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It's now official that MTW has closed it's doors.
Source: http://mymtw.de/
Rough translation:
We are sad to announce today that - after 15 successful years - mTw will be closed down for now. The last weeks shows that the business model of eSports clans does not work any more in its current form. Running a sustainable and stable business was no longer possible under these circumstances. That is why we have reached the decision to close the chapter (sic!) mTw for now. If and when the next chapter will be written remains to be seen. As soon as we can guarantee again that a sustainable existence is possible and that we can offer the support to our teams that they deserve, mTw will return. Until then, we wish all the best to our former teams and partners. We want to thank all our fans who have made mortal Teamwork something special over the years.
- translation by @affentod via /r/starcraft
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This is MTW, MYM's page is mymym.com, and we already have multiple threads for that.
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Umm... this is MTW's site, not MYM. Did you look at anything other than the URL?
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I care deeply about making meaningful contributions to this thread!
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On January 27 2013 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Wait, is this MTV or MTW?
definately MTV
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Wait, MVP shut down? 
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On January 27 2013 15:48 Scarlett` wrote:definately MTV
Agreed. MTV shutting down makes more sense.
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So MTV finally shut down? Finally. TV is better without them.
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On January 27 2013 15:52 Integra wrote:
So MTV finally shut down? Finally. TV is better without them.
what? no!
I was looking forward to the day of Real World: Compton
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
This is a valid topic of conversation, just stop screwing it up.
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Although everyone already knew that this was coming it's really sad nevertheless. They have been one of the pillars of German esports for so long and I have some good memories connected with mTw both in Counterstrike and Warcraft3.
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comments have me really confused :S
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Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw.
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On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw.
To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise
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Sad to see them go, only player I really followed was Dimaga
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On January 27 2013 16:49 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise
Surprise or not, looking at the whole picture for mTw's history, I don't really see SC2 being a big deal.. at all.
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Shame. Synderen and Dimaga are teamless now. I don't think this is just SC2 news as MTW has a DotA 2 division.
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Reminiscing about WC3 days.. MTW was one of the top tier clans/teams to be apart of!
good run guys
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This enduring world recession is taking its toll, no one is safe
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Don't worry guys mtw is already back ! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mortal-Team-Work-mTw/198175056912236?fref=ts
On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw.
You're on an sc2 forum. People care about sc2 and nothing else.
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sad day of eSport. The Mortal Teamwork has been around since forever. They will be missed, especially for the legendary CS1.6 squad
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On January 27 2013 17:35 Marti wrote:Don't worry guys mtw is already back ! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mortal-Team-Work-mTw/198175056912236?fref=ts Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. You're on an sc2 forum. People care about sc2 and nothing else.
SC2 forum?
Last I checked, this board was formed for BW, developed into SC2, DotA, etc.
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well its not working for THEM ... i dislike the generalism "it not works anymore" ...
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On January 27 2013 17:37 NrG.Bamboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:35 Marti wrote:Don't worry guys mtw is already back ! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mortal-Team-Work-mTw/198175056912236?fref=ts On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. You're on an sc2 forum. People care about sc2 and nothing else. SC2 forum? Last I checked, this board was formed for BW, developed into SC2, DotA, etc.
jaeh lol xD its a broodwar !! forum moved to sc2 and also have lol and dota2 xD
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bye mTw. Sad they only really saw one success in sc2, but a long career for them anyway.
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Really, really sad 
I remember my active times with counterstrike 1.5, mymTw was THE go-to community for that game. I have o much funny and awesome memories with that clan/community.
Farewell mTw
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Made a slightly more accurate alternative translation:
Unfortunately we have to announce today that for now mTw will close its doors after 15 successful years. In the last couple of weeks it became evident that the business model for eSports clans in its long-standing form did not work anymore. A sustainable and stable operation under these circumstances was no longer possible. That is why we have decided to take this step and end the mTw chapter for now. Whether and when a new chapter will be started, is still undecided. As soon as we will be able to guarantee again that a sustainable existence is possible and we can offer our teams the support they deserve, mTw will make a return. Until then we wish our former teams and partners all the best in their future and say thank you to our fans who over many years made "mortal Teamwork" something special.
