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EG.IdrA + RotterdaM at CES 2013 next week! - Page 7

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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 15:35:09
January 05 2013 15:30 GMT
#121
Hope they air this at a time i can watch, would love to see how gm plays against lower players.
Asuming a normal game i have no change, as terran i would try 1 or 2 base with bunkers tanks and vikings turrets and just let him try break it,you can get to 200-200 or verry close on 1 base as terran and you realy only need 1 tank attack upgrade.
I dont see how he can go up the ramp if its blocked by a pf, coverd by 10 tanks. vikings+turrets+one thor, maybe 1 raven or 2 for pdd should be able to kill all air.
Eventually he will break but i hope it will take him to long.

This or maybe the mass rax 1 base marine followed by a turtle.

Hope they do something against lifting buildings, or people playing till the last building killed in a completely lost position.
Maybe players will have the respect to not try such things.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
January 05 2013 15:36 GMT
#122
They will go bankrupt.
OrD_SC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States247 Posts
January 08 2013 23:48 GMT
#123
So random, I'm in Vegas and just got handed a brochure for CES - how did I not know?!?
Baldie disapproved of my last status, TT
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
January 09 2013 00:02 GMT
#124
I don't think IdrA will survive 20 mins against players with no self respect-race.
Blue_Hinds
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark24 Posts
January 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#125
Who says he will only be playing Zerg? Maybe he will play random?
If I was a girl, id get pregnant alot! - Richard Hammond
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 00:18:57
January 09 2013 00:17 GMT
#126
On January 05 2013 17:00 phantomfive wrote:
To all those people who think they can survive playing at a gold league level, you really need to rethink this. What exactly are you going to do? At any point in the game, your army is guaranteed to be smaller than his unless you are high masters. Here is how your plan will fail with each race:


Zerg - Idra is much better at scouting than you are. You will not be able to hide anything from him. So what are you going to do? Wall in with spine crawlers? He'll see that and hit you with mutalisks. Whatever army composition you choose, he'll see it and choose the best counter. And even if you somehow get lucky and manage to trick him, his micro is so much better than yours that he'll still win.


Protoss - How good is your FFE? Will you be even be able to stop his first few zerglings from killing you? If you are even ten seconds late on your cannon, you might lose right away. If you try an immortal/sentry turtle, he can destroy you with mutalisks. As soon as you move out of your base, there will be zerglings inside tearing it down. If you try to hold with only two bases, remember he'll have four by the 11 minute mark.


Terran - as soon as he sees you're turtling, he'll see what you're doing and drone up. He'll see he can build the infestation pit at 8 minutes, which means hive will be done around 10 minutes, and greater spire around 11:45. You're going to have 3000 minerals worth of brood lords in your base by 13 minutes. How will you handle that? That's assuming he doesn't completely destroy you with a mutalisk harassment at the 8 minute mark. He will destroy every slightly misplaced building, he will pick off your SCVs, and as soon as your thors get out of position he will destroy them too.


If anyone were around here to bet with my, I'd bet $20 that no one will last who is less than grandmaster. Also, if you try some stupid cheese, he will scout it and beat it. Unless your name is Gaulzi, you're not going to beat Idra with a cannon rush, he expects it.


You make a fair point. 20 minutes is a LOT longer than one might think. Basically, 20 minutes in the game you're probably in the ultra-lategame phase as zerg, especially if the enemy is turtling. You've usually already got your hive tech and now it's just time to build your jesus army along with maybe a spine/spore wall.
This is by no means a simple challenge. I think it might actually be harder to survive 20 minutes than it would be to beat him, if only because people are probably going to go about it the wrong way initially.
No way anyone below mid/high master is going to even have a chance.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 09 2013 00:21 GMT
#127
what if i contain idra to one or two base, dont let him expand, starve him, dont attack...and he gg in 15 minutes.

do i still win prize?
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WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
January 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#128
On January 09 2013 09:02 Ethi wrote:
I don't think IdrA will survive 20 mins against players with no self respect-race.

