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On February 05 2013 03:10 StreetWise wrote: Thankfully all of my Razer products have been top notch including my BlackWidow Stealth. I will say that their customer service is absolutely the worst. Good thing their product ended up being good..... The funny thing is I did buy a Razer keyboard simply because they sponsor so many SC2 teams. And low and behold they are sponsoring another team. Go Razer! Interesting about the customer support thing. I sent them an email basically asking them to give me some replacement keys for the keyboard 'cause their paint/plastic were dying as well as a stand 'cause I lost it (somehow) and they sent all that stuff and were like "we looked far and wide to get these to you, enjoy".
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Logitech mouses are the best, sorry Razer :/
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I must say I love my DeathAdder mouse. As for my Razer Black Widow keyboard, its pretty awesome but tends to fall apart... I'm on my 2nd one now
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Well, maybe now EG-TL will get cool matching uniforms now. 
Also, Logitech might be the sponsor that Axiom will announce soon.
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Hopefully not. I prefer sponsers that stick with just 1 team.
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I'm happy for EG but i would prefer some smaller teams getting sponsorship too,EG has already plenty.
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On February 05 2013 03:19 Proseat wrote:Well, maybe now EG-TL will get cool matching uniforms now.  Also, Logitech might be the sponsor that Axiom will announce soon.
How come you think it is going to be Logitech?
ON EG and Razer - very much expected partnership.
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On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote: Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties.
I'm very well aware of that, yet it still stands the reason that my Razer products consistently went tits-up and my SS has yet to have a single issue. I honestly couldn't care less which company I support, I just want gear that works. So far, Razer hasn't provided any that has for my experience.
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Man they are just taking over the pro team market. Not going to make me like Razer products more though.
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Steelseries products are mostly better than razer. My mechanical keyboard 6gv2 with cherry blacks is the best ive ever had. Razer is often too gimmicky with too many buttons or mouse designs witch dont fit in any hand i can imagine.
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On February 05 2013 03:23 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote: Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties. I'm very well aware of that, yet it still stands the reason that my Razer products consistently went tits-up and my SS has yet to have a single issue. I honestly couldn't care less which company I support, I just want gear that works. So far, Razer hasn't provided any that has for my experience.
That sort of evidence is anecdotal, however. I have several Razer products, including a mouse I have used for nearly 3 years without issue. Some of the people may have had bad luck with Razer products, but in general I think every product line has that issue, regardless of who makes it.
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Congrats to EG & Razer. ^_^
Although...I still use the OEM mouse + keyboard that came with my desktop. No issues staying in masters with these generic devices.
High end gear always seemed so extraneous to me. Kind of like Reebok Pumps making you jump higher.
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Welp, was gonna buy the eg qck pad, just gonna buy the dota2 pad now...
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On February 05 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote: Did their headsets ever improve?
Depends on what you're looking for. Reading user reviews for that funky 7.1 headset, the Razer Tiamat, it was apparently REALLY GOOD for gaming - meaning picking up directional cues in an FPS, that kind of thing. On the other hand, like any gaming brand they're not what you want if you're looking for excellent headphones for music. (Though they should be better than cheapo $20 headphones for music.)
P.S. No idea on comfort/build quality.
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On February 05 2013 03:28 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 03:23 Mortal wrote:On February 05 2013 02:19 Sikly wrote:On February 05 2013 02:02 Mortal wrote: Honestly Razer products have been on the decline for a while. They used to be tolerable, but everything I've tried in recent years has been just god awful. Headset, mouse, and keyboard all given a fair shot, and all either break, malfunction catastrophically (so, spectacularly break), or are just garbage in every way.
Had a 6gv2 since they came out, and have had 0 issues. IMO buy a decent mechanical and get some Sennheisers. No need for bad shiny loot. This is funny stuff. You know the Steelseries keyboard and Razer keyboard are probably made in the same 1-2 factories? Same goes for their mice, headsets, mouse mats, and every other brand of of peripheral makers stuff. They all use the same quality plastics. What people perceive as quality is purely that, perception. The quality is all equal. A blackwidow is just as nice of a mechanical keyboard as the 6gv2, if you want blues go razer, if you want blacks go SS. Get the mouse that fits your hand the best. Never buy any gaming headset, go Sennheisers or audio-technica! Sorry about the mini rant, just annoying to see people throw quality around when its all the same. This is a pretty expected move, and a good one for both parties. I'm very well aware of that, yet it still stands the reason that my Razer products consistently went tits-up and my SS has yet to have a single issue. I honestly couldn't care less which company I support, I just want gear that works. So far, Razer hasn't provided any that has for my experience. That sort of evidence is anecdotal, however. I have several Razer products, including a mouse I have used for nearly 3 years without issue. Some of the people may have had bad luck with Razer products, but in general I think every product line has that issue, regardless of who makes it.
True, but anecdotal evidence shouldn't be invalid. It's important to have consistent performance all across the board. While you're right, every company has a slew of issues to deal with that are similar, their handling of the situation and assistance therein left a pretty bad taste in my mouth about the brand. Which is unfortunate because they support a lot of teams I like.
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On February 05 2013 01:17 Dronk wrote: Wow, unexpected, Razer owns everyone!
no so unexpected, they are the biggest western team razer would be crazy to not try and work with them.
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On February 05 2013 03:29 mythandier wrote: I use the OEM mouse + keyboard that came with my desktop. No issues staying in masters with these generic devices.
High end gear always seemed so extraneous to me. Kind of like Reebok Pumps making you jump higher.
This.
Plea to all bronzeleaguers; keyboard and mouse should be the last of your concerns.
To be fair, arnt the 16 year olds ''hardcore MLG 720 noscope'' or ''this keyboard glows and makes clicky sounds SO PRO'' gamers the main customers?
Anyone in the right mind would go Leopold, DAS or Filco. Althou I wouldnt mind sponsorship by Razor
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On February 05 2013 03:29 mythandier wrote: Congrats to EG & Razer. ^_^
Although...I still use the OEM mouse + keyboard that came with my desktop. No issues staying in masters with these generic devices.
High end gear always seemed so extraneous to me. Kind of like Reebok Pumps making you jump higher.
No, they don't make you magically play better. But they just feel very nice. Can't speak for keyboard, as I never bothered to get anything other than dirt cheap there - but moving from el generic mouse to a Mionix Naos 3200 was just very, very nice. It's hard to describe, but there's an ergonomics & smoothness that just isn't in the generic mice. Worth the $50, even though I play at 800 DPI (default DPI of most mice that come with pre-built computers, though some of those are 400dpi too).
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