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RIP mTw... They were so strong when they picked up NoA.dk in Counter-Strike 1.6
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Rip Mortal Teamwork.
Hazz, Koj, Cracken
The good old 1.5 days or was it 1.3, its so long ago i cant even remember.
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Sad to see mtw used to seeing them appear everywhere.
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Sad day, so many good bw players have played for mtw in the past. They also made significant influnce in other games. They deserve a lot more than this summmary for their years of work.
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On January 27 2013 17:11 NrG.Bamboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:49 GTPGlitch wrote:On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise Surprise or not, looking at the whole picture for mTw's history, I don't really see SC2 being a big deal.. at all.
Kind of like how on this forum, you don't really see CS or WC3 being a big deal.. at all.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
Good bye mtw..
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its not gonna get better it sucks but unless blizzard starts to actually make intelligent decisions then we wont ever see esports in this generation
and blizzard will always be clueless so...
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looks like they ran the team mostly for profit, too bad it didnt work out in the end
gl to dimaga finding a new team
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On January 27 2013 18:31 sunglasseson wrote:
its not gonna get better it sucks but unless blizzard starts to actually make intelligent decisions then we wont ever see esports in this generation
and blizzard will always be clueless so...
How is this Blizzard's fault exactly? stop ranting about esports and only pointing fingers at one company please. LoL is getting bigger and bigger, Dota 2 is pretty big aswell and from what I can see SC2 isnt really doing bad at all
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On January 27 2013 17:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sad to see them go, only player I really followed was Dimaga
not sure if trolling~  but yeah, sad to see such a big and what many might've thought stable organization go.
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On January 27 2013 16:49 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise
They were involved in and have a lot of history in games other than SC2.
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One of the worst days in e-Sports...
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Read this news on hltv.org 18 hours ago - Big name in Counter-Strike community few years ago. Sad to see
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On January 27 2013 17:37 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:37 NrG.Bamboo wrote:On January 27 2013 17:35 Marti wrote:Don't worry guys mtw is already back ! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mortal-Team-Work-mTw/198175056912236?fref=ts On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. You're on an sc2 forum. People care about sc2 and nothing else. SC2 forum? Last I checked, this board was formed for BW, developed into SC2, DotA, etc. jaeh lol xD its a broodwar !! forum moved to sc2 and also have lol and dota2 xD
I assume you just make shit replies to make your post count higher?
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wow first own3d shutting down and now mtw. This isn't a good week for esports.
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sad to see, hope they can make a comeback someday
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They have been around for such a long time :/
Excited to see where Dimaga is going to go.
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Oh well. Not really surprised after seeing Dimaga leave them. Let's hope he gets a spot at a stable team.
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sad day for esports
hoping for a comeback
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mTw been for a long time. Too bad.
I hope this is the last of teams shutting down. I fear IM and Startale from IM's coach's message and players leaving (respectively) have nothing like this coming. TSL also shut down. eSports we need you!
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Katowice25012 Posts
Sucks things had to end this way.
Best of luck to everyone in the future.
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On January 27 2013 16:49 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise
They had one of the most successful Warcraft III teams for a very, very long time. Shame to see a team with such a history shut down.
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its maybe not huge for sc2 fans BUT for german esports because mTw was one of the top 3 clans among SK and mousesports
not only a relevant name in CS but also in WC3 (two times WC3L champion) and FIFA among other games
also myMTW used to be one of the biggest german esports community portals.
so yeah a big piece of esports history is gone, it feels almost like when eSu (esports united) closed back in 2003
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Best of luck to all and everyone that left.
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It's sad to see any part of esports shut down. I didn't know anything about mTw, besides dimaga, but still...This is our <3 that's being closed. Don't people realize this?
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On January 27 2013 18:31 sunglasseson wrote:
its not gonna get better it sucks but unless blizzard starts to actually make intelligent decisions then we wont ever see esports in this generation
and blizzard will always be clueless so...
wtf, how is that Blizzards fault?
