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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
January 21 2013 15:19 GMT
#41
On January 21 2013 13:51 Goldfish wrote:

So overall, I feel that one of the more understated (and the most important IMO) reasons that BW is better than SC2 is the fact that in BW, things were slower and more gradual, battles were all over the place, and the game was less random and chaotic.


This is exactly how i feel about SC2, long games without almost no action ending in a few seconds due to one or two mistakes, is really, really boring to watch and the biggest issue in SC2. Regardless of everything else they want to do with SC2, at least these aspects of BW should be on SC2.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
January 21 2013 15:28 GMT
#42
makes my fanboy heart beat so fast
Everyday Girl's Day~!
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
January 21 2013 16:01 GMT
#43
JANGBI <3<3<3<3<3
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 21 2013 16:17 GMT
#44
On January 21 2013 16:05 Thinasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 14:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:05 Goldfish wrote:
On January 21 2013 12:49 starfinder wrote:
Broodwar was a good game. kespa and hundreds progamers made it Great .

SC2 is a not-bad game now,but needs someone to improve it for complete. really hope BLZ and Kespa work together,make SC2 into Great too.


Yeah .

Also did I see DTs morph into Dark Archon > cancel > shift move to get past the blocking unit at around 3:05 minute mark of that video?

(You can't cancel an archon while it's morphing but you can cancel or "stop" "just" before they actually morph. Before a patch fixed it, you could actually float high templar and dark templar across any terrain by doing that actually. There was a UMS fun map that required the use of several BW glitches to complete.)

Epic stuff!

Too bad Blizzard is only taking small steps forward in regards to HotS.

So many things can be improved IMO. It's not just a BW is better but (IMO) WC3 (besides balance) is better too (though BW and SC2's faster pace of gameplay and 3 distinct races holds more viewers and players).

Edit - One of the main problems is the deathball syndrome and the fact that game encourages the use of the deathball (for example, if you split your units to attack two places at once, that's a high risk and low reward, not encouraged at all in SC2 because if you get attacked by your opponent's death ball, while your own is split into 2 smaller groups, then you lose).

Wasn't a problem in BW or WC3, you were actually encouraged to split up your units and the battles looked good from spectator point of view too. Watching that BW montage video, the game looks a lot nicer than SC2 in terms of gameplay (how the units are spread out and the wave of science vessels and air units and everything in general... epic game).

Edit 2 - At 4:15, the Arbiter dodges 2 EMPs and then manages to stasis two science vessels.

Damn... Brood War is so good! (It's almost impossible to dodge EMPs or a lot of stuff in general in SC2.) I never seen that montage video before but that's a good display of why BW is better than SC2. I want SC2 to succeed but they're taking too small steps in making the game better (in terms of design I mean).

(Also, cool stuff can happen in SC2 too but in BW, it's much less "luck based" and more skill and player factored. In SC2, everything is clumped up and everything happens much faster than in BW. It's much more chaotic and random and while there are times when epic stuff happens, it's really rare and most cases, it's players being caught in bad position or something.)

I think you are neglecting a lot of awesome things about SC2. First and foremost the graphics improvement is huge whether or not you care about it. It is a HUGE improvement as a spectator sport and the animations and graphics are beautiful in SC2. Secondly people only seem to focus on the boring new units that were introduced in SC2 (Colossus, Marauder, Roach) and ignore the AWESOME units they introduced. Banelings are a fantastic unit that completely fits the definition of a "zergy" unit.
Not only do they cause excitement and anticipation but they encourage heavy use of micro. Stalkers not only look sick but their speed, projectile and blink ability promote great use of micro and positioning. Lastly hellions are simply a much cooler replacement for vultures and just as deadly. Little is more exciting then watching hellions sneaking past defences and being on the edge of your seat guessing how many workers they will burn! Other great additions such as creep spreading (promotes fighting for map control), nydus and burrow movement all are welcome and exciting changes. I could go on but the point is that the new stuff SC2 brought in isn't all worse then BW. People just focus on the stuff that is because of their nostalgia towards BW. SC2 may not be as great a game as BW but it is still a beautiful game despite its problems.



If you actually think Hellions are as deadly or as cool as Vultures you clearly never watched a game of BW or played it,


watched both and played both. Hellion has some aspects of them that are more deadly and fun than Vulture. The same go for vulture. I just think vulture contribute to overall mech play better than hellion.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
January 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#45
welcome to my FPL jangbi :D
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 19:24:39
January 21 2013 19:24 GMT
#46
On January 21 2013 09:25 casualman wrote:
Jangbi looks sick with that band-aid and those red eyes.

Yeah, it does look a bit creepy. But I think it's the camera that the dailyesports photographer uses. When you check other recent pictures on their website, you'll see that almost everyone there has these semi bloodshot eyes.

"After seeing this interview, I am sure that there won't be another player out there that will try to do a hidden build strategy against me (laughs)."

We shall see, good JangBi, we shall see...
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#47
Glad to see that Jangbi found his passion for SC2
However, it is worrisome how he dodged the question regarding the Code A qualifier, I hope this doesn't mean that he isn't even trying to qualify.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 21 2013 21:19 GMT
#48
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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 05:26:19
January 22 2013 05:25 GMT
#49
On January 21 2013 14:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
I think you are neglecting a lot of awesome things about SC2. First and foremost the graphics improvement is huge whether or not you care about it. It is a HUGE improvement as a spectator sport and the animations and graphics are beautiful in SC2.

[image loading]

Way too many battles turn into clusterfucks where you can't see anything but a giant blob of units shooting at each other. Units looking better individually doesn't matter at all when you can't make anything out.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 05:48:19
January 22 2013 05:43 GMT
#50
^About the whole vulture/hellion debate. I've used them both and I have to say vultures feel much more useful overall. Maybe I'm biased toward BW lol but I feel the delay in hellion first unlike the moving shot from the vulture makes for more boring micro because you have to "wait" for it to hit unlike the vulture. My opinion at least

On January 21 2013 09:29 starfinder wrote:
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On January 21 2013 09:17 Goldfish wrote:
If there was ever a time in the beginning where I was feeling forced to practice, then right now I feel the complete opposite. Since I am putting in the effort to work hard, I am having fun and I think I'm making good results.


Oh noes! Flash practicing 50-70 games per day? Worse! JangBi is having fun playing SC2!

I am disappointed Flash lost though (even though I did want Khan to win) but since it's JangBi, it's not too bad.

The rule is that Flash, Jaedong, JangBi, Fantasy, can lose to each other but not to anyone else. Hopefully they'll follow that rule.



hope bisu appears in <> one day.
many players in this highlights still playing in sc2




Thank you for this video, lots of amazing games in there!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 22 2013 06:13 GMT
#51
My goodness his eyes are bloodshot o.o
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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