Just kill your own CC and you win.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
January 09 2013 00:31 GMT
#129
lol i'd just play standard and beat him
Lokerek
Profile Joined December 2011
United States441 Posts
January 09 2013 00:50 GMT
#130
On January 09 2013 09:21 jinorazi wrote:
what if i contain idra to one or two base, dont let him expand, starve him, dont attack...and he gg in 15 minutes.

do i still win prize?


Fair Question.
Might as well 6 pool him and kill all drones and leave hatchery alive for 20 minutes
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
January 09 2013 00:56 GMT
#131
On January 09 2013 09:50 Lokerek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 09:21 jinorazi wrote:
what if i contain idra to one or two base, dont let him expand, starve him, dont attack...and he gg in 15 minutes.

do i still win prize?


Fair Question.
Might as well 6 pool him and kill all drones and leave hatchery alive for 20 minutes


you really think you could kill all IdrA's drones with a 6 pool? lol
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
liquidoa
Profile Joined December 2010
82 Posts
January 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#132
When and where can I watch this?

Or is it not streamed?
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 10 2013 00:15 GMT
#133
will some have the balls to CC first like a boss ?
RIP MKP
SoBeDragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States192 Posts
January 10 2013 00:19 GMT
#134
I live here and can't get a pass to CES =(
If at first you don't succeed, redefine the parameters for success.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
January 10 2013 00:20 GMT
#135
I just had to laugh a little here O_O
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S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
January 10 2013 00:22 GMT
#136
On January 05 2013 13:07 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 08:22 Zennith wrote:
All you kids thinking you could last 20 minutes are kidding yourselves. Unless you're top masters/GM, you almost certainly won't make it.


The problem is Zerg can't just roll over someone who is turtling no matter how far ahead they get, they need to wait for a giant T3 death army. If you just ringed your main with static defense you would last 20 against anyone who plays Z

Any good Zerg who sees what you're doing will just get as many bases and gases ASAP and would probably have maxed out Broodlords on your base by minute 13....
Mystgun
Profile Joined September 2010
Hong Kong311 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 18:48:40
January 10 2013 18:46 GMT
#137
I got to play against IdrA on Tuesday. Such an honor to be able to play him!

First and foremost, you are playing in real minutes, not game minutes. If you beat him you will also win, but with an unfamiliar setup, pressure from playing in front of an audience, and his starpower, that's probably not going to happen. He will let you decide his race and he definitely doesn't play balls-to-the-wall SC2. He is nice enough to play pretty passively for the first 10 minutes before taking things up a notch at the halfway mark. I saw a timesheet that an attendee was holding and most people die off about 11-13 minutes. He does gradually increase his level of aggression but I think he also wants to give the challenger a decent chance of survival. I was personally too starstruck to even play properly but I did have a pretty good time. Thanks IdrA!

Also great to meet RotterdaM, who was somehow able to cast the game and have multiple side conversations at the same time...
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 10 2013 19:01 GMT
#138
On January 11 2013 03:46 Mystgun wrote:
I got to play against IdrA on Tuesday. Such an honor to be able to play him!

First and foremost, you are playing in real minutes, not game minutes. If you beat him you will also win, but with an unfamiliar setup, pressure from playing in front of an audience, and his starpower, that's probably not going to happen. He will let you decide his race and he definitely doesn't play balls-to-the-wall SC2. He is nice enough to play pretty passively for the first 10 minutes before taking things up a notch at the halfway mark. I saw a timesheet that an attendee was holding and most people die off about 11-13 minutes. He does gradually increase his level of aggression but I think he also wants to give the challenger a decent chance of survival. I was personally too starstruck to even play properly but I did have a pretty good time. Thanks IdrA!

Also great to meet RotterdaM, who was somehow able to cast the game and have multiple side conversations at the same time...

Haha, sounds like a good time
Refer to my post.
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
January 18 2013 03:55 GMT
#139
Does anyone have replays from this?
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 18 2013 06:01 GMT
#140
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