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Man this sucks.. mTw has been around a LONG time... there CS and CSS team used to be pretty sick. Gonna miss them hope they come back one day :D
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When will the carnage end...
R.I.P. mTw
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Somehow I always took mTw being there for granted.. wow :/ They were basically the first real "pro" team I had heard of.. loved their CS and UT squads in the early '00's (mTw.horny in UT anyone..?). Sad :/
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Well, can't say it's too surprising after the rumors and when Dimaga left them.
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On January 27 2013 17:11 NrG.Bamboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:49 GTPGlitch wrote:On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. To be fair, they only had two sc players and they let the both go well in advance... not really a surprise Surprise or not, looking at the whole picture for mTw's history, I don't really see SC2 being a big deal.. at all.
yeah their dynasty was pretty much CS.
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sad day
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Feeling kinda sad for Mortal Team Work, one of the first and my favorite organisations since i followed/joined esports. I wish everyone good luck in the future and maybe one day, we will see mTw rise once again.
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What Starcraft players were on MTW? I know Dimaga was on that team, but are there any other well known players?
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The legendary mTw.dk 2008 will always be remembered.
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My does time fly. As an ex war3 player, mTw was definitely one of the biggest names in foreign pro gaming, along with mYm, SK and mouz. Can't believe they are now going to shut down after so many years.
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wow sad day when mTw closes its doors
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It's the death of a old giant in E-Sport
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On January 28 2013 04:13 TheBigO wrote:
What Starcraft players were on MTW? I know Dimaga was on that team, but are there any other well known players?
DeMusliM was on mTw before he joined EG, also Nightend was part of mTw for quite a while and they had Supernova on their roster for some time.
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I hope Dima will find a new team 
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On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw.
Or people just dont care about mTw and are happy they finally closed and wont seen again? Hope the players will find a good home but mTw closing is a good news for me
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Sad to see oldschool clans go away:/
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I am sad that they had to go like this instead of shutting down cleanly...
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On January 28 2013 04:37 tadL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. Or people just dont care about mTw and are happy they finally closed and wont seen again? Hope the players will find a good home but mTw closing is a good news for me
How is a team like mTw closing down a good news to you ? I don't even
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Anyone remembers the names cracken, hazz, koj? Haha, those were the times. Who were the other two members of their oldschool cs team, i can't remember. Really sad to see mTw closing, they were one of the very first Pro Teams i knew of (through an old german tv documentary about LAN's).
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Very sad moment. Huge esports organisation shutting down. Not big SC history, but they where major force in CS among other titles and its scary that such huge orga shut down. RIP mTw. legendary orga.
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D: We knew this was coming, but its still sad. Hopefully AZUBU will be taking their place for German eSports organizations?
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The first time I heard about mTw, is when I first heard about Dimaga around october 2011... Since, he has been the only SC2 member on their team and I've always felt like they were dying slowly but surely. Yes, I know they also have other teams, but their 1-man SC2 team said enough about them not willing to invest more (or maybe they weren't able to) into eSports...
Anyway, there's no real point in what I just said, except that I've been expecting them to shut down soon. And it has happened...
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sucks, but saw it coming.
RIP
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On January 28 2013 04:55 NucNac wrote:
Anyone remembers the names cracken, hazz, koj? Haha, those were the times. Who were the other two members of their oldschool cs team, i can't remember. Really sad to see mTw closing, they were one of the very first Pro Teams i knew of (through an old german tv documentary about LAN's).
giant ash
also madferret but i believe that was later.
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On January 28 2013 04:47 neurosx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 04:37 tadL wrote:On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw. Or people just dont care about mTw and are happy they finally closed and wont seen again? Hope the players will find a good home but mTw closing is a good news for me How is a team like mTw closing down a good news to you ? I don't even
They had A LOT of cheaters in their teams, be it CS:S or whatever. I'm glad MTW shut downs too.
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Soooooooooooooo sad, MTW was such a name in the gaming comunnity, i can remember when i was gaming younger and would alwais see these tags appear in wc3 and bw. They never were my favorites in any game,but i alwais remember them being there.
Does anyone know if this was just clan members that got into esports and started a little buisness or their history????
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Thanks god! I really hated that team....
SC2 - Dimaga - definition of bad player who mass games.
Dota2 - Syndren + some no skillers
Worst players ever!
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Ok lots of teams have been shutting down lately. Blizzard better get their act together because competitive SC2 is going to die if they don't
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Sad to see an eSports giant such as mTw close, I will always remember the days of watching their 1.6 teams and DotA teams crush face T_T
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On January 28 2013 04:24 Dreamer.T wrote:
My does time fly. As an ex war3 player, mTw was definitely one of the biggest names in foreign pro gaming, along with mYm, SK and mouz. Can't believe they are now going to shut down after so many years.
hehe dont forget 4Kings (in WC3)
On January 28 2013 05:30 eSu.Matix wrote:
Thanks god! I really hated that team....
SC2 - Dimaga - definition of bad player who mass games.
Dota2 - Syndren + some no skillers
Worst players ever!
gah, can someone temp ban this guy? why would you insult DIMAGA...
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On January 27 2013 16:45 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Pretty disappointing that nobody seems to care that such a successful team and strong part of esports in general has shut its doors. Oh well, I guess people don't really care about a whole lot anyway.
RIP mTw.
I care. But as stated before, their sc2 division was always fairly small. For the longest time it felt like Dimaga was their only player, and then supernova. sc2 wasn't really a major focus for them it seemed so thats why people aren't too upset or really surprised. Sad to see
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When I first started playing video games around 2001 there we're two big teams in europe, mtw and sk, now sk has one player and one 2d game team and mtw shut down. I see no one replacing them. Bad news.
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They invested basically nothing into SC2. Thus, my level of care is about zero, and I'm not surprised to see their little boat sink for the very same reason. Sticking to shitty casual games and not moving on with the times should be punished. Go SC2 or die.
Other than Dimaga and Supernova, the only cool player they ever had was Wizard anyway . . .
User was temp banned for this post.
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Sad to see them go. They were around when I was playing Tribes competitively ten years ago.
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On January 28 2013 05:30 eSu.Matix wrote:
Thanks god! I really hated that team....
SC2 - Dimaga - definition of bad player who mass games.
Dota2 - Syndren + some no skillers
Worst players ever!
LOL really dude?
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On January 28 2013 06:06 JackReacher wrote:
Sticking to shitty casual games and not moving on with the times should be punished. Go SC2 or die.
This is what's wrong with this community
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damn it, they were my cs heroes (ie after TAMM shut down). They also had many successful squads and players in so many different games. ol'friend of mine went to cpl dallas as part of their ut team back in the early days of the millennium; loved the support for Dimaga as well and now they are gone - after 15 years.What is that feeling? I guess that's how growing old feels...
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Can someone explain to me what he means by:
The last weeks shows that the business model of eSports clans does not work any more in its current form. Running a sustainable and stable business was no longer possible under these circumstances
Current form? As opposed to what? What circumstances?
I'm sorry if I'm being slow here but I'm just curious.
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Wow that was amazing, thx for the clip.
Funny noticed kHRYSTAL in there to, I played with him in BF3. Didnt know he had been so high up in CS 1.6.
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On January 27 2013 18:31 sunglasseson wrote:
its not gonna get better it sucks but unless blizzard starts to actually make intelligent decisions then we wont ever see esports in this generation
and blizzard will always be clueless so...
Eh? Has has mTw failing as a business have anything to do with Blizzard in any way shape or form?
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mTw has been such a big part of european e-sports. Sad to see them go, i still remember watching their RtCW team dominate the scene. And not to forget their warcraft 3 squad, who also got the nickname "manner Tower works" thanks to Tak3r and his prodigies.
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sad news, mTw was amazing. a lot of memories espezialy with wc3
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"The last weeks shows that the business model of eSports clans does not work any more in its current form."
:,(
sad to see them go - also sad that eSports kind of stagnates
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Thats what they get for stealing my money in Wc3
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On January 28 2013 07:00 butchji wrote:
"The last weeks shows that the business model of eSports clans does not work any more in its current form."
:,(
sad to see them go - also sad that eSports kind of stagnates
This is such panicky nonsense.
Compare all of competitive games internationally now to what, 5 years ago. There's more people watching, bigger prizepools and more mainstream sponsors. Everything is better, and mtw can't make it work now while they could 5 years ago? I'd say that's probably more due to mismanagement than overall 'stagnation'.
(Sure, now someone brings up Korea and BW, but that never had any influence on teams outside of korea.)
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A very sad day for esports.
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I heard about this a few days ago through counter strike fourms
Its sad they had to shut down, and the way things are going if teams dont have top of the line teams in star2 and dota.
Then they need at least a good LoL team to survive. League seems to be keeping everything afloat for the time being. So im not surprised that organizations not only players are turning to LoL.
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On January 28 2013 07:48 Burns wrote:
I heard about this a few days ago through counter strike fourms
Its sad they had to shut down, and the way things are going if teams dont have top of the line teams in star2 and dota.
Then they need at least a good LoL team to survive. League seems to be keeping everything afloat for the time being. So im not surprised that organizations not only players are turning to LoL.
I think in general, only about 5-6 teams can consistently survive at top level. Because if you're team #8 , you're very unlikely to ever win anything, so why should sponsors even bother with you, unless you can provide some sort of advertising revenue model aside from being exposed as a tournament winner.
This is why e-sports has to become more watched and accepted at the general public level. Sponsorship for up and coming teams has to come from sources other than advertising and it needs to cover more than just travel to events.
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Sad, I wonder who will pick up Dimaga o_O
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Unfortunate, but unsurprising. Hope Dimaga can find a new team soon.
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mTw was big back when 1.6 was the eSports, other than that they were mediocre in other games.
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...another team bites the dust...
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On January 27 2013 15:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Wait, MVP shut down?
MVP had a problem with his health?
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So sad. Though 3D, WeW, eoL, and later NaVi were my favorite teams/clans back in my CS days, they were always up there for top teams, especially later in the teams career.
GG mTw.
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Norway1530 Posts
Very sad news
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Haven't really heard from them in a long time but this makes me sad :/
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
I'm not super surprised by this. They had dropped their entire sc2 line up, I think Dimaga was the last to go. Obviously that didn't necessarily mean it was dying because they had teams in other games but it didn't bode well.
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A lot of esports teams are built on specific games. It's not like a sport that's going to last for lifetimes like basketball or something. This is one of the reasons I'm fairly negative towards the concept of esports, but I've been pleasantly proven wrong with the way the community has come together over newer games. My statement I feel still stands based on the idea that a specific video game gets old quickly: the idea that we are able to make long lasting teams doesn't really hold any ground, unless those teams are willing to manage multiple games and multiple players at the same time. Sure, we can try and come up with a concept of a career, but the popularity of a game is what determines its fanbase.
SC: BW and CS are godlike gems that were way way way waaaay ahead of their time. It's for this reason you see these insanely strong teams.... because they are built on these great gems that introduced themselves right when the internet exploded. When there's multiple games to be covered, it's far more difficult to manage a single team. Try to imagine a manager and a team who try to manage multiple teams in multiple sports, like owning and managing a football, basketball, and baseball team all at the same time. How do you allocate your resources? Also, those games ALSO have an approximate lifespan (can be argued, but I estimate maybe ~3-7 years?).
SC1 and SC2 are similar enough that those korean BW teams were able to transition themselves into SC2 (but they certainly took some losses... some players didn't like SC2 and what not, so they either just suck or quit). So basically, what happens when LoL gets old? DotA 2? SC2? CS? Where do these players now go to?
The answer is likely that they just stop and then begin their actual lives, for there is hardly anything to be considered a "career" when it comes to esports. Sure, you can be a manager/recruiter/whatever else, but being someone who's at the VERY TOP of MULTIPLE GAMES to be successful as a player?..... doubtful.
I strongly believe esports is more about a person basically fucking around (I understand it's hard work, but I'm sure most can pinpoint what I'm getting at) for a few years, and THEN actually getting on with their life. I don't feel there's a reason for any significant entity to invest a very large amount of money into this type of system due to the incredible turnover and lack of consistency. For this reason, I feel teams like mTw that have survived so long are truly those with ridiculous amounts of passion...... but not money.
