.
and to say that those keyboards get build in the same 1-2 factories is just ridiculous. one keyboard-brand will get it's components produced in up to a few dozen of factories. and not every factory will produce for everyone, since every company - again - has different needs and expectacions in what they want and where they want to build there parts.
all in all, quality is different for different products. it's a core part of any competition to have superior quality to price ratio.
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didn't idra say something about razer being made of cheap stuff or something before?
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Thought I'd sound off, Razer Lachesis Version 1 4,000 DPI mouse going strong for 4+ years now, almost 5! Don't know what I'm gonna do once it breaks down T.T oh ya, use some generic shitty mouse then use my mouse and try to tell me there isn't a difference in how fluid and sensitive it is.
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On February 05 2013 03:50 vividred wrote:
didn't idra say something about razer being made of cheap stuff or something before?
He won't say it again now xD
Btw, I like my blackwidow. Gj Razer, and thx for what you do for e-sport.
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Ive owned 2 razer mice, and both times the left click seems to double or even triple click. anyone else have this problem or am i wearing out the product too quickly? first mouse didnt make it to the 3rd year, and this one will complete its third year near fall, but has been multi left clicking for about a year now. what gives? feedback is appreciated. my next mouse is definately SS, gotta try it out at least once :D
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On February 05 2013 03:50 vividred wrote:
didn't idra say something about razer being made of cheap stuff or something before?
He said that their mice where always to large and he found them difficult to use, but I don't remember him saying they were poorly made.
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Oh the amount of hypocrisy on the commercials is gonna be hilarious XD
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Does this really deserve to be highlighted by TL tho ? I guess with the EG-TL partnership it makes sense...not so sure tho O_O It's the eternal problem with a newsportal also being a pro team
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aww man. I love my SteelSeries 7g.
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On February 05 2013 03:58 Marou wrote:
Does this really deserve to be highlighted by TL tho ? I guess with the EG-TL partnership it makes sense...not so sure tho O_O It's the eternal problem with a newsportal also being a pro team
Razer is one of TL's biggest sponsors 
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On February 05 2013 03:56 Tchado wrote:
Oh the amount of hypocrisy on the commercials is gonna be hilarious XD
Hypocrisy isn't really a word I would use when people are advertising for their paid sponsor. Hypocrisy has more to do with personal beliefs or conduct, rather of product you prefer to use.
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On February 05 2013 03:47 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote:
Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties. it's not the same. different products will have different materials in some cases, and even if you're point was right, they are still build differently. if your point was correct then there wouldn't be that much need for engineers, since all they do is exactly that - ftrying to find the best solution for everyone. and obviously, the standards given are different for different companies, so you have products of varying quality in the end. and to say that those keyboards get build in the same 1-2 factories is just ridiculous. one keyboard-brand will get it's components produced in up to a few dozen of factories. and not every factory will produce for everyone, since every company - again - has different needs and expectacions in what they want and where they want to build there parts. all in all, quality is different for different products. it's a core part of any competition to have superior quality to price ratio.
If you want to believe that, feel free. The qualities are so similar it essentially is the same. People that complain they had X amount of Razer products fail, or X amount of SS, or Logitech, have to realize that they just got unlucky. The opposite is true as well, if you've had a product for way longer than most other people, you probably got lucky on how its holding up.
Also, someone earlier in the thread said logitech is getting away from gaming; this isn't true in the the PC world. They are getting out of console gaming(I believe), but still are going to make computer gaming stuff. Just wanted to clarify, it would be pretty big news if Logitech was leaving the computer peripheral business as they are a big player in it.
I wonder what teams do with old shirts when they change sponsors. I'd imagine they stop ordering them when they know sponsorship's may come to an end, but they must have some old stock. Discounted 2012 EG jersey maybe? 
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always nice to see an up and coming team getting a new sponsor
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On February 05 2013 03:58 Marou wrote:
Does this really deserve to be highlighted by TL tho ? I guess with the EG-TL partnership it makes sense...not so sure tho O_O It's the eternal problem with a newsportal also being a pro team
It's not really a problem at all, since it is highlighted in "Community New". People are pretty aware that TL is also sponsored by Razor too.
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On February 05 2013 03:58 Marou wrote:
Does this really deserve to be highlighted by TL tho ? I guess with the EG-TL partnership it makes sense...not so sure tho O_O It's the eternal problem with a newsportal also being a pro team
It probably makes sense because Razer sponsors TL aswell.
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On February 05 2013 04:01 Sikly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 03:47 Tanzklaue wrote:On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote:
Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties. it's not the same. different products will have different materials in some cases, and even if you're point was right, they are still build differently. if your point was correct then there wouldn't be that much need for engineers, since all they do is exactly that - ftrying to find the best solution for everyone. and obviously, the standards given are different for different companies, so you have products of varying quality in the end. and to say that those keyboards get build in the same 1-2 factories is just ridiculous. one keyboard-brand will get it's components produced in up to a few dozen of factories. and not every factory will produce for everyone, since every company - again - has different needs and expectacions in what they want and where they want to build there parts. all in all, quality is different for different products. it's a core part of any competition to have superior quality to price ratio. If you want to believe that, feel free. The qualities are so similar it essentially is the same. People that complain they had X amount of Razer products fail, or X amount of SS, or Logitech, have to realize that they just got unlucky. The opposite is true as well, if you've had a product for way longer than most other people, you probably got lucky on how its holding up. Also, someone earlier in the thread said logitech is getting away from gaming; this isn't true in the the PC world. They are getting out of console gaming(I believe), but still are going to make computer gaming stuff. Just wanted to clarify, it would be pretty big news if Logitech was leaving the computer peripheral business as they are a big player in it. I wonder what teams do with old shirts when they change sponsors. I'd imagine they stop ordering them when they know sponsorship's may come to an end, but they must have some old stock. Discounted 2012 EG jersey maybe?
Yes but that's what quality control is. If I got "unlucky" 5 out of 5 times I got a product from Razer, it's probably not just bad luck.
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