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On January 23 2013 04:21 prOphet910 wrote:
People relax. The no open bracket for now is a good idea because most pros have barely even played hots. Some exp. Am who has played beta since release could slam everybody just cause he knows what builds work and what not. Its not how you want to start the new scene of an expansion.
Oh, ok. I thought the purpose of a tournament was to see who the best player was. My mistake.
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As long as MLG can cut some deals with the big-name teams and players to ensure that they are present, this probably lets MLG cut down a lot of costs (lots of computers, player space, etc) without affecting the bottom-line.
Kind of sucks for any up-and-coming NA players though, there are very few offline events for them as it is (and without playhem, not much online either). I'm also going to miss the old-school LAN atmosphere at the events.
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Everyone loves the open bracket, so I'm assuming that won't be what's removed. Remember, part of what makes the open bracket so neat is seeing games with players you don't see every day - especially foreigners.
What if it's an open groups stage? An MLG adaptation of the GSL up/downs. That way they could broadcast more games with lesser known players, and look epic doing it.
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On January 23 2013 04:19 havox_ wrote:
the open brackets are 98% boring.
they replace it by something.
they didnt even say by what they replace it.
-> ppl are already whining that its a bad idea. wtf?
The open brackets are never given attention by the tournament hosts, but it's usually where the amazing stories come from, like up-and-coming players taking out well established players.
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On January 23 2013 04:24 wrathofconn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 04:21 prOphet910 wrote:
People relax. The no open bracket for now is a good idea because most pros have barely even played hots. Some exp. Am who has played beta since release could slam everybody just cause he knows what builds work and what not. Its not how you want to start the new scene of an expansion. Oh, ok. I thought the purpose of a tournament was to see who the best player was. My mistake.
No no, it's to suck off established pros as much as possible.
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Not having an open bracket sucks but what would suck even more is completely closed qualifiers (invite based on last year's seeding). There's also the option of them just inviting whoever they want for the first even and returning to open bracket afterwards.
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On January 23 2013 04:21 prOphet910 wrote:
People relax. The no open bracket for now is a good idea because most pros have barely even played hots. Some exp. Am who has played beta since release could slam everybody just cause he knows what builds work and what not. Its not how you want to start the new scene of an expansion.
You don't want to see someone who knows "what builds work and what not" ? I'd rather see new faces performing well because they work their ass off rather than some travesty tournament with players fooling around.
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On January 23 2013 04:19 havox_ wrote:
the open brackets are 98% boring.
they replace it by something.
they didnt even say by what they replace it.
-> ppl are already whining that its a bad idea. wtf?
We just have in bad memory times when players like Incontrol kept getting invited on merrit of their name, while legitimate progamers didn't even have a chance of the spotlight, because nobody knew about them.
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I am assuming this will detract from the endurance runs we have seen in the past from some pros. We'll just have to wait and see what they have cooking at MLG.
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they better have online qualifiers then or some kind of arena (without invites) pre-Dallas
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Leave it to Team Liquid to already hate an idea that isn't announced yet.
Seriously guys, no one cared about the open brackets. Who knows, maybe this new thing will enable new players to rise up to the top faster. You people are so damn negative, it's crazy.
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I'm oddly curious!! I'm always excited to see what new things come into this business. However, will there be a way for "up and coming" competitors who are not selected for pool play to enter into large tournaments and make a name for themselves?
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On January 23 2013 04:24 wrathofconn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 04:21 prOphet910 wrote:
People relax. The no open bracket for now is a good idea because most pros have barely even played hots. Some exp. Am who has played beta since release could slam everybody just cause he knows what builds work and what not. Its not how you want to start the new scene of an expansion. Oh, ok. I thought the purpose of a tournament was to see who the best player was. My mistake.
You just blew my mind. Imagine watching White-Ra and TT1 come out and smash everyone, /tear
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I hope it's not a permanent thing
In the last 2 MLG:
Leenock, coming from open bracket, won MLG Summer
Rain/Heart, coming from the open bracket, goes top6
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On January 23 2013 04:24 wrathofconn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 04:21 prOphet910 wrote:
People relax. The no open bracket for now is a good idea because most pros have barely even played hots. Some exp. Am who has played beta since release could slam everybody just cause he knows what builds work and what not. Its not how you want to start the new scene of an expansion. Oh, ok. I thought the purpose of a tournament was to see who the best player was. My mistake.
I really wanted to do a: "Oh I am sorry, I thought this was America" joke, but I stopped myself.
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Before everyone starts screaming that the sky is falling, he only mentions Dallas here. Sundance has not, to my knowledge, said that there won't be open brackets after Dallas. It sounds to me like Dallas is going to be a smaller one off event to kick off Heart of the Swarm since it comes out just a few days before the event.
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No open qualifier would suck if they did not plan anything new to compensate.
But they did, so why the hell complain now ? Wait just to see what it is, and if it's bad or simply worse than open bracket then I'm all for QQing with you guys !
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I also hope for an online regional qualifier.
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I hope it's not a permanent thing. I am also waiting to hear what their "new" thing is.
However I am extremely worried for the new blood in starcraft 2. I can't even figure out exactly how an amateur would go about getting in the pro scene at the moment, other than MAYBE doing daily tournaments (or joining a popular clan and doing well in clan battles in hots) and hoping that a team picks them up, and then MAYBE that that team sends them to an event.
To me that sounds like "ways to suffocate your scene for dummies", and an all around terrible way to get up to being a progamer.
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Open brackets are a huge draw for a lot of my friends who just like to compete. Sure, they go down in 4 games, but sometimes they go further and it's a hoot. It's part of the reason I support MLG when I can. I don't care too much for the underdog story, but love the idea that pros are "forced" to mingle with us lowly scrubs.
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