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really sad to see a household of esports closing its door.
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I agree with several of your points Gruntt!
But anyway do the MTW guys really told what they mean when saying that nowadays the standard model of esport clans don't work anymore?
Because what changed from 10 years back to now, for esports clans? I see some difference but I don't see the reasons it wouldn't work... - seems today we have not so many games (as it has always been); more globalization of players and tournaments; more prizes and money; the live streaming as a real income source; several big live tournaments while back then there were only just a few (wcg, dreamhack, cal league,.. not as many as today)...
I don't get it. x=
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I dont understand how esports was any more sustainable 15 years ago, if anything I would think its better now. but whatever floats their boat
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Will miss the DotA team a lot, have started to enjoy Synderen's play finally. This may mean that Synderen will cast more (which is good in a way since I enjoy his casting), but I hope he finds a team/reason to keep playing.
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On January 28 2013 10:35 imallinson wrote:
I'm not super surprised by this. They had dropped their entire sc2 line up, I think Dimaga was the last to go. Obviously that didn't necessarily mean it was dying because they had teams in other games but it didn't bode well.
They were dropping their teams in other games, too. Their LoL teams (an NA one and an EU one) were dropped in late August and early September. (The NA one was picked up by another organization.)
I also don't entirely understand what was more sustainable about E-Sports in past years compared to now - maybe there's more competition for sponsors now? Is the higher globalization of tournaments costing team organizations more money in travel expenses? I would have thought that greater visibility for sponsors (thanks to streaming and increasing viewership)
It does surprise me that I still feel like I only see a few teams consistently thank and name their sponsors - seems like this is one of the more effective forms of marketing once a sponsor is in e-sports. I'm a lot more likely to go buy something from Steelseries if one of my favorite players says they like it. (even though I know in my head that they're saying it because of the sponsorship)
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Sad to see them gone. One of the longest standing teams in esports.
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Saw this on Joindota a few hours ago =( sad stuff
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Not surprising, it seems a lot of these older teams have failed to evolve with the scene and without the cs 1.6 money what did mTW really have? They never really built a strong sc2 team, they never promoted their players nor did they invest in either dota 2 or lol.
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Seems these people were from the very first who supported e-sports. It's sad to see them go after that much time. I'm not sure what their problem was given that e-sports is moving forward you'd expect pioneers to fare well.
Edit: Reading above comment gave me an answer :D
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mTw was among the biggest, well known and most successful clans in esports history (mostly because of counter-strike). Without teams like SK Gaming or mTw esports wouldnt have developed into what it is now. I played CS 14 years ago and knew many players from mTw. They always were among the best teams worldwide. It's sad to see that this esports legend has to close its doors
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As I wrote in the initial threat in the dota forums, this is very sad news. One of the last dinosaurs to go extinct.
Reading this threat actually made me kind of sick with the TL community for the first time in months. The amount of disrespect thrown at an organization that lived and pushed esports for 15 years leaves a foul taste in my mouth. However much you liked their players or teams, at least recognize that here are people that pioneered this industry since you were probably in kindergarden, if even born. Everything we have today is built on shoulders like theirs.
So R.I.P. mortal Teamwork! You'll be remembered.
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Finally the moment is here. Really sad to hear this Rip mTw ad I hope you will be back again to business one day!
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Sad day. mTw was one of the last real old school clans, comming from the age of Quake and Counter-Strike 1.x
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So few words a team such mtw, which formed the esport for 15 years in every competitive game.
But if EG buys the next player to ruin you have to read 30 pages of bullshit.
sad story
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Sad to see them stop. I would really like it if teams found it easier to keep going. They provide me with so much entertainment + joy and it seems they cant survive .
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Ill miss there old CS teams. GG mTw
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Sad to see once great organizations (tough allmost only based on CS 1.6) die out like this.
Then again failing to put up SC2-roster / LoL / Dota2 is pretty bad.
With name like mTw I just can't see how they managed to fckd it up so badly.
I guess its just the players nowadays expecting to get paid monthly that is killing these older organizations that just don't have the money to support a whole team of players.
I dunno, im just speculating...
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15 years of service... Its truly a sad day.
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Sad to see another legendary clan go :/
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Requiescat in pace (R.I.P.) mTw. It is always painful to read of a team's disassociation with Starcraft. Should we be in awe of Destiny's prescience, or will the current tides change with time?
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WTF MVP MTW MYM shut down?
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On January 28 2013 08:27 kYem wrote:
mTw was big back when 1.6 was the eSports, other than that they were mediocre in other games.
like in fifa, ut and wc3 ...lol
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On January 28 2013 16:50 stfouri wrote:
Sad to see once great organizations (tough allmost only based on CS 1.6) die out like this.
Then again failing to put up SC2-roster / LoL / Dota2 is pretty bad.
With name like mTw I just can't see how they managed to fckd it up so badly.
I guess its just the players nowadays expecting to get paid monthly that is killing these older organizations that just don't have the money to support a whole team of players.
I dunno, im just speculating...
The problem is that Esports organizations need to be constantly adapting as old games give way to new games. Sure, you are/were a powerhouse in CS1.6 but SC2/LoL/DotA2 are the big games now and those players you are paying can't transition to a new game. Traditional sports teams don't have to worry about finding entirely new teams in games they may not fully understand yet. We are already seeing many SC2 teams being killed off as interest shifts more towards LoL/DotA whereas 2 years ago SC2 was spearheading the Esports scene. mTw was one of the teams that never fully got into SC2 with a miniscule roster and next to no exposure and I'm assuming that their prior status and longevity of the brand kept them afloat much longer than they should have.
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R.I.P. mTw.
- What a shame
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Sad, stil remember there good cs clan back in the days.
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I remember mTw being around as long as eSports. Particularly, I remember their WC3 teams being top notch. They were well-respected along with teams like SK, and it's sad to see them go. But 15 years is a pretty good run! So instead of being sad, I'll say "congratulations!" for 15 years of eSports, mTw!
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Dominican Republic275 Posts
Didnt their general manager left some time ago for Roccat or something? Difficult to know if there was real lack of money or lack of management. In any case its quite sad
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Sad day. I remember being a fan of mTw all the way back in WC3. =[
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On a serious note, this is a sad day. MTW was a great team in the Esports scene.
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On January 27 2013 15:52 Integra wrote:
So MTV finally shut down? Finally. TV is better without them.
^thank you, this was great really great indeed
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Sad to see them go, but I really don't buy their reasoning.
As people have pointed out basically everything about eSports is better now than it was a few years ago, or even when mTw was at it's prime.
They barely invested in SC2 and they called it quits early on their LoL teams. If you fail to invest properly in two of the largest eSports what do you think is going to happen? As a former WC3 player I'm really sad to see them go because as a team they have a great history and have accomplished so much, but the failing here isn't in the sustainability of eSports or anything else, it's poor management somewhere.
Or rather it's a combination of them not investing enough in the popular eSports and also there is more competition now than there was back in mTw's prime, so mTw would have to really work at maintaining their reputation.
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As one who was introduced to esports by watching CS, it's a sad news.
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yeah sad to see em go
they have been around in so many games forever.
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Damn shame. MTW has been around for such a long time so I'm sad to see them go.
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thats a shame seems like were losing teams " WE NEED MORE FAN REINFORCEMENTS"
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best of luck to synderen and dutch_freak :'(
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The only player I know from mtw is dimaga.
Maybe the disbanded beause stephano left? (not really)
Edit: Wait he was on mill. Derp.
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On January 29 2013 02:46 nojok wrote:
As one who was introduced to esports by watching CS, it's a sad news.
same here
farewell mtw, untill we meet again;/
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Oh dang... sad to see this! I hope you guys can come back soon!
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I'm sad, please come back with an awesome line-up.
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Became an fan of esports watching WC3L replays. Really sad to see mtw go under. Sadder to see the state of half the posts in this thread.
gg mtw.
re?
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United States10774 Posts
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Rip Mortal Teamwork
There goes one of the big three
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